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Re: Giannis Antetokounmpo reportedly wants to stay in East
« Reply #15 on: May 11, 2026, 03:24:29 PM »

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I found this paragraph from the ESPN article below interesting. According to Charania, we actually did pursue Giannis at the deadline. The article also very clearly states that the Bucks intend on moving him this offseason:

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The NBA playoffs represent another landmark point for the Antetokounmpo sweepstakes. Sources said postseason teams such as the Minnesota Timberwolves, Cleveland Cavaliers, Boston Celtics, Knicks and Los Angeles Lakers pursued Antetokounmpo at the February deadline, and their finishes to the campaign will play a major factor in their aggressiveness to trade for him.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/48741814/sources-bucks-seeking-trade-offers-giannis-antetokounmpo

Pls not the Lakers...don't want to envision a Big 3 of Luka Doncic, Giannis, and LeBron

Any of these teams will need to send back $58M I believe, or something close to that.  I don't know how the Lakers could do that and keep LeBron and Luka.  I don't think you need to worry about LAL getting Giannis.  NYK would have a tough time also unless MIL is interested in Towns.  I don't see what MIN could offer either.

If MIL actually ends up trading Giannis, BOS would be in a very good spot.
Reaves sign and trade gets a lot of the way there. 
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Re: Giannis Antetokounmpo reportedly wants to stay in East
« Reply #16 on: May 11, 2026, 03:50:55 PM »

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I found this paragraph from the ESPN article below interesting. According to Charania, we actually did pursue Giannis at the deadline. The article also very clearly states that the Bucks intend on moving him this offseason:

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The NBA playoffs represent another landmark point for the Antetokounmpo sweepstakes. Sources said postseason teams such as the Minnesota Timberwolves, Cleveland Cavaliers, Boston Celtics, Knicks and Los Angeles Lakers pursued Antetokounmpo at the February deadline, and their finishes to the campaign will play a major factor in their aggressiveness to trade for him.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/48741814/sources-bucks-seeking-trade-offers-giannis-antetokounmpo

Pls not the Lakers...don't want to envision a Big 3 of Luka Doncic, Giannis, and LeBron

Any of these teams will need to send back $58M I believe, or something close to that.  I don't know how the Lakers could do that and keep LeBron and Luka.  I don't think you need to worry about LAL getting Giannis.  NYK would have a tough time also unless MIL is interested in Towns.  I don't see what MIN could offer either.

If MIL actually ends up trading Giannis, BOS would be in a very good spot.
Reaves sign and trade gets a lot of the way there.

A S&T hardcaps them at the first apron, right?


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Re: Giannis Antetokounmpo reportedly wants to stay in East
« Reply #17 on: May 11, 2026, 04:12:20 PM »

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I found this paragraph from the ESPN article below interesting. According to Charania, we actually did pursue Giannis at the deadline. The article also very clearly states that the Bucks intend on moving him this offseason:

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The NBA playoffs represent another landmark point for the Antetokounmpo sweepstakes. Sources said postseason teams such as the Minnesota Timberwolves, Cleveland Cavaliers, Boston Celtics, Knicks and Los Angeles Lakers pursued Antetokounmpo at the February deadline, and their finishes to the campaign will play a major factor in their aggressiveness to trade for him.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/48741814/sources-bucks-seeking-trade-offers-giannis-antetokounmpo

Pls not the Lakers...don't want to envision a Big 3 of Luka Doncic, Giannis, and LeBron

Any of these teams will need to send back $58M I believe, or something close to that.  I don't know how the Lakers could do that and keep LeBron and Luka.  I don't think you need to worry about LAL getting Giannis.  NYK would have a tough time also unless MIL is interested in Towns.  I don't see what MIN could offer either.

If MIL actually ends up trading Giannis, BOS would be in a very good spot.
Reaves sign and trade gets a lot of the way there.

A S&T hardcaps them at the first apron, right?

Yes, if LAL signed Reaves and then traded him to MIL in a sign and trade, that would hard cap MIL at the first apron for the rest of the 2026-27 season.  No sure if MIL plans to live over the first apron.   But I am not so sure that Reaves contract is going to be in Giannis territory.  MIL has the Lillard dead cap money plus they have to sign their draft pick, but they have some room under the 1st apron to work with based on what I see on Spotrac.

