Time for a change?

[Neurotic Guy]

Riley's got to make this trade, doesn't he? He's 82 years old and watched four different East teams win the title in the past decade and none of them were Miami. He's dropped the ball chasing other big names recently and the team has been stuck in play-in mode for years.  I'd be livid if I was a Heat fan and Giannis got away too.

I mean you can also say Stevens has to make the trade. The Bucks want to squeeze everything they can out of moving GA. The Celtics have the better package to offer, Riley has to work with what he has. Tyler Hero, yuk, I mean he is okay, but no one was talking about him being league MVP last year!! Let's be real, plus their pics are not great, especially future pics if they did land GA, future pics are poo poo! I think the Bucks are using Miami to squeeze More out of the Celtics!

I dont think Brad has to make this trade, but he should. It gives the Celtics the best chance to win another championship. Like you said, The Celtics can offer the best trade package since Miami is refusing to move Bam. If the Celtics are not able to get Giannis this is 100% on Brad. Hopefully he gets it done.

Of course it?s on Brad but bottom line for fans and for Brad is what you are willing to trade to get Giannis. I wont blame Brad for having a limit.  I guess I don?t see much of a difference in value with Brown and Giannis. The superiority of Giannis as an impact player is offset by age and health concern. In a best case scenario, Giannis has 4 years at an All-NBA level, which I think would be viewed as a huge win for Boston. JB?s ceiling is probably 6 years as a top 15-20 player. I?m excited for the trade and the potential for the next couple of seasons but with each asset that?s gone I get less enthusiastic about it. And the idea of including Kuzma makes me a little bit ill. Never liked him and don?t want him. Portis or Turner in the right package (again, not giving away too much) feels better. If Hugo is gone or future firsts it won?t make me happy.  I don?t think Brad stops the deal if it?s Hugo v. Baylor but Portis v Kuzma, I hope he holds the line on that. Regardless, I?ve said before and stand by that if Brad is confident about Giannis that?s good enough for me. But at the end of the day if the package gets uncomfortable, I hope he holds the line and says OK Milwaukee, go ahead and get Herro.

[celticinorlando]

I just do not think they take the Celtics offer. Brown stays put. Brad has to fix the relationship.

They draft at 27 and try to add a center and combo guard somehow.

[No Nickname]

I just do not think they take the Celtics offer. Brown stays put. Brad has to fix the relationship.

They draft at 27 and try to add a center and combo guard somehow.

That's some clever reverse-jinx mojo you've got going on there!

[celticinorlando]

I just do not think they take the Celtics offer. Brown stays put. Brad has to fix the relationship.

They draft at 27 and try to add a center and combo guard somehow.

That's some clever reverse-jinx mojo you've got going on there!

I mean it is a real possibility tho. And I am not trading Brown for just parts. Just keep him at that point.

[Donoghus]

There's some irony that exactly 10 years ago, there was a bunch of anticipation of a trade (lots of Jimmy Butler chatter) heading into the 2016 draft.   Never materialized and Jaylen ended up being the pick and staying put.

Also, pretty sure that was the most active draft night thread we ever had due to the trade talk and the whole glut of guys projected at #3 in what was seen as a 2 person draft (Simmons & Ingram).

[Who]

If we trade for Giannis, I hope we follow that move by dealing Queta somewhere else. Get a piece that better fits.

[Phantom255x]

Celtics have explored a reunion with Timelord, per Stein and Fischer

[smicker16]

If we trade for Giannis, I hope we follow that move by dealing Queta somewhere else. Get a piece that better fits.

Yeah if they do get Giannis what they do to fill out the roster will be very interesting. I wonder if there would be a chance Queta goes in the deal too as an asset back to the Bucks. I would not want to deal Queta just because of the poor fit though. I like Queta but if including him saves you Hugo and/or a pick would that be something people would want? I am pretty torn on that.

I do think if we get Giannis we would also be getting someone else from the Bucks Portis, Kuzma or Turner. Kuzma really does not intrigue me as the positional overlap between him, Giannis and Tatum really does not interest me.

I imagine Brad would have other ideas for who he would want to target but will be interesting if it the Giannis deal ends up happening.

[Neurotic Guy]

If we trade for Giannis, I hope we follow that move by dealing Queta somewhere else. Get a piece that better fits.

