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Re: Giannis Antetokounmpo reportedly wants to stay in East
« Reply #60 on: Yesterday at 07:01:06 PM »

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A potential three-team Giannis Antetokounmpo framework involving the Bucks, Celtics and Clippers:

Boston: Giannis, Bobby Portis, Brook Lopez

Milwaukee: No. 5, No. 27, Hugo Gonzalez, Isaiah Jackson, Derrick Jones Jr., Bogdan Bogdanovic, Future 1st (via Boston)

LA: Jaylen Brown
No way Milwaukee would do this

No way we would do this. We are giving up a 1st this year, a future 1st, and Hugo for the privilege of taking on Brook Lopez? I can see Portis, but he's not exactly cheap making $30M over the next two years. Lopez looks super-cooked and it would put us well into the tax.

We are the only ones giving up any value here, too. LAC basically getting Brown for just the #5. I don't think so.

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« Reply #61 on: Yesterday at 07:02:10 PM »

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Jim Owczarski: "Jon Horst does not leak. He has a very small front office and he does not discuss anything. Quite famously, and this might not be known to Celtics fans, the Damian Lillard trade, he literally created a bunker in the Bucks locker room in the offseason. There were people on his immediate staff that did not know what he was doing."

He said Horst did something similar with the Jrue Holiday addition in 2020. Lillard in 2023. Same with the waive and stretch of Lillard & signing of Myles Turner. Nobody knew anything about them. Not even many people in the Bucks organization. None of the players knew.

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« Reply #62 on: Yesterday at 07:20:37 PM »

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Windhorst is saying his focus is Miami and they are the frontrunners going into this week. Feels odd there's mixed reporting from even the reputable reporters around the league (Stein, Windhorst, Fischer, Amick, etc.). Would love to hear from Himmelsbach or some reliable Celtics reporters soon.

It seems Windhorst is kind of playing both sides right now. He also had this to say:

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Boston is also out there because Giannis from what I am told is willing to extend his contract in Boston. I think the Celtics are gonna be very, very cautious with making any firm offer and I would be very careful before saying anything has truly been offered

It honestly sounds to me like Boston is very much in this thing, but they absolutely do not want Jaylen's name leaked in case things going sideways. Either way, happy to see several reports that Giannis is in fact willing to extend in Boston. That means he likes us and there have at least been some actual talks.

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« Reply #63 on: Yesterday at 07:49:58 PM »

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Jim Owczarski: "Jon Horst does not leak. He has a very small front office and he does not discuss anything. Quite famously, and this might not be known to Celtics fans, the Damian Lillard trade, he literally created a bunker in the Bucks locker room in the offseason. There were people on his immediate staff that did not know what he was doing."

He said Horst did something similar with the Jrue Holiday addition in 2020. Lillard in 2023. Same with the waive and stretch of Lillard & signing of Myles Turner. Nobody knew anything about them. Not even many people in the Bucks organization. None of the players knew.

I believe he told the Blazers if it leaked the deal would be off.  That said, part of that was because the Blazers needed a third team and the Bucks did not want to ruin the relationship with Jrue if it fell apart.  The relationship with Giannis is definitely not something they are working to preserve at this point, so I do not think they have the same incentive for secrecy this time around.  Not that they will go around blabbing (I think few teams do), but I do not think it will be quite like Fort Knox.  And Giannis and his team probably do want to force his way to one of a few teams.  Boston seems to be one, which is great, for once, but that means they are incentivized to leak things that will make a deal more likely.

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« Reply #64 on: Yesterday at 08:09:13 PM »

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Windhorst is saying his focus is Miami and they are the frontrunners going into this week. Feels odd there's mixed reporting from even the reputable reporters around the league (Stein, Windhorst, Fischer, Amick, etc.). Would love to hear from Himmelsbach or some reliable Celtics reporters soon.

It seems Windhorst is kind of playing both sides right now. He also had this to say:

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Boston is also out there because Giannis from what I am told is willing to extend his contract in Boston. I think the Celtics are gonna be very, very cautious with making any firm offer and I would be very careful before saying anything has truly been offered

It honestly sounds to me like Boston is very much in this thing, but they absolutely do not want Jaylen's name leaked in case things going sideways. Either way, happy to see several reports that Giannis is in fact willing to extend in Boston. That means he likes us and there have at least been some actual talks.

Kinda wish Brad or Himmelsbach or someone would just come out and squash this stuff but it's making me think there's real smoke. The Durant stuff to me in 2022, while I'm not saying was entirely made up didn't feel as "smokey" either. It still didn't feel as likely at the time as this one. And the local reporters + team came out just days later to say Jaylen was their guy and basically that the Durant stuff was not true.
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« Reply #65 on: Yesterday at 09:26:00 PM »

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Windhorst is saying his focus is Miami and they are the frontrunners going into this week. Feels odd there's mixed reporting from even the reputable reporters around the league (Stein, Windhorst, Fischer, Amick, etc.). Would love to hear from Himmelsbach or some reliable Celtics reporters soon.

It seems Windhorst is kind of playing both sides right now. He also had this to say:

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Boston is also out there because Giannis from what I am told is willing to extend his contract in Boston. I think the Celtics are gonna be very, very cautious with making any firm offer and I would be very careful before saying anything has truly been offered

It honestly sounds to me like Boston is very much in this thing, but they absolutely do not want Jaylen's name leaked in case things going sideways. Either way, happy to see several reports that Giannis is in fact willing to extend in Boston. That means he likes us and there have at least been some actual talks.

