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Re: Giannis Antetokounmpo reportedly wants to stay in East
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I found this paragraph from the ESPN article below interesting. According to Charania, we actually did pursue Giannis at the deadline. The article also very clearly states that the Bucks intend on moving him this offseason:

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The NBA playoffs represent another landmark point for the Antetokounmpo sweepstakes. Sources said postseason teams such as the Minnesota Timberwolves, Cleveland Cavaliers, Boston Celtics, Knicks and Los Angeles Lakers pursued Antetokounmpo at the February deadline, and their finishes to the campaign will play a major factor in their aggressiveness to trade for him.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/48741814/sources-bucks-seeking-trade-offers-giannis-antetokounmpo

Pls not the Lakers...don't want to envision a Big 3 of Luka Doncic, Giannis, and LeBron

Any of these teams will need to send back $58M I believe, or something close to that.  I don't know how the Lakers could do that and keep LeBron and Luka.  I don't think you need to worry about LAL getting Giannis.  NYK would have a tough time also unless MIL is interested in Towns.  I don't see what MIN could offer either.

If MIL actually ends up trading Giannis, BOS would be in a very good spot.
Reaves sign and trade gets a lot of the way there. 
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Re: Giannis Antetokounmpo reportedly wants to stay in East
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I found this paragraph from the ESPN article below interesting. According to Charania, we actually did pursue Giannis at the deadline. The article also very clearly states that the Bucks intend on moving him this offseason:

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The NBA playoffs represent another landmark point for the Antetokounmpo sweepstakes. Sources said postseason teams such as the Minnesota Timberwolves, Cleveland Cavaliers, Boston Celtics, Knicks and Los Angeles Lakers pursued Antetokounmpo at the February deadline, and their finishes to the campaign will play a major factor in their aggressiveness to trade for him.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/48741814/sources-bucks-seeking-trade-offers-giannis-antetokounmpo

Pls not the Lakers...don't want to envision a Big 3 of Luka Doncic, Giannis, and LeBron

Any of these teams will need to send back $58M I believe, or something close to that.  I don't know how the Lakers could do that and keep LeBron and Luka.  I don't think you need to worry about LAL getting Giannis.  NYK would have a tough time also unless MIL is interested in Towns.  I don't see what MIN could offer either.

If MIL actually ends up trading Giannis, BOS would be in a very good spot.
Reaves sign and trade gets a lot of the way there.

A S&T hardcaps them at the first apron, right?


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Re: Giannis Antetokounmpo reportedly wants to stay in East
« Reply #17 on: Today at 04:12:20 PM »

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I found this paragraph from the ESPN article below interesting. According to Charania, we actually did pursue Giannis at the deadline. The article also very clearly states that the Bucks intend on moving him this offseason:

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The NBA playoffs represent another landmark point for the Antetokounmpo sweepstakes. Sources said postseason teams such as the Minnesota Timberwolves, Cleveland Cavaliers, Boston Celtics, Knicks and Los Angeles Lakers pursued Antetokounmpo at the February deadline, and their finishes to the campaign will play a major factor in their aggressiveness to trade for him.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/48741814/sources-bucks-seeking-trade-offers-giannis-antetokounmpo

Pls not the Lakers...don't want to envision a Big 3 of Luka Doncic, Giannis, and LeBron

Any of these teams will need to send back $58M I believe, or something close to that.  I don't know how the Lakers could do that and keep LeBron and Luka.  I don't think you need to worry about LAL getting Giannis.  NYK would have a tough time also unless MIL is interested in Towns.  I don't see what MIN could offer either.

If MIL actually ends up trading Giannis, BOS would be in a very good spot.
Reaves sign and trade gets a lot of the way there.

A S&T hardcaps them at the first apron, right?