Reaves turned down a 4 year contract starting around $20M, right?  I think he will be lucky to get $30M starting.  LAL could pay him more if they wanted to, I guess, but would MIL really want to start their rebuild by overpaying Reaves, just to help LAL get Giannis?  I guess maybe if the League promised them some help in the draft in the future like some suspect was the case with DAL.

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Re: Giannis Antetokounmpo reportedly wants to stay in East
« Reply #18 on: May 11, 2026, 04:14:28 PM »

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Re: Giannis Antetokounmpo reportedly wants to stay in East
« Reply #19 on: May 11, 2026, 04:28:00 PM »

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Just thinking what the Bucks would be like with Jaylen instead of Giannis. So assuming a straight swap.

G: R Rollins, K Porter Jr
G: G Trent, AJ Green
F: Jaylen, Kuzma
F: Portis
C: M Turner

I actually like that frontcourt. Jaylen, Portis and Myles Turner is a nice group. No bench bigs. Need to solve that in FA. Ryan Rollins is a solid starting guard but the other 3 are lackluster. They need a genuine starter next to Rollins. The other 3 guys are all backups.

MIL had a big hole at SF last season. Jaylen solves that. Portis steps up as the new starting PF. A better starter than what they had at SF last year when they went small with 2 undersized SGs on the wings with G Trent Jr and AJ Green.

They could put out a 40-45 win team easily enough. A few solid budget FA signings. Harder to turn it into a 50 win team. Hard to see how they get that starting guard they need.

Re: Giannis Antetokounmpo reportedly wants to stay in East
« Reply #20 on: May 11, 2026, 04:34:57 PM »

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I found this paragraph from the ESPN article below interesting. According to Charania, we actually did pursue Giannis at the deadline. The article also very clearly states that the Bucks intend on moving him this offseason:

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The NBA playoffs represent another landmark point for the Antetokounmpo sweepstakes. Sources said postseason teams such as the Minnesota Timberwolves, Cleveland Cavaliers, Boston Celtics, Knicks and Los Angeles Lakers pursued Antetokounmpo at the February deadline, and their finishes to the campaign will play a major factor in their aggressiveness to trade for him.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/48741814/sources-bucks-seeking-trade-offers-giannis-antetokounmpo

Pls not the Lakers...don't want to envision a Big 3 of Luka Doncic, Giannis, and LeBron

Any of these teams will need to send back $58M I believe, or something close to that.  I don't know how the Lakers could do that and keep LeBron and Luka.  I don't think you need to worry about LAL getting Giannis.  NYK would have a tough time also unless MIL is interested in Towns.  I don't see what MIN could offer either.

If MIL actually ends up trading Giannis, BOS would be in a very good spot.
Reaves sign and trade gets a lot of the way there.

A S&T hardcaps them at the first apron, right?

Yes, if LAL signed Reaves and then traded him to MIL in a sign and trade, that would hard cap MIL at the first apron for the rest of the 2026-27 season.  No sure if MIL plans to live over the first apron.   But I am not so sure that Reaves contract is going to be in Giannis territory.  MIL has the Lillard dead cap money plus they have to sign their draft pick, but they have some room under the 1st apron to work with based on what I see on Spotrac.

Reaves turned down a 4 year contract starting around $20M, right?  I think he will be lucky to get $30M starting.  LAL could pay him more if they wanted to, I guess, but would MIL really want to start their rebuild by overpaying Reaves, just to help LAL get Giannis?  I guess maybe if the League promised them some help in the draft in the future like some suspect was the case with DAL.

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An NBA sign-and-trade involves a free agent re-signing with their previous team and immediately being traded to a new team. The acquiring team is hard-capped at the first apron for the remainder of the season, meaning their total payroll cannot exceed this designated level above the luxury tax, forcing rigid financial restriction
I assumed it would be Reaves, let's say 25-30 million first year, then add in Knecht, LaRavia, Vanderbilt and you are at about 47-52 million.  Add in the tradeable 1st's and you get a decent package for Giannis. 
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Re: Giannis Antetokounmpo reportedly wants to stay in East
« Reply #21 on: May 11, 2026, 04:45:00 PM »

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Bucks insider on what Milwaukee would want for Giannis.

