Time for a change?

[Neurotic Guy]

My prediction for this offseason

1. Hauser + pick(s) for Gafford OR Isaiah Stewart and fit in with TPE

2. MLE to sign Coby White, Sexton, Grimes or Simons

3. Add a depth big with the veteran minimum (could be Garza reunion)

4. Jaylen, White, PP, Queta, Tatum, Baylor, Hugo, Harper stay put

I still think Cenac is a project and won't be "immediate help", more an end of bench guy for this next season.

The MLE options for a big are Porzingis, Timelord or Mamu, but I think they are gonna have to choose 1 thing with the MLE. Guard/wing or center. They'll probably use it on guard/wing, and trade for a center. Hauser will be traded regardless IMO, even if it's to just offload some money and gain more space to utilize.

Just looking at the stacking up of bigs we're seeing in SA and OKC, my vote is 100% big.

[Goldstar88]

Boston continued to discuss Brown trades on Tuesday, two sources familiar with the talks tell Sports Illustrated. Many of the conversations were initiated by rival teams, sources say. Some were brokered by the Celtics. They are hunting a big man, says a rival executive. ?And they are willing to trade [Brown] to get it.
Sports Illustrated

I?d probably do something centered around Sengun. Have no interest in Gobert. He is too old and makes a lot of money.

[Goldstar88]

On the second night of the 2026 NBA Draft, ESPN's Shams Charania reported that the Celtics are "actively engaged" in trade talks surrounding Brown.

"There is a sense of purpose from teams around the league that they feel from the Celtics in these conversations," Charania said. "That does not mean, though, that a deal is guaranteed because Jaylen Brown does have three years left on his contract. ... His status is very much up in the air in Boston."

[celticinorlando]

This is going to drag on for weeks and the end result will be Brown staying. What an absolute mess.

[Goldstar88]

This is going to drag on for weeks and the end result will be Brown staying. What an absolute mess.

Doubt it. Brad is continuing to shop him. I don?t think he can put the toothpaste back in the tube this time.

[Phantom255x]

Windhorst saying the C's feel the need to trade Jaylen in order to get more competitive.

How so?

[angryguy77]

Windhorst saying the C's feel the need to trade Jaylen in order to get more competitive.

How so?

I think it has more to do with the money prohibiting them from putting together a better all around team. I believe you don't have to get equal trade value in a trade for Brown. You need parts that make the team more more rounded. If not parts, you need to get picks that you can flip in a year or get guys. I just don't see a way we can keep 2 max guys together that can't overcome the drawbacks the CBA creates.

If we could duplicate 2024 with roster moves, then yes you keep him, but that's not possible in the foreseeable future.

As I said in another thread, I'm ok to take another year and reload when in a better position for a few years rather than try and keep things the same. Plus getting under the tax one more year gives us more options.

[Neurotic Guy]

This is going to drag on for weeks and the end result will be Brown staying. What an absolute mess.

Maybe.

[Goldstar88]

The Celtics are the only team in the NBA with two super max contracts. With the new CBA they can?t operate this way. This is the main reason they are moving on from Brown. He is not worth a super max contract.

I don?t think it is a matter of if they trade Brown, just a matter of when.

[Neurotic Guy]

The Celtics are the only team in the NBA with two super max contracts. With the new CBA they can?t operate this way. This is the main reason they are moving on from Brown. He is not worth a super max contract.

I wish I could envision a scenario that has the Cs bringing back equal or greater value for JB.
None of the trades here feel right. Giannis was a risk worth taking, but I see nothing else that would be.  Finding ways to supplement the Jays feels like the right path, but I think a trade will happen. And knowing me, it will take about 15 minutes post-trade for me to be psyched about it.

[Goldstar88]

The Celtics are the only team in the NBA with two super max contracts. With the new CBA they can?t operate this way. This is the main reason they are moving on from Brown. He is not worth a super max contract.

I wish I could envision a scenario that has the Cs bringing back equal or greater value for JB.
None of the trades here feel right. Giannis was a risk worth taking, but I see nothing else that would be.  Finding ways to supplement the Jays feels like the right path, but I think a trade will happen. And knowing me, it will take about 15 minutes post-trade for me to be psyched about it.

Yeah, that player would have been Giannis, but Brad dropped the ball. Should have given the Bucks Hugo and Baylor. Even an extra first rounder and/or swap. Huge miscalculation by Stevens.