Yes, if LAL signed Reaves and then traded him to MIL in a sign and trade, that would hard cap MIL at the first apron for the rest of the 2026-27 season.  No sure if MIL plans to live over the first apron.   But I am not so sure that Reaves contract is going to be in Giannis territory.  MIL has the Lillard dead cap money plus they have to sign their draft pick, but they have some room under the 1st apron to work with based on what I see on Spotrac.

Reaves turned down a 4 year contract starting around $20M, right?  I think he will be lucky to get $30M starting.  LAL could pay him more if they wanted to, I guess, but would MIL really want to start their rebuild by overpaying Reaves, just to help LAL get Giannis?  I guess maybe if the League promised them some help in the draft in the future like some suspect was the case with DAL.

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An NBA sign-and-trade involves a free agent re-signing with their previous team and immediately being traded to a new team. The acquiring team is hard-capped at the first apron for the remainder of the season, meaning their total payroll cannot exceed this designated level above the luxury tax, forcing rigid financial restriction

Re: Giannis Antetokounmpo reportedly wants to stay in East
« Reply #18 on: Today at 04:14:28 PM »

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Just kill Jaylen Brown? Seems a bit drastic.

That would really hurt his trade value.
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Re: Giannis Antetokounmpo reportedly wants to stay in East
« Reply #19 on: Today at 04:28:00 PM »

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Just thinking what the Bucks would be like with Jaylen instead of Giannis. So assuming a straight swap.

G: R Rollins, K Porter Jr
G: G Trent, AJ Green
F: Jaylen, Kuzma
F: Portis
C: M Turner

I actually like that frontcourt. Jaylen, Portis and Myles Turner is a nice group. No bench bigs. Need to solve that in FA. Ryan Rollins is a solid starting guard but the other 3 are lackluster. They need a genuine starter next to Rollins. The other 3 guys are all backups.

MIL had a big hole at SF last season. Jaylen solves that. Portis steps up as the new starting PF. A better starter than what they had at SF last year when they went small with 2 undersized SGs on the wings with G Trent Jr and AJ Green.

They could put out a 40-45 win team easily enough. A few solid budget FA signings. Harder to turn it into a 50 win team. Hard to see how they get that starting guard they need.

Re: Giannis Antetokounmpo reportedly wants to stay in East
« Reply #20 on: Today at 04:34:57 PM »

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I found this paragraph from the ESPN article below interesting. According to Charania, we actually did pursue Giannis at the deadline. The article also very clearly states that the Bucks intend on moving him this offseason:

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The NBA playoffs represent another landmark point for the Antetokounmpo sweepstakes. Sources said postseason teams such as the Minnesota Timberwolves, Cleveland Cavaliers, Boston Celtics, Knicks and Los Angeles Lakers pursued Antetokounmpo at the February deadline, and their finishes to the campaign will play a major factor in their aggressiveness to trade for him.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/48741814/sources-bucks-seeking-trade-offers-giannis-antetokounmpo

Pls not the Lakers...don't want to envision a Big 3 of Luka Doncic, Giannis, and LeBron

Any of these teams will need to send back $58M I believe, or something close to that.  I don't know how the Lakers could do that and keep LeBron and Luka.  I don't think you need to worry about LAL getting Giannis.  NYK would have a tough time also unless MIL is interested in Towns.  I don't see what MIN could offer either.

If MIL actually ends up trading Giannis, BOS would be in a very good spot.
Reaves sign and trade gets a lot of the way there.

A S&T hardcaps them at the first apron, right?

Yes, if LAL signed Reaves and then traded him to MIL in a sign and trade, that would hard cap MIL at the first apron for the rest of the 2026-27 season.  No sure if MIL plans to live over the first apron.   But I am not so sure that Reaves contract is going to be in Giannis territory.  MIL has the Lillard dead cap money plus they have to sign their draft pick, but they have some room under the 1st apron to work with based on what I see on Spotrac.

