Do you trust JB?

[BudweiserCeltic]

Is Jaylen Brown really sacrificing at all?

In what world does he believe he's sacrificing, compared to other star players in the league?

This is a team of 2 stars. That's the usual in just about any team in the league. Some feature more high utility players.

So really, how much is Jaylen sacrificing vs others in the league?

If he's really unhappy with his role here, he'll be unhappy with his role in just about any other team in the league. And if the role in his mind is a role where he does everything everytime, I guess he'll be happy playing in a team that goes nowhere.

I don't think Brown is unhappy here, I think this overblown. Just the same, I don't think this talk about sacrificing has much merit. Everyone in the league sacrifices, and I don't think Brown sacrifices much at all vs others in the league.

[keevsnick]

This is the same stuff we've seen near every offseason for the last 6-8 years.

-Brown is unhappy
-Brown wants to be the #1 guy
-Brown and Tatum don't fit together

ect, ect ect.

Its literally the same stuff every offseason.

Look, maybe eventually they'll trade Brown (or even Tatum for that matter). But until I actually see it nothing that's happened this offseason is making me think Brown wont be back next year.

So far we've had Brown say he wants to be here for the net 10 years and Stevens say Brown has been nothing but positive. All the noise is, as usual, coming from people who simply do not know anything.

[keevsnick]

Is Jaylen Brown really sacrificing at all?

In what world does he believe he's sacrificing, compared to other star players in the league?

This is a team of 2 stars. That's the usual in just about any team in the league. Some feature more high utility players.

So really, how much is Jaylen sacrificing vs others in the league?

If he's really unhappy with his role here, he'll be unhappy with his role in just about any other team in the league. And if the role in his mind is a role where he does everything everytime, I guess he'll be happy playing in a team that goes nowhere.

I don't think Brown is unhappy here, I think this overblown. Just the same, I don't think this talk about sacrificing has much merit. Everyone in the league sacrifices, and I don't think Brown sacrifices much at all vs others in the league.

I mean we just saw him have his best season numbers wise of his career in year 10. It's pretty obvious that if he was the #1 guy he could probably put up bigger numbers then he would as the #2 guy. THAT IS A SACRIFICE. Now, if he was the #1 guy he probably wouldn't win as he has s the #2 guy, so you can argue it's a good trade off, and maybe it is. But it's not an unreasonable thought to have.

[Goldstar88]

Is Jaylen Brown really sacrificing at all?

In what world does he believe he's sacrificing, compared to other star players in the league?

This is a team of 2 stars. That's the usual in just about any team in the league. Some feature more high utility players.

So really, how much is Jaylen sacrificing vs others in the league?

If he's really unhappy with his role here, he'll be unhappy with his role in just about any other team in the league. And if the role in his mind is a role where he does everything everytime, I guess he'll be happy playing in a team that goes nowhere.

I don't think Brown is unhappy here, I think this overblown. Just the same, I don't think this talk about sacrificing has much merit. Everyone in the league sacrifices, and I don't think Brown sacrifices much at all vs others in the league.

JB seems to think he is sacrificing a lot. He has said so many times. I do think he could be the numbers one option on a lot of teams, just not the elite ones.

[Who]

Is Jaylen Brown really sacrificing at all?

In what world does he believe he's sacrificing, compared to other star players in the league?

This is a team of 2 stars. That's the usual in just about any team in the league. Some feature more high utility players.

So really, how much is Jaylen sacrificing vs others in the league?

If he's really unhappy with his role here, he'll be unhappy with his role in just about any other team in the league. And if the role in his mind is a role where he does everything everytime, I guess he'll be happy playing in a team that goes nowhere.

I don't think Brown is unhappy here, I think this overblown. Just the same, I don't think this talk about sacrificing has much merit. Everyone in the league sacrifices, and I don't think Brown sacrifices much at all vs others in the league.

Agreed. This part of JB's personality irritates me.

It is like he wants a medal every time he doesn't get absolutely everything in the world he wants. Doesn't everyone know how unselfish he is? He got only 90-95% of everything instead of 100%? How wonderful am I?

That is reality on any high level basketball team. Sure he can play on a 35-45 win team and he can bump up that extra 5-10% but he'll never play on a contender again. On any contender he will have to sacrifice something ... not a lot but something.

Every other player in the league can do this without needing a frickin' medal or parade through the streets telling him how wonderful he is for sacrificing a small amount. 

[Celtics2021]

I do not buy this story.  JB Is incredibly outspoken, and has no problem airing his grievances in public.  Fights with shoe companies?  He will be loud about it.  Olympic snub? Of course we will hear about it.  League awards he is passed over for?  Yeah, he will complain about that too.  Refs?  Sure, despite multiple fines.  But he will instead send Tracy McGrady to agitate about the Celtics?  No, that is just not his MO.

