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I don't think I've ever seen a Boston sports star get less love from his own fanbase than JB.  David Price, maybe.  But Price meant less to the Red Sox than JB has to the Celtics - and was certainly around for much less time. 

Sad, honestly.

Well, the irrational need their scapegoat, [dang it].


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Does anyone honestly believe this was his favorite year because he saw Tatum overcome his injury?

Who believes that?

He was posting all year long how the team had the same record as last year at the all-star break , while getting rid of holiday, Horford,  porzingis  etc.


It's his favorite year because he got to have his "shine " as he puts it...

Yeah, he posted this graphic on his Instagram back in February. He didn't say anything outrageous, but he was certainly proud that he was leading this team to a similar record to last year despite losing so much talent:



Should he not of been proud of himself and his team?  He was balling, and saw a bunch of his teammates stepping up and showing they belong as NBA players.  I would hope he was proud.

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Sounds like someone got a call from Brad. I?m sure Stevens didn?t like being asked about the comments made by T-Mac.   :laugh:

Damage control.
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I don't think I've ever seen a Boston sports star get less love from his own fanbase than JB.  David Price, maybe.  But Price meant less to the Red Sox than JB has to the Celtics - and was certainly around for much less time. 

Sad, honestly.

I think people are just tired of his antics, on and off the court. JB does not seem very mature for someone who is turning 30. He lacks self awareness.
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Does anyone honestly believe this was his favorite year because he saw Tatum overcome his injury?

Who believes that?

He was posting all year long how the team had the same record as last year at the all-star break , while getting rid of holiday, Horford,  porzingis  etc.


It's his favorite year because he got to have his "shine " as he puts it...

Yeah, he posted this graphic on his Instagram back in February. He didn't say anything outrageous, but he was certainly proud that he was leading this team to a similar record to last year despite losing so much talent:


Should he not of been proud of himself and his team?  He was balling, and saw a bunch of his teammates stepping up and showing they belong as NBA players.  I would hope he was proud.

Oh, for sure. But I also think some people saw it as him taking most of the credit for how well the team performed this year, not that the coaching and team overall has done so well. Just taking this season where Jaylen will be top 6 in MVP voting, he finished with a negative on/off rating. That is fairly remarkable since White was one of the league leaders in that category and they both played similar minutes.

I do think Jaylen played better than advanced stats show and he proved to be a great leader for this young team, just giving additional context from 'the other side'.

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I don't think I've ever seen a Boston sports star get less love from his own fanbase than JB.  David Price, maybe.  But Price meant less to the Red Sox than JB has to the Celtics - and was certainly around for much less time. 

Sad, honestly.

I think people are just tired of his antics, on and off the court. JB does not seem very mature for someone who is turning 30. He lacks self awareness.

Relative to antics that occur with other athletes, don't you think Jaylen's are pretty mild and would you agree that the guy has put in more effort - especially as a seasoned veteran - than most?  I know in the past he's made some questionable comments (non-basketball related) but speaking to the recent expressions of frustration or making critical comments about refs, or maybe overstating his greatness - these are aren't him getting into trouble with the law, domestic discord or violence (violence of any kind), drug or alcohol issues, causing discord among teammates (not that I know of).  He wants to be the best he can be; he wants to win. Yes - it seems like being the best he can be might be slightly prioritized over team goals, but overall his antics really aren't antics.  It's more about who JB is, which is a guy who isn't always going to be the model for saying the things we wish he would say.   It's been a gift to have the Jays - good citizens who work hard, want to win, and are really terrific players. And they won a championship.  Hope they stay.

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I don't think I've ever seen a Boston sports star get less love from his own fanbase than JB.  David Price, maybe.  But Price meant less to the Red Sox than JB has to the Celtics - and was certainly around for much less time. 

Sad, honestly.

I hope my posts are not coming off as being down on Brown.  I love him as a player.  He was top 10 in the league this season, really stepped up.  Plays hard, all that.  But he is an imperfect player.  And I have never bought into the theory that he isn't good paired with Tatum.

For me, it is questioning whether he wants a bigger role and some of the other off court statements and things.  Nothing egregious in my mind, just some unnecessary stuff.  The discussion (among other things) is about potentially trading him for Giannis, a past league MVP.  And if not Giannis, maybe there is another package of some really good players that he could be potentially traded for.

I will not be disappointed if he is not traded.  But it is the off season (for BOS anyway) and speculating about highly unlikely trades is what fans do in the off season.

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I don't think I've ever seen a Boston sports star get less love from his own fanbase than JB.  David Price, maybe.  But Price meant less to the Red Sox than JB has to the Celtics - and was certainly around for much less time. 