Kinda wish Brad or Himmelsbach or someone would just come out and squash this stuff but it's making me think there's real smoke. The Durant stuff to me in 2022, while I'm not saying was entirely made up didn't feel as "smokey" either. It still didn't feel as likely at the time as this one. And the local reporters + team came out just days later to say Jaylen was their guy and basically that the Durant stuff was not true.

Jaylen's our guy that lost us 2022 and 2023. Heh


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« Reply #66 on: Today at 11:02:27 AM »

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I have been listening to all the Giannis/Brown chatter and I really don't think anyone out there has any idea of what is really going on or who is in the driver's seat or whatever.

What I think is interesting from a BOS perspective, is that they can play either side of a 3-way trade.  If there is a team that is interested in Brown and willing to offer a package of X, Y, and Z, BOS could potentially just take X, Y, and Z instead of Giannis.  A scenario I have in my mind is that there is at least one 3-way deal on the table but MIL is saying "OK, we will take X, Y, and Z but we also want BOS to add A and B".

This way, BOS can say to MIL, fine, have a nice season with Herro because we are just going to take the X, Y, Z  deal over adding in A and B to get Giannis.  Maybe BOS is offering Brown + C but MIL is trying to drive them up.

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« Reply #67 on: Today at 11:05:14 AM »

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Windhorst is saying his focus is Miami and they are the frontrunners going into this week. Feels odd there's mixed reporting from even the reputable reporters around the league (Stein, Windhorst, Fischer, Amick, etc.). Would love to hear from Himmelsbach or some reliable Celtics reporters soon.

It seems Windhorst is kind of playing both sides right now. He also had this to say:

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Boston is also out there because Giannis from what I am told is willing to extend his contract in Boston. I think the Celtics are gonna be very, very cautious with making any firm offer and I would be very careful before saying anything has truly been offered

It honestly sounds to me like Boston is very much in this thing, but they absolutely do not want Jaylen's name leaked in case things going sideways. Either way, happy to see several reports that Giannis is in fact willing to extend in Boston. That means he likes us and there have at least been some actual talks.

Kinda wish Brad or Himmelsbach or someone would just come out and squash this stuff but it's making me think there's real smoke. The Durant stuff to me in 2022, while I'm not saying was entirely made up didn't feel as "smokey" either. It still didn't feel as likely at the time as this one. And the local reporters + team came out just days later to say Jaylen was their guy and basically that the Durant stuff was not true.

I suspect the only people for whom the Celtics front office will quash this for, if there is any quashing to be done, are the Celtics players directly through phone calls and DMs.

ALos latest 3 team deal speculation is sending Jaylen to Portland


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« Reply #68 on: Today at 11:32:38 AM »

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🚨BREAKING: The Boston Celtics have agreed to acquire two-time MVP Giannis Antetokounmpo from the Milwaukee Bucks as part of a three-team blockbuster trade that sends Jaylen Brown to the Portland Trail Blazers, per sources.

This does not seem real but is being reported as "have agreed".  Not seeing any other reports of this.

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« Reply #69 on: Today at 11:35:04 AM »

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🚨BREAKING: The Boston Celtics have agreed to acquire two-time MVP Giannis Antetokounmpo from the Milwaukee Bucks as part of a three-team blockbuster trade that sends Jaylen Brown to the Portland Trail Blazers, per sources.

This does not seem real but is being reported as "have agreed".  Not seeing any other reports of this.

Who is this rando?

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"What I've heard from people depending on who you talk too, Boston or Miami is in the driver seat of this conversation. A couple executives I talked to yesterday said, they think that Miami thinks Boston is in the lead? " @VinceGoodwill on Giannis to Miami or Boston rumors

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« Reply #71 on: Today at 12:29:48 PM »

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I am not sure I get how POR can provide the pieces that MIL would want.  I understand that POR has picks to offer, but what I am seeing is not until 2028.  They don't have a pick in 2026 and I am unclear on their pick in 2027 (it is not coming up on Spotrac Trade Machine).  But maybe POR could offer their 2027 pick plus the 2028 and 2029 MIL picks back to them.  If BOS were to throw in their 2026 pick, that is a nice package of picks.

For the players though, I guess POR could trade Sharpe since they are getting Brown.  Plus dump Grant (which works).  For POR, I see this as one pick so MIL will take on Grant, and then Sharpe and (2) picks for Brown.  It feels like an awkward trade for POR. Seems to work OK for BOS and MIL.  BOS could throw in Hauser and take back Portis also as a variation or this could be an entirely separate deal.

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« Reply #73 on: Today at 01:50:50 PM »

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Is it bad that part of the reason I want Giannis is to see heat fans meltdown again? This would be like Dame turned up to 11.

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« Reply #74 on: Today at 01:53:26 PM »

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I am not sure I get how POR can provide the pieces that MIL would want.  I understand that POR has picks to offer, but what I am seeing is not until 2028.  They don't have a pick in 2026 and I am unclear on their pick in 2027 (it is not coming up on Spotrac Trade Machine).  But maybe POR could offer their 2027 pick plus the 2028 and 2029 MIL picks back to them.  If BOS were to throw in their 2026 pick, that is a nice package of picks.

For the players though, I guess POR could trade Sharpe since they are getting Brown.  Plus dump Grant (which works).  For POR, I see this as one pick so MIL will take on Grant, and then Sharpe and (2) picks for Brown.  It feels like an awkward trade for POR. Seems to work OK for BOS and MIL.  BOS could throw in Hauser and take back Portis also as a variation or this could be an entirely separate deal.

Portland can trade its 2027 pick once the 2026 draft happens, since they do not have a pick this year.  Portland also controls three straight Milwaukee picks from 2028-2030.  If Milwaukee trades Giannis, regaining control of its 1sts for that period is highly valuable.  They also have an Orlando pick in 2028 and our pick in 2029.