[Larry for 3]

The Celtics are the only team in the NBA with two super max contracts. With the new CBA they can?t operate this way. This is the main reason they are moving on from Brown. He is not worth a super max contract.

I wish I could envision a scenario that has the Cs bringing back equal or greater value for JB.
None of the trades here feel right. Giannis was a risk worth taking, but I see nothing else that would be.  Finding ways to supplement the Jays feels like the right path, but I think a trade will happen. And knowing me, it will take about 15 minutes post-trade for me to be psyched about it.

Yeah, that player would have been Giannis, but Brad dropped the ball. Should have given the Bucks Hugo and Baylor. Even an extra first rounder and/or swap. Huge miscalculation by Stevens.

I understand your opinion here. But I don?t know if I agree quite yet. We have to let it play out some. I wasn?t really in favor of the Gannis trade. I think he is a time bomb with a serious injury coming. But what do you do now?  I have to take a step back for a few weeks.  It it does not look good I will say.

[Roy H.]

The Celtics are the only team in the NBA with two super max contracts. With the new CBA they can?t operate this way. This is the main reason they are moving on from Brown. He is not worth a super max contract.

I wish I could envision a scenario that has the Cs bringing back equal or greater value for JB.
None of the trades here feel right. Giannis was a risk worth taking, but I see nothing else that would be.  Finding ways to supplement the Jays feels like the right path, but I think a trade will happen. And knowing me, it will take about 15 minutes post-trade for me to be psyched about it.

Yeah, that player would have been Giannis, but Brad dropped the ball. Should have given the Bucks Hugo and Baylor. Even an extra first rounder and/or swap. Huge miscalculation by Stevens.

Brown, Hugo, Scheierman, 2026 #1, 2027 #1, 2031 #1?

If Giannis was healthy we may have gotten a short-term boost, but we'd still over have the MLE to improve the team, and we'd havr handcuffed our future.  And, with all that, we probably wouldn't have been title favorites.

That's how you commit franchise suicide.

Queta / Garza / Williams
Giannis / Walsh
Tatum / Hauser
White / Harper
Pritchard / ?

No picks in 2026, 2027, 2029, 2031

What would your plan have been?  We'd be hardcapped at the first apron, so we'd basically have the MLE and minimum contracts to fix the worst bench in the NBA.

[Donoghus]

The Celtics are the only team in the NBA with two super max contracts. With the new CBA they can?t operate this way. This is the main reason they are moving on from Brown. He is not worth a super max contract.

I wish I could envision a scenario that has the Cs bringing back equal or greater value for JB.
None of the trades here feel right. Giannis was a risk worth taking, but I see nothing else that would be.  Finding ways to supplement the Jays feels like the right path, but I think a trade will happen. And knowing me, it will take about 15 minutes post-trade for me to be psyched about it.

Yeah, that player would have been Giannis, but Brad dropped the ball. Should have given the Bucks Hugo and Baylor. Even an extra first rounder and/or swap. Huge miscalculation by Stevens.

Brown, Hugo, Scheierman, 2026 #1, 2027 #1, 2031 #1?

If Giannis was healthy we may have gotten a short-term boost, but we'd still over have the MLE to improve the team, and we'd havr handcuffed our future.  And, with all that, we probably wouldn't have been title favorites.

That's how you commit franchise suicide.

Queta / Garza / Williams
Giannis / Walsh
Tatum / Hauser
White / Harper
Pritchard / ?

No picks in 2026, 2027, 2029, 2031

What would your plan have been?  We'd be hardcapped at the first apron, so we'd basically have the MLE and minimum contracts to fix the worst bench in the NBA.

Agreed.  Celtics would've been screwed under this scenario.   You reach a point where you gotta walk away from the table.

[No Nickname]

I would be fine with trading Brown for a lesser player as long as it also brought back draft assets.

If we traded Brown to the Pels for Trey Murphy, another player, and two 1sts, then the dealing isn't done.

Give Brad a 1st rounder to play with and he'll do what he's always done:

Al Horford (the reunion tour)
Brogdon (who won 6MOY here)
Porzingis
Jrue Holiday

Sure, someone like Hugo or Baylor or Hauser might also need to be included, but sending Brown to the Pels could land us:

Murphy
Starting PG
Starting C