I don?t see why Q doesn?t fit. Our only 7 footer. I get playing Giannis and Q together isn?t ideal, but if GA is going to play some center here, I see Q as a great backup. Could you see a lineup with Q, GA, JT, DW/Baylor, PP working? I could see Q developing his shot. He shoots FTs well and I think has shown some shooting ability that could be developed.

[jambr380]

I just do not think they take the Celtics offer. Brown stays put. Brad has to fix the relationship.

They draft at 27 and try to add a center and combo guard somehow.

That's some clever reverse-jinx mojo you've got going on there!

I'm pretty sure he's still going to be saying that we aren't trading Brown even if Giannis is holding up the championship trophy in a Celtics jersey next year. Celticinorlando has been extremely consistent in thinking the Celtics are going to do nothing this offseason

[jambr380]

If we trade for Giannis, I hope we follow that move by dealing Queta somewhere else. Get a piece that better fits.

I don?t see why Q doesn?t fit. Our only 7 footer. I get playing Giannis and Q together isn?t ideal, but if GA is going to play some center here, I see Q as a great backup. Could you see a lineup with Q, GA, JT, DW/Baylor, PP working? I could see Q developing his shot. He shoots FTs well and I think has shown some shooting ability that could be developed.

Yeah, our biggest problem last year was only having one playable big. Giannis will play some Center, but he's not full time at that position. I get that Giannis and Queta aren't the best match together offensively in terms of spreading the floor, but they'd be amazing defensively and we definitely have enough minutes to spread around.

[Roy H.]

If we trade for Giannis, I hope we follow that move by dealing Queta somewhere else. Get a piece that better fits.

I don?t see why Q doesn?t fit. Our only 7 footer. I get playing Giannis and Q together isn?t ideal, but if GA is going to play some center here, I see Q as a great backup. Could you see a lineup with Q, GA, JT, DW/Baylor, PP working? I could see Q developing his shot. He shoots FTs well and I think has shown some shooting ability that could be developed.

It's certainly not ideal for Joe's preferred offense.  That's not ideal for a coach that is poor at making adjustments.  I guess there's a possibility that Queta develops an outside shot like Aron Baynes, but I haven't seen much potential there.

[Neurotic Guy]

I just do not think they take the Celtics offer. Brown stays put. Brad has to fix the relationship.

They draft at 27 and try to add a center and combo guard somehow.

That's some clever reverse-jinx mojo you've got going on there!

I'm pretty sure he's still going to be saying that we aren't trading Brown even if Giannis is holding up the championship trophy in a Celtics jersey next year. Celticinorlando has been extremely consistent in thinking the Celtics are going to do nothing this offseason

In a sense, Orlando is already wrong. I think the smoke is pretty clearly there indicating Brad is at least competing for a blockbuster trade. If it doesn?t happen I don?t think it will be for lack of effort. Bucks get to decide and none of us would want Brad to overpay.

[Neurotic Guy]

If we trade for Giannis, I hope we follow that move by dealing Queta somewhere else. Get a piece that better fits.

I don?t see why Q doesn?t fit. Our only 7 footer. I get playing Giannis and Q together isn?t ideal, but if GA is going to play some center here, I see Q as a great backup. Could you see a lineup with Q, GA, JT, DW/Baylor, PP working? I could see Q developing his shot. He shoots FTs well and I think has shown some shooting ability that could be developed.

It's certainly not ideal for Joe's preferred offense.  That's not ideal for a coach that is poor at making adjustments.  I guess there's a possibility that Queta develops an outside shot like Aron Baynes, but I haven't seen much potential there.

Hah! Looks like a shooter trapped inside a large body to me. I bet he?s shooting 1000 threes a day.  It will be fascinating to see whether Joe can adjust. Adding Giannis as a major offensive cog will force some change and we?ll be able to observe how on target TennS is in his Joe assessment. I fear he and you are spot on with regard to Joe. We?ll see.

[MattyIce]

I just do not think they take the Celtics offer. Brown stays put. Brad has to fix the relationship.

They draft at 27 and try to add a center and combo guard somehow.

who's 1) Brad's with JB cause by this trade speculation or 2) JB with the other issues going on behind the scene....  I don't see #2 being fixed, although as I said after the season ended, he'll give it a shot if he cant get a trade done to his satisfaction