Sad, honestly.
quite sad. 

the guy gives his all for this team and tries to improve his game every year.  finds happiness in having a team significantly exceed expectations and gets hammered for it.  just ridiculous amount of hatred for him

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I don't think I've ever seen a Boston sports star get less love from his own fanbase than JB.  David Price, maybe.  But Price meant less to the Red Sox than JB has to the Celtics - and was certainly around for much less time. 

Sad, honestly.
quite sad. 

the guy gives his all for this team and tries to improve his game every year.  finds happiness in having a team significantly exceed expectations and gets hammered for it.  just ridiculous amount of hatred for him

Agreed. 

Like I said the other day, it's been a clownshow around here the past few days.


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I don't think I've ever seen a Boston sports star get less love from his own fanbase than JB.  David Price, maybe.  But Price meant less to the Red Sox than JB has to the Celtics - and was certainly around for much less time. 

Sad, honestly.

I think people are just tired of his antics, on and off the court. JB does not seem very mature for someone who is turning 30. He lacks self awareness.

Relative to antics that occur with other athletes, don't you think Jaylen's are pretty mild and would you agree that the guy has put in more effort - especially as a seasoned veteran - than most?  I know in the past he's made some questionable comments (non-basketball related) but speaking to the recent expressions of frustration or making critical comments about refs, or maybe overstating his greatness - these are aren't him getting into trouble with the law, domestic discord or violence (violence of any kind), drug or alcohol issues, causing discord among teammates (not that I know of).  He wants to be the best he can be; he wants to win. Yes - it seems like being the best he can be might be slightly prioritized over team goals, but overall his antics really aren't antics.  It's more about who JB is, which is a guy who isn't always going to be the model for saying the things we wish he would say.   It's been a gift to have the Jays - good citizens who work hard, want to win, and are really terrific players. And they won a championship.  Hope they stay.

I?m not saying he did anything illegal, but he?s regularly getting fined by the league for his comments about the officials being ?out to get him?.  It?s always me, my, I. His constant need for adulation is tiresome. Think WHO summed it up well in another thread.

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Agreed. This part of JB's personality irritates me.

It is like he wants a medal every time he doesn't get absolutely everything in the world he wants. Doesn't everyone know how unselfish he is? He got only 90-95% of everything instead of 100%? How wonderful am I?

That is reality on any high level basketball team. Sure he can play on a 35-45 win team and he can bump up that extra 5-10% but he'll never play on a contender again. On any contender he will have to sacrifice something ... not a lot but something.

Every other player in the league can do this without needing a frickin' medal or parade through the streets telling him how wonderful he is for sacrificing a small amount.
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I don't think I've ever seen a Boston sports star get less love from his own fanbase than JB.  David Price, maybe.  But Price meant less to the Red Sox than JB has to the Celtics - and was certainly around for much less time. 

Sad, honestly.
quite sad. 

the guy gives his all for this team and tries to improve his game every year.  finds happiness in having a team significantly exceed expectations and gets hammered for it.  just ridiculous amount of hatred for him

I don't see anybody here saying they hate Jaylen Brown, but if this team is not winning, and no longer at least making ECFs, then it is fine for fans to consider a change.

I have defended Jaylen Brown all year to doubtful non-Celtics fans saying what makes him valuable is his ability to make tough shots in the playoffs and lock down another team's best player. Well, now I look like an idiot. If Jaylen is going to have a negative on/off in the regular season and then more or less lay an egg in the 1st round of the playoffs, then what are we to say?

It's fine to talk about exceeding expectations, but when the team gets their best player back, wins 56 games, is expected to go to the Finals, and then blows the first 3-1 lead in franchise history, questions can and should be asked. Jaylen has talked about sacrificing his whole career, but he is not immune to criticism.

And now there are rumblings that he wasn't happy with Joe's rotations, that he thinks the rest of the league has moved on past the 3pt-centric offense, and that he is frustrated with the organization. Those things don't go over well with fans. We want our players to be happy, not just for themselves, but we want them to feel happy for their teammates and their role within the organization.

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I feel it is fair to criticize Brown if he says dumb things or posts dumb things.  Fans would do the same if it was Kevin Durant or LeBron or anyone else.

I wholly agree that none of this is egregious, but I feel he goes a little too far sometimes in terms of whistles he gets or doesn't get, in terms of how much he has sacrificed, and/or how frustrated he may or may not be with the Celtics.  It is simply unnecessary.  I get that it is all part of today's social media world, but I feel it is fair to expect athletes to deal with it without creating unnecessary issues for the team.  Brown created the current narrative.  He didn't have to.

But none of this means that I feel BOS should trade Brown for the sake of trading him.  Trade him for Giannis?  Sure.