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Sounds like they don?t want JB unless they can get a 3rd team involved like Atlanta. Bucks are looking for young stars like Jalen Johnson, Paolo Banchero, etc.
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Re: Giannis Antetokounmpo reportedly wants to stay in East
« Reply #22 on: May 11, 2026, 04:46:31 PM »

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I found this paragraph from the ESPN article below interesting. According to Charania, we actually did pursue Giannis at the deadline. The article also very clearly states that the Bucks intend on moving him this offseason:

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The NBA playoffs represent another landmark point for the Antetokounmpo sweepstakes. Sources said postseason teams such as the Minnesota Timberwolves, Cleveland Cavaliers, Boston Celtics, Knicks and Los Angeles Lakers pursued Antetokounmpo at the February deadline, and their finishes to the campaign will play a major factor in their aggressiveness to trade for him.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/48741814/sources-bucks-seeking-trade-offers-giannis-antetokounmpo

Pls not the Lakers...don't want to envision a Big 3 of Luka Doncic, Giannis, and LeBron

Any of these teams will need to send back $58M I believe, or something close to that.  I don't know how the Lakers could do that and keep LeBron and Luka.  I don't think you need to worry about LAL getting Giannis.  NYK would have a tough time also unless MIL is interested in Towns.  I don't see what MIN could offer either.

If MIL actually ends up trading Giannis, BOS would be in a very good spot.
Reaves sign and trade gets a lot of the way there.

A S&T hardcaps them at the first apron, right?

Yes, if LAL signed Reaves and then traded him to MIL in a sign and trade, that would hard cap MIL at the first apron for the rest of the 2026-27 season.  No sure if MIL plans to live over the first apron.   But I am not so sure that Reaves contract is going to be in Giannis territory.  MIL has the Lillard dead cap money plus they have to sign their draft pick, but they have some room under the 1st apron to work with based on what I see on Spotrac.

Reaves turned down a 4 year contract starting around $20M, right?  I think he will be lucky to get $30M starting.  LAL could pay him more if they wanted to, I guess, but would MIL really want to start their rebuild by overpaying Reaves, just to help LAL get Giannis?  I guess maybe if the League promised them some help in the draft in the future like some suspect was the case with DAL.

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An NBA sign-and-trade involves a free agent re-signing with their previous team and immediately being traded to a new team. The acquiring team is hard-capped at the first apron for the remainder of the season, meaning their total payroll cannot exceed this designated level above the luxury tax, forcing rigid financial restriction
I assumed it would be Reaves, let's say 25-30 million first year, then add in Knecht, LaRavia, Vanderbilt and you are at about 47-52 million.  Add in the tradeable 1st's and you get a decent package for Giannis.
that's a horrible package for Giannis.  Reaves is an ok starter but no foundational piece which is what Mil should be pushing for.  I wouldn't deal Giannis to LA for anything that doesn't include Luka and that would be a non-starter for LA

Re: Giannis Antetokounmpo reportedly wants to stay in East
« Reply #23 on: May 11, 2026, 09:24:12 PM »

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I found this paragraph from the ESPN article below interesting. According to Charania, we actually did pursue Giannis at the deadline. The article also very clearly states that the Bucks intend on moving him this offseason:

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The NBA playoffs represent another landmark point for the Antetokounmpo sweepstakes. Sources said postseason teams such as the Minnesota Timberwolves, Cleveland Cavaliers, Boston Celtics, Knicks and Los Angeles Lakers pursued Antetokounmpo at the February deadline, and their finishes to the campaign will play a major factor in their aggressiveness to trade for him.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/48741814/sources-bucks-seeking-trade-offers-giannis-antetokounmpo

Pls not the Lakers...don't want to envision a Big 3 of Luka Doncic, Giannis, and LeBron

Any of these teams will need to send back $58M I believe, or something close to that.  I don't know how the Lakers could do that and keep LeBron and Luka.  I don't think you need to worry about LAL getting Giannis.  NYK would have a tough time also unless MIL is interested in Towns.  I don't see what MIN could offer either.