I am sure he has some grievances.  He probably has some about how he is used on the court, he might have some about someone in the locker room, he probably has some about how the Celtics promote him, and he very likely has some about Boston in general.  For better or worse (and often for the better in my opinion) grievances are what fuels him.  Accordingly, I am sure Brad knows about all of them.  Will Jaylen be traded? Maybe, but it will not be because he forced himself out or just made life unpleasant. 

[celticinorlando]

I do not buy this story.  JB Is incredibly outspoken, and has no problem airing his grievances in public.  Fights with shoe companies?  He will be loud about it.  Olympic snub? Of course we will hear about it.  League awards he is passed over for?  Yeah, he will complain about that too.  Refs?  Sure, despite multiple fines.  But he will instead send Tracy McGrady to agitate about the Celtics?  No, that is just not his MO.

I am sure he has some grievances.  He probably has some about how he is used on the court, he might have some about someone in the locker room, he probably has some about how the Celtics promote him, and he very likely has some about Boston in general.  For better or worse (and often for the better in my opinion) grievances are what fuels him.  Accordingly, I am sure Brad knows about all of them.  Will Jaylen be traded? Maybe, but it will not be because he forced himself out or just made life unpleasant.

So T Mac...his mentor just made it up?  T Mac does not put that out there without Brown knowing.


Someone  fed him the information...Brown or someone in Brown's camp. I have no idea if Brown gets traded. It won't be because of the comments IMO. It will be because Boston needs to reshape their roster and that they get a sense that the JT/JB experiment has run its course.

I have no doubt Brown wants to be the guy on his own team. That is not going to happen in Boston. It will always be JT as the guy.

[Celtics2021]

I do not buy this story.  JB Is incredibly outspoken, and has no problem airing his grievances in public.  Fights with shoe companies?  He will be loud about it.  Olympic snub? Of course we will hear about it.  League awards he is passed over for?  Yeah, he will complain about that too.  Refs?  Sure, despite multiple fines.  But he will instead send Tracy McGrady to agitate about the Celtics?  No, that is just not his MO.

I am sure he has some grievances.  He probably has some about how he is used on the court, he might have some about someone in the locker room, he probably has some about how the Celtics promote him, and he very likely has some about Boston in general.  For better or worse (and often for the better in my opinion) grievances are what fuels him.  Accordingly, I am sure Brad knows about all of them.  Will Jaylen be traded? Maybe, but it will not be because he forced himself out or just made life unpleasant.

So T Mac...his mentor just made it up?  T Mac does not put that out there without Brown knowing.


Someone  fed him the information...Brown or someone in Brown's camp. I have no idea if Brown gets traded. It won't be because of the comments IMO. It will be because Boston needs to reshape their roster and that they get a sense that the JT/JB experiment has run its course.

I have no doubt Brown wants to be the guy on his own team. That is not going to happen in Boston. It will always be JT as the guy.

I am not saying that Brown does not have complaints.  I am sure he does.  I said as much.  I am sure TMac has heard them, repeatedly.  But if you watch the actual podcast, they start by talking about JBs frustration at the foul calls, TMac pivots briefly into the comments that everyone is talking about, and then segues into the tired take that Boston shoots too many 3s.  They do not sound like comments that JB asked TMac to make to stir the pot.  It was more TMac trying to explain Jaylen?s general frustration that has led to his outspoken criticism of the officials.

I am not doubting the part of the story that says JB would like some things to be different in Boston.  I am sure that is true.  What I am doubting is that those issues JB has outweigh the good parts of his situation in Boston, such that he is trying to force, or at least lubricate his way out, and that TMac?s comments were part of this plan.

[Vermont Green]

I am not doubting the part of the story that says JB would like some things to be different in Boston.  I am sure that is true.  What I am doubting is that those issues JB has outweigh the good parts of his situation in Boston, such that he is trying to force, or at least lubricate his way out, and that TMac's comments were part of this plan.

To me, this is the key point.  This may or may not have been intentional, but what all this has done is put the league on notice that maybe BOS will trade Brown.  Teams will be more likely to call BOS to inquire about Brown because of all this.  Hard to know if Brown actually wants to be traded or not, based on all the contradictory chatter going on.

[Goldstar88]

Is Jaylen Brown really sacrificing at all?

In what world does he believe he's sacrificing, compared to other star players in the league?

This is a team of 2 stars. That's the usual in just about any team in the league. Some feature more high utility players.

So really, how much is Jaylen sacrificing vs others in the league?

