Time for a change?

[Who]

Perk thinks Jaylen Brown is "talking himself out of Boston" with his livestreams. That he is sharing too much. That this will irritate his teammates. Not the front office or ownership but the players.

Perk was saying Jaylen is "breaking the trust" inside the locker room. That if a player was doing that on any of the teams Perk was on, that the players would turn on him. Wouldn't want him around. Wouldn't trust him. Would want him gone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vMh4kTYTEI

About halfway through the video. The 4-5min mark.

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I don't know that Jaylen is saying anything on his livestreams (I don't watch them) that would upset his teammates to that degree. I can see that happening but I don't know that Jaylen has done this.

[jambr380]

It is funny, Naz Reid and D White are complete opposites in an key way.

D White is one of the ultimate connectivity / glue guy players that helps bring other players together and make a team. A player whose impact is greater than his raw stats.

Naz Reid on the other hand is the exact opposite. He does almost nothing in terms of connectivity / glue guy play and is all about himself. A player whose raw stats over-states their actual impact.

Yeah, I want no part of a White for Reid swap. I know some people hate advanced stats, but Derrick White led the East in +/-, had a +9.4 on/off, and was 1st Team All-Defense. And it's not like he's this consistently bad shooter, this was his one bad shooting year in years.

Guys like Reid are a dime a dozen. White is in the small echelon of extremely valuable role players with guys like OG Anunoby and Jaden McDaniels. If we trade White, it isn't going to be out of desperation, it's going to be for a legitimately impressive package.

Also, White's older, but he's only going into his 10th year in the league - same draft as Tatum - so his mileage isn't that of your typical [about to be] 32 year old.

[Phantom255x]

What are people's thoughts on Yves Missi?

[SparzWizard]

Perk thinks Jaylen Brown is "talking himself out of Boston" with his livestreams. That he is sharing too much. That this will irritate his teammates. Not the front office or ownership but the players.

Perk was saying Jaylen is "breaking the trust" inside the locker room. That if a player was doing that on any of the teams Perk was on, that the players would turn on him. Wouldn't want him around. Wouldn't trust him. Would want him gone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vMh4kTYTEI

About halfway through the video. The 4-5min mark.

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I don't know that Jaylen is saying anything on his livestreams (I don't watch them) that would upset his teammates to that degree. I can see that happening but I don't know that Jaylen has done this.

I mean he just indirectly took a shot at Tatum with his livestream comments right after losing Game 7. Couldn't have waited a few days after to do his livestream

[Phantom255x]

I will say though, if Miami does get Giannis, that's gonna become another team in the East with a legit frontcourt (Bam-Giannis, Duren, Mobley-Allen, Embiid, KAT, Davis, Zubac, etc. + maybe Sabonis or someone comes East too). Brad absolutely has to add to the frontcourt, and I'd argue with 2 capable guys alongside Queta. Otherwise, might not matter how the Jays do, they'll get exposed heavily on that end similar to the Sixers series just a few months ago where Embiid dominated. Yeah, Maxey and quicker guards also kill them, it's also easier for them when the frontcourt is trash and there isn't much interior resistance either from them. You think Maxey or these guys are consistently scoring 30+ easily if Porzingis/Horford are also hovering in the paint.

I doubt Miami will be a legit contender with Bam-Giannis, but also what answers do the Celtics have for that duo? Feels like they'd have issues with them. Queta did fairly well in the matchup with Bam last season in those games, but then you add Giannis to the mix. Tough

[Surferdad]

I will say though, if Miami does get Giannis, that's gonna become another team in the East with a legit frontcourt (Bam-Giannis, Duren, Mobley-Allen, Embiid, KAT, Davis, Zubac, etc. + maybe Sabonis or someone comes East too). Brad absolutely has to add to the frontcourt, and I'd argue with 2 capable guys alongside Queta. Otherwise, might not matter how the Jays do, they'll get exposed heavily on that end similar to the Sixers series just a few months ago where Embiid dominated. Yeah, Maxey and quicker guards also kill them, it's also easier for them when the frontcourt is trash and there isn't much interior resistance either from them. You think Maxey or these guys are consistently scoring 30+ easily if Porzingis/Horford are also hovering in the paint.

I doubt Miami will be a legit contender with Bam-Giannis, but also what answers do the Celtics have for that duo? Feels like they'd have issues with them. Queta did fairly well in the matchup with Bam last season in those games, but then you add Giannis to the mix. Tough

This. I think you summarized the central issue of the off-season.