Reaves turned down a 4 year contract starting around $20M, right?  I think he will be lucky to get $30M starting.  LAL could pay him more if they wanted to, I guess, but would MIL really want to start their rebuild by overpaying Reaves, just to help LAL get Giannis?  I guess maybe if the League promised them some help in the draft in the future like some suspect was the case with DAL.

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An NBA sign-and-trade involves a free agent re-signing with their previous team and immediately being traded to a new team. The acquiring team is hard-capped at the first apron for the remainder of the season, meaning their total payroll cannot exceed this designated level above the luxury tax, forcing rigid financial restriction
I assumed it would be Reaves, let's say 25-30 million first year, then add in Knecht, LaRavia, Vanderbilt and you are at about 47-52 million.  Add in the tradeable 1st's and you get a decent package for Giannis. 
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Re: Giannis Antetokounmpo reportedly wants to stay in East
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Bucks insider on what Milwaukee would want for Giannis.

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1659272368650236&vanity=WEEI&http_ref=eyJ0cyI6MTc3ODUzMTk2ODAwMCwiciI6Imh0dHBzOlwvXC93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbVwvIn0%3D


Sounds like they don?t want JB unless they can get a 3rd team involved like Atlanta. Bucks are looking for young stars like Jalen Johnson, Paolo Banchero, etc.
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Re: Giannis Antetokounmpo reportedly wants to stay in East
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I found this paragraph from the ESPN article below interesting. According to Charania, we actually did pursue Giannis at the deadline. The article also very clearly states that the Bucks intend on moving him this offseason:

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The NBA playoffs represent another landmark point for the Antetokounmpo sweepstakes. Sources said postseason teams such as the Minnesota Timberwolves, Cleveland Cavaliers, Boston Celtics, Knicks and Los Angeles Lakers pursued Antetokounmpo at the February deadline, and their finishes to the campaign will play a major factor in their aggressiveness to trade for him.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/48741814/sources-bucks-seeking-trade-offers-giannis-antetokounmpo

Pls not the Lakers...don't want to envision a Big 3 of Luka Doncic, Giannis, and LeBron

Any of these teams will need to send back $58M I believe, or something close to that.  I don't know how the Lakers could do that and keep LeBron and Luka.  I don't think you need to worry about LAL getting Giannis.  NYK would have a tough time also unless MIL is interested in Towns.  I don't see what MIN could offer either.

If MIL actually ends up trading Giannis, BOS would be in a very good spot.
Reaves sign and trade gets a lot of the way there.

A S&T hardcaps them at the first apron, right?

Yes, if LAL signed Reaves and then traded him to MIL in a sign and trade, that would hard cap MIL at the first apron for the rest of the 2026-27 season.  No sure if MIL plans to live over the first apron.   But I am not so sure that Reaves contract is going to be in Giannis territory.  MIL has the Lillard dead cap money plus they have to sign their draft pick, but they have some room under the 1st apron to work with based on what I see on Spotrac.

Reaves turned down a 4 year contract starting around $20M, right?  I think he will be lucky to get $30M starting.  LAL could pay him more if they wanted to, I guess, but would MIL really want to start their rebuild by overpaying Reaves, just to help LAL get Giannis?  I guess maybe if the League promised them some help in the draft in the future like some suspect was the case with DAL.

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An NBA sign-and-trade involves a free agent re-signing with their previous team and immediately being traded to a new team. The acquiring team is hard-capped at the first apron for the remainder of the season, meaning their total payroll cannot exceed this designated level above the luxury tax, forcing rigid financial restriction
I assumed it would be Reaves, let's say 25-30 million first year, then add in Knecht, LaRavia, Vanderbilt and you are at about 47-52 million.  Add in the tradeable 1st's and you get a decent package for Giannis.
that's a horrible package for Giannis.  Reaves is an ok starter but no foundational piece which is what Mil should be pushing for.  I wouldn't deal Giannis to LA for anything that doesn't include Luka and that would be a non-starter for LA