If he's really unhappy with his role here, he'll be unhappy with his role in just about any other team in the league. And if the role in his mind is a role where he does everything everytime, I guess he'll be happy playing in a team that goes nowhere.

I don't think Brown is unhappy here, I think this overblown. Just the same, I don't think this talk about sacrificing has much merit. Everyone in the league sacrifices, and I don't think Brown sacrifices much at all vs others in the league.

Agreed. This part of JB's personality irritates me.

It is like he wants a medal every time he doesn't get absolutely everything in the world he wants. Doesn't everyone know how unselfish he is? He got only 90-95% of everything instead of 100%? How wonderful am I?

That is reality on any high level basketball team. Sure he can play on a 35-45 win team and he can bump up that extra 5-10% but he'll never play on a contender again. On any contender he will have to sacrifice something ... not a lot but something.

Every other player in the league can do this without needing a frickin' medal or parade through the streets telling him how wonderful he is for sacrificing a small amount.

I agree.

[Phantom255x]

I side with Jaylen on this tweet. Fried him 

https://x.com/FCHWPO/status/2052443678380048708

[jambr380]

I am not doubting the part of the story that says JB would like some things to be different in Boston.  I am sure that is true.  What I am doubting is that those issues JB has outweigh the good parts of his situation in Boston, such that he is trying to force, or at least lubricate his way out, and that TMac's comments were part of this plan.

To me, this is the key point.  This may or may not have been intentional, but what all this has done is put the league on notice that maybe BOS will trade Brown.  Teams will be more likely to call BOS to inquire about Brown because of all this.  Hard to know if Brown actually wants to be traded or not, based on all the contradictory chatter going on.

I don't know whether or not what TMac said was done intentionally from Brown's side; but if I were Brown, and a person that I confide in and trust came out with a bunch of made up nonsense just for content, then I would be very upset.

TMac may just be looking for attention, but he is also risking breaking a bond with somebody he is close to by casually disclosing untrue information that could be damaging to JB, the Celtics organization, and the fanbase.

[Goldstar88]

I side with Jaylen on this tweet. Fried him 

https://x.com/FCHWPO/status/2052443678380048708

Idk, man. The SAS has responded. 

Bro, I got love for you so I?m not going to even go there. Folks are looking out for you and you don?t even realize it. Here you are making this kind of noise and it hasn?t even been a week since you lost a 3-1 lead. You?re HOME. A champion and a Finals MVP saying his favorite season is the season he?s home in the FIRST ROUND. This is not about ME. It?s about YOU?.and what YOU SAID. Enjoy your offseason.@stephenasmith

[Phantom255x]

I side with Jaylen on this tweet. Fried him 

https://x.com/FCHWPO/status/2052443678380048708

Idk, man. The SAS has responded. 

Bro, I got love for you so I?m not going to even go there. Folks are looking out for you and you don?t even realize it. Here you are making this kind of noise and it hasn?t even been a week since you lost a 3-1 lead. You?re HOME. A champion and a Finals MVP saying his favorite season is the season he?s home in the FIRST ROUND. This is not about ME. It?s about YOU?.and what YOU SAID. Enjoy your offseason.@stephenasmith

Dang... that's actually a good and mature response 

I remember they did a podcast together after the 2024 Finals, because Jaylen was irked at him back then with the "state your source" post too.

[Celtics2021]

I side with Jaylen on this tweet. Fried him 

https://x.com/FCHWPO/status/2052443678380048708

Idk, man. The SAS has responded. 

Bro, I got love for you so I?m not going to even go there. Folks are looking out for you and you don?t even realize it. Here you are making this kind of noise and it hasn?t even been a week since you lost a 3-1 lead. You?re HOME. A champion and a Finals MVP saying his favorite season is the season he?s home in the FIRST ROUND. This is not about ME. It?s about YOU?.and what YOU SAID. Enjoy your offseason.@stephenasmith

Dang... that's actually a good and mature response 

I remember they did a podcast together after the 2024 Finals, because Jaylen was irked at him back then with the "state your source" post too.

I actually think that response is indicative of the problem of SAS mindset, and that he has helped promulgate into American sports fans.  Prior to last week, many on this board were saying this had been one of their favorite seasons in many years, some remembering the 2016-2017 fondly.  Jaylen pretty much agreed with that sentiment.  Yes, they fell short of their goal, but should that erase the last 6 months for him or us?  No.  It was a fun season to watch.  We liked the effort and growth from all the players, JB included.  Jaylen is saying THE EXACT SAME THING.  That Stephen A Smith, and people who are lapping up his rhetoric, cannot understand that is a loss for them all.  It was a season that brought me a lot of joy in what was a very tough fall and winter for my family, and I hope to look back on it fondly.