Brad needs to take some risks to stay competitive with the top frontcourts in the East. It is also worth remembering that adding talent to the front court keeps that talent away from EC competitors.

[Goldstar88]

Despite some executives around the league assuming it would be a foregone conclusion that the Bucks would try to flip Brown to another team to get future first-round draft pick compensation as part of a rebuilding effort, it?s not a certainty. If the Celtics indeed acquire Antetokounmpo and Brown ends up going to the Bucks as part of the trade, the Bucks would consider keeping Brown.
-HoopsHype

[celticinorlando]

I am going to be real interested who Brad brings in as FA. That really is going to be the moves he makes this offseason.

Right now, the Cs front court is probably near the bottom of the contenders in the east. It is painfully poor.

My concern is keeping Brown gives him and Joe a license to continue to have an offense that just generates no good looks and shoots poor 3s 50 or 60 times a game. Keeping things as is really is a signal this team is punting on the upcoming season.

The roster is just not good enough even with JT healthy to win the East. I just do not see Brad doing much other than trying to add some role players.

[Who]

I am going to be real interested who Brad brings in as FA. That really is going to be the moves he makes this offseason.

I think it is the TPE rather than FA. I don't think they can get the quality the need in FA. They need another guy in that Pritchard to D White level. They aren't available for MLE money ($15mil). Using the TPE to get a $20-27mil player looks the best path forward.

Which also means giving up Hauser in order to stay below the luxury tax.

[Celtics2021]

I am going to be real interested who Brad brings in as FA. That really is going to be the moves he makes this offseason.

I think it is the TPE rather than FA. I don't think they can get the quality the need in FA. They need another guy in that Pritchard to D White level. They aren't available for MLE money ($15mil). Using the TPE to get a $20-27mil player looks the best path forward.

Which also means giving up Hauser in order to stay below the luxury tax.

I half agree with you Who.  I think we might get a difference maker via a sign-and-trade using the TPE.

[jambr380]

I am going to be real interested who Brad brings in as FA. That really is going to be the moves he makes this offseason.

I think it is the TPE rather than FA. I don't think they can get the quality the need in FA. They need another guy in that Pritchard to D White level. They aren't available for MLE money ($15mil). Using the TPE to get a $20-27mil player looks the best path forward.

Which also means giving up Hauser in order to stay below the luxury tax.

Outside of Trey Murphy, who would that be?

I'd be satisfied breaking that number up into two pieces. Trade Hauser and #27 for Stewart; and sign Simons, Coby White, or Sexton with most of the MLE.

I'm not in the run it back camp, but this would help solidify our rotation. Losing Simons for Vucevic last year was a clear downgrade (but I get we weren't winning anyway), we'd have a viable, tough, rotation level center to pair with Queta, and then Tatum should be back to normal. Definitely a better team than last year.

[Who]

I am going to be real interested who Brad brings in as FA. That really is going to be the moves he makes this offseason.

I think it is the TPE rather than FA. I don't think they can get the quality the need in FA. They need another guy in that Pritchard to D White level. They aren't available for MLE money ($15mil). Using the TPE to get a $20-27mil player looks the best path forward.

Which also means giving up Hauser in order to stay below the luxury tax.

Outside of Trey Murphy, who would that be?

I'd be satisfied breaking that number up into two pieces. Trade Hauser and #27 for Stewart; and sign Simons, Coby White, or Sexton with most of the MLE.

I'm not in the run it back camp, but this would help solidify our rotation. Losing Simons for Vucevic last year was a clear downgrade (but I get we weren't winning anyway), we'd have a viable, tough, rotation level center to pair with Queta, and then Tatum should be back to normal. Definitely a better team than last year.

I don't know.

There were a couple of centers who were identified as possibilities -- Myles Turner, Nic Claxton. Oh maybe Walker Kessler was the 3rd but Utah are offering him more money so he is out now.

I haven't seen many perimeter guys identified. Dejounte Murray. I wonder if they could get Jalen Suggs from ORL (for TPE + picks) if ORL decided to move on there. DeMar DeRozan from SAC but that is a short term fix rather than a long term addition. Gives BOS a 3rd scorer to help out the offense. Cam Johnson is a good player but played poorly for DEN. He might be available.

I half agree with you Who.  I think we might get a difference maker via a sign-and-trade using the TPE.

Oh, that is interesting. Anybody in mind?

To continue on from the response above. Maybe Norm Powell. He could be a 3rd scorer behind JT and JB. A starting guard alongside D White. Keep Pritchard in the 6th man role.

Ben Mathurin would be a gamble given his uneven development so far but good upside there. Rui Hachimura could be interesting.