If MIL actually ends up trading Giannis, BOS would be in a very good spot.
Reaves sign and trade gets a lot of the way there.

A S&T hardcaps them at the first apron, right?

Yes, if LAL signed Reaves and then traded him to MIL in a sign and trade, that would hard cap MIL at the first apron for the rest of the 2026-27 season.  No sure if MIL plans to live over the first apron.   But I am not so sure that Reaves contract is going to be in Giannis territory.  MIL has the Lillard dead cap money plus they have to sign their draft pick, but they have some room under the 1st apron to work with based on what I see on Spotrac.

Reaves turned down a 4 year contract starting around $20M, right?  I think he will be lucky to get $30M starting.  LAL could pay him more if they wanted to, I guess, but would MIL really want to start their rebuild by overpaying Reaves, just to help LAL get Giannis?  I guess maybe if the League promised them some help in the draft in the future like some suspect was the case with DAL.

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An NBA sign-and-trade involves a free agent re-signing with their previous team and immediately being traded to a new team. The acquiring team is hard-capped at the first apron for the remainder of the season, meaning their total payroll cannot exceed this designated level above the luxury tax, forcing rigid financial restriction
I assumed it would be Reaves, let's say 25-30 million first year, then add in Knecht, LaRavia, Vanderbilt and you are at about 47-52 million.  Add in the tradeable 1st's and you get a decent package for Giannis.
that's a horrible package for Giannis.  Reaves is an ok starter but no foundational piece which is what Mil should be pushing for.  I wouldn't deal Giannis to LA for anything that doesn't include Luka and that would be a non-starter for LA
Reaves as a 2nd/3rd option averaged 23.3 ppg, 5.5 apg, and 4.7 rpg.  He is 27.  He shoots well.  Not a great defender, but makes the effort.  He may not be a foundational piece, but he is certainly good enough to win Milwaukee some games and put some butts in the seats.  The future draft picks are the main reason that Milwaukee might do that trade.  They need to get more draft capital.
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Re: Giannis Antetokounmpo reportedly wants to stay in East
« Reply #24 on: May 11, 2026, 09:41:25 PM »

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If the Lakers can get Giannis for a package headlined by Reaves, I'm not sure how Derrick White and Tyler Herro are worse from Boston or Miami's standpoint? Lakers fans are calling LaRavia the worst Laker ever and Knecht has zero value. Vanderbilt could barely get minutes either.
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Re: Giannis Antetokounmpo reportedly wants to stay in East
« Reply #25 on: May 11, 2026, 09:52:13 PM »

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If the Lakers can get Giannis for a package headlined by Reaves, I'm not sure how Derrick White and Tyler Herro are worse from Boston or Miami's standpoint? Lakers fans are calling LaRavia the worst Laker ever and Knecht has zero value. Vanderbilt could barely get minutes either.
agreed.  Reaves certainly isn't better than White and may be at Herro's level which is sub-all-star level player

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« Reply #26 on: May 11, 2026, 09:59:39 PM »

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If the Lakers can get Giannis for a package headlined by Reaves, I'm not sure how Derrick White and Tyler Herro are worse from Boston or Miami's standpoint? Lakers fans are calling LaRavia the worst Laker ever and Knecht has zero value. Vanderbilt could barely get minutes either.
agreed.  Reaves certainly isn't better than White and may be at Herro's level which is sub-all-star level player

Ultimately, my prediction is IF the Cavaliers lose this series to the Pistons, they will trade Mobley, a role player and a bunch of picks to get Giannis. Or they could even do it if they advance to the ECF and lose to NY.
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« Reply #27 on: May 11, 2026, 10:05:29 PM »

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If the Lakers can get Giannis for a package headlined by Reaves, I'm not sure how Derrick White and Tyler Herro are worse from Boston or Miami's standpoint? Lakers fans are calling LaRavia the worst Laker ever and Knecht has zero value. Vanderbilt could barely get minutes either.
agreed.  Reaves certainly isn't better than White and may be at Herro's level which is sub-all-star level player

The Lakers fans here in LA truly believe Austin Reaves is the best #3 man/3rd fiddle in the NBA, hesitant to even trade him. But if it's to land Giannis then they are more likely to support rolling the dice.


