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Re: Giannis Antetokounmpo reportedly wants to stay in East
« Reply #75 on: Today at 01:53:36 PM »

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I have been listening to all the Giannis/Brown chatter and I really don't think anyone out there has any idea of what is really going on or who is in the driver's seat or whatever.

What I think is interesting from a BOS perspective, is that they can play either side of a 3-way trade.  If there is a team that is interested in Brown and willing to offer a package of X, Y, and Z, BOS could potentially just take X, Y, and Z instead of Giannis.  A scenario I have in my mind is that there is at least one 3-way deal on the table but MIL is saying "OK, we will take X, Y, and Z but we also want BOS to add A and B".

This way, BOS can say to MIL, fine, have a nice season with Herro because we are just going to take the X, Y, Z  deal over adding in A and B to get Giannis.  Maybe BOS is offering Brown + C but MIL is trying to drive them up.

That is an interesting take. The baseline here is the Miami deal. So if we think that Jaylen is better than all the pieces being included in the Miami deal, then what you are saying makes total sense. It would require Giannis to add additional 'acceptable' teams to his list for the Celtics to not be in control.

I could see pick #27 from this draft being included just to top it off, but you're right that Boston might not have any incentive to add more. And if the players/picks from other teams are actually legitimately desirable, we could do more than threaten to take that offer

Re: Giannis Antetokounmpo reportedly wants to stay in East
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Windhorst is saying his focus is Miami and they are the frontrunners going into this week. Feels odd there's mixed reporting from even the reputable reporters around the league (Stein, Windhorst, Fischer, Amick, etc.). Would love to hear from Himmelsbach or some reliable Celtics reporters soon.

It seems Windhorst is kind of playing both sides right now. He also had this to say:

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Boston is also out there because Giannis from what I am told is willing to extend his contract in Boston. I think the Celtics are gonna be very, very cautious with making any firm offer and I would be very careful before saying anything has truly been offered

It honestly sounds to me like Boston is very much in this thing, but they absolutely do not want Jaylen's name leaked in case things going sideways. Either way, happy to see several reports that Giannis is in fact willing to extend in Boston. That means he likes us and there have at least been some actual talks.

Kinda wish Brad or Himmelsbach or someone would just come out and squash this stuff but it's making me think there's real smoke. The Durant stuff to me in 2022, while I'm not saying was entirely made up didn't feel as "smokey" either. It still didn't feel as likely at the time as this one. And the local reporters + team came out just days later to say Jaylen was their guy and basically that the Durant stuff was not true.

We got it, kind of?

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?I don?t think he?s gonna be a Celtic, and that?s just from what I?m hearing. I think the Celtics are gauging what it would take to get Giannis to Boston and figuring out whether they want to move Jaylen Brown.?

Not Himmelsbach but Washburn is also good and respected. It's his prediction but tbh he didn't outright deny it either and basically said they are exploring Jaylen trades
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Re: Giannis Antetokounmpo reportedly wants to stay in East
« Reply #77 on: Today at 02:48:50 PM »

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I am not sure I get how POR can provide the pieces that MIL would want.  I understand that POR has picks to offer, but what I am seeing is not until 2028.  They don't have a pick in 2026 and I am unclear on their pick in 2027 (it is not coming up on Spotrac Trade Machine).  But maybe POR could offer their 2027 pick plus the 2028 and 2029 MIL picks back to them.  If BOS were to throw in their 2026 pick, that is a nice package of picks.

For the players though, I guess POR could trade Sharpe since they are getting Brown.  Plus dump Grant (which works).  For POR, I see this as one pick so MIL will take on Grant, and then Sharpe and (2) picks for Brown.  It feels like an awkward trade for POR. Seems to work OK for BOS and MIL.  BOS could throw in Hauser and take back Portis also as a variation or this could be an entirely separate deal.

Portland can trade its 2027 pick once the 2026 draft happens, since they do not have a pick this year.  Portland also controls three straight Milwaukee picks from 2028-2030.  If Milwaukee trades Giannis, regaining control of its 1sts for that period is highly valuable.  They also have an Orlando pick in 2028 and our pick in 2029.

Thanks for clarifying on that pick, that make sense.  With POR though, are they a rebuilding team or a win now team?  Trading young players and picks for Brown is what a win now team does, but then they also need to give up a useful vet in Grant.  It seems their future is Advija and Clingan, not really the same time frame as Brown.  And they still have older vets like Holiday and Lillard.

Do they think they can win now with Brown, Holiday, and Lillard (I don't think they can).  And why trade away picks that might yield good cheap young players to put around Advija and Clingan down the road (the OKC and SAS model)?  That is way I say this seems like an awkward trade for POR.

Re: Giannis Antetokounmpo reportedly wants to stay in East
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🚨BREAKING: The Boston Celtics have agreed to acquire two-time MVP Giannis Antetokounmpo from the Milwaukee Bucks as part of a three-team blockbuster trade that sends Jaylen Brown to the Portland Trail Blazers, per sources.

This does not seem real but is being reported as "have agreed".  Not seeing any other reports of this.

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