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Re: Giannis Antetokounmpo reportedly wants to stay in East
« Reply #28 on: May 11, 2026, 11:13:32 PM »

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If the Lakers can get Giannis for a package headlined by Reaves, I'm not sure how Derrick White and Tyler Herro are worse from Boston or Miami's standpoint? Lakers fans are calling LaRavia the worst Laker ever and Knecht has zero value. Vanderbilt could barely get minutes either.
agreed.  Reaves certainly isn't better than White and may be at Herro's level which is sub-all-star level player
There is very little actual evidence that White is better than Reaves right now.  Reaves scores more on a significantly higher efficiency (he scored nearly 7 ppg more on just 0.5 more shots).  He gets more assists despite playing on a team where he doesn't handle the ball as much given he plays with 2 of the best passers in the sport.  He rebounds better.  His WS/48 is better.  White is obviously a better defender, but defense is less important in this sort of thing and if you are going to be the primary offensive player, Reaves is simply better at that.  Reaves is also significantly younger and still improving while White has been regressing the last 3 years (and there is no reason to think that he won't continue to regress). 

Reaves has significantly more trade value that White in this sort of trade.  Now a true contender looking for players around the edges might prefer the things White provides more than Reaves (like if OKC was interested, I think they'd prefer White), but in a trade for Giannis, Reaves has way more value than White. 
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« Reply #29 on: May 12, 2026, 01:07:14 AM »

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If the Lakers can get Giannis for a package headlined by Reaves, I'm not sure how Derrick White and Tyler Herro are worse from Boston or Miami's standpoint? Lakers fans are calling LaRavia the worst Laker ever and Knecht has zero value. Vanderbilt could barely get minutes either.
agreed.  Reaves certainly isn't better than White and may be at Herro's level which is sub-all-star level player
There is very little actual evidence that White is better than Reaves right now.  Reaves scores more on a significantly higher efficiency (he scored nearly 7 ppg more on just 0.5 more shots).  He gets more assists despite playing on a team where he doesn't handle the ball as much given he plays with 2 of the best passers in the sport.  He rebounds better.  His WS/48 is better.  White is obviously a better defender, but defense is less important in this sort of thing and if you are going to be the primary offensive player, Reaves is simply better at that.  Reaves is also significantly younger and still improving while White has been regressing the last 3 years (and there is no reason to think that he won't continue to regress). 

Reaves has significantly more trade value that White in this sort of trade.  Now a true contender looking for players around the edges might prefer the things White provides more than Reaves (like if OKC was interested, I think they'd prefer White), but in a trade for Giannis, Reaves has way more value than White.

Any discussion about Reeves' value has to include what his next deal will be worth. This is a player who when the season started was bandied about as being worth a max deal. I don't think he's going to get that now, but he's certainly going to be making something significant. We've seen recently that teams are a lot more wary of paying big money to bad defensive players who put up impressive offensive stats but can't be hidden in the playoffs.

Also, if White were in any Giannis deal he would be going to a third team, not Milwaukee. So the question is, what could White command from another team that Milwaukee might find interesting? Would that be more valuable than Reeves on a newer deal?

Interestingly, Reeves is actually already 28 soon, since he was in college so long. He's actually less than two years younger than Jaylen, despite seeming a lot younger! So, you could make a case Reeves doesn't make that much sense in Milwaukee either.

Finally, Reeves would have to be in a sign-and-trade since he's an UFA. That means he doesn't HAVE to play ball if he doesn't want to go to Milwaukee. That and the fact that Giannis' deal needs to be matched means it's very possible Reeves' deal will come in on the higher side compared to what he might normally get.

I think if the Bucks do deal with Lakers, the biggest reason may be the future picks. Maybe Doncic and Giannis get hurt again and who knows what the team will look like in the next decade. Dealing Giannis to the West would also be less awkward than seeing him with an Eastern rival's uniform on.