Time for a change?

[Who]

I see talk about Milwaukee moving JB after they acquire him or do a three way. But do they WANT to get bad?

Let's face it, the draft and draft lottery are changing. It could make being bad last a much longer time with some less than great lottery luck.

And, having JB paired with Turner, Portis, Porter Jr., Rollins, Thomas, Trent and some draft picks, might be a pretty decent squad with Brown as a #1 given what Jaylen just did with the crew he had in Boston.

I am not sure the Bucks ownership group want to get irrelevantly bad for a long time and Brown would seem to be the exact type of locker room leader the Bucks new coach, Taylor Jenkins, would love to have to bring the type of team culture and togetherness he preaches.

If I was MIL, and I was trading Giannis, I would not want Brown back as the main piece.  It is a timeline thing to me.  If you can't win with Giannis and this supporting cast, you probably are not with Brown either, at least not right away.  And Brown is only a couple of years younger.  It may extend the timeline a little, but not that much.

That is why to me, it makes more sense for MIL to get young players and draft picks back for Giannis.  A classic "blow it up".  Hope you get lucky and draft the next Giannis and build around that player.  To me, Brown makes more sense for a team that has been rebuilding but needs a key piece added.  Atlanta, Portland, maybe even NOP are teams that make more sense to want to bring on Brown, and teams that might have pieces that fit with the MIL rebuild.

Milwaukee wants to keep Giannis. They don't want to rebuild. They are only willing to trade Giannis because Giannis won't sign a contract extension. If we would sign a new contract, they'd keep the team together.

So swapping out Giannis for Jaylen is a continuation of that plan to keep the group together and try to win with their guys which is their 1st choice plan.

They are not trading Giannis because the team thinks this is the end of the road for this group but because Giannis won't commit to staying with the team. They are happy to continue with this group if Giannis will commit.

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I agree with you. I'd blow it up. I'd blow it up regardless of whether Giannis wants to stay or not. I wouldn't even give him the option of staying.

Just ... that isn't what their ownership / GM are thinking.

[Vermont Green]

I see talk about Milwaukee moving JB after they acquire him or do a three way. But do they WANT to get bad?

Let's face it, the draft and draft lottery are changing. It could make being bad last a much longer time with some less than great lottery luck.

And, having JB paired with Turner, Portis, Porter Jr., Rollins, Thomas, Trent and some draft picks, might be a pretty decent squad with Brown as a #1 given what Jaylen just did with the crew he had in Boston.

I am not sure the Bucks ownership group want to get irrelevantly bad for a long time and Brown would seem to be the exact type of locker room leader the Bucks new coach, Taylor Jenkins, would love to have to bring the type of team culture and togetherness he preaches.

If I was MIL, and I was trading Giannis, I would not want Brown back as the main piece.  It is a timeline thing to me.  If you can't win with Giannis and this supporting cast, you probably are not with Brown either, at least not right away.  And Brown is only a couple of years younger.  It may extend the timeline a little, but not that much.

That is why to me, it makes more sense for MIL to get young players and draft picks back for Giannis.  A classic "blow it up".  Hope you get lucky and draft the next Giannis and build around that player.  To me, Brown makes more sense for a team that has been rebuilding but needs a key piece added.  Atlanta, Portland, maybe even NOP are teams that make more sense to want to bring on Brown, and teams that might have pieces that fit with the MIL rebuild.

Milwaukee wants to keep Giannis. They don't want to rebuild. They are only willing to trade Giannis because Giannis won't sign a contract extension. If we would sign a new contract, they'd keep the team together.

So swapping out Giannis for Jaylen is a continuation of that plan to keep the group together and try to win with their guys which is their 1st choice plan.

They are not trading Giannis because the team thinks this is the end of the road for this group but because Giannis won't commit to staying with the team. They are happy to continue with this group if Giannis will commit.

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I agree with you. I'd blow it up. I'd blow it up regardless of whether Giannis wants to stay or not. I wouldn't even give him the option of staying.

Just ... that isn't what their ownership / GM are thinking.

I don't know about that Who.  You could be right about what MIL is thinking, but the start of this post was based on reporting that MIL did not want to keep Brown and would move him to a 3rd team.  This reporting was indicating that MIL is thinking just the opposite of you are saying.  Or if they are thinking about keeping this group together but replacing Giannis with another star because he won't extend,  that star isn't Brown, based on the reporting.

I think it is pretty clear that this MIL team is at the end of their road, even with Giannis.  They botched several deals and now have a bad roster and substantial dead cap from the Lillard fiasco.  I don't think there is any player that you could put with Turner, Kuzma, and Porter that is going to make that team a winner.  And they are short on picks the next few seasons.  This team is going nowhere.  I would want out too if I was Giannis.  I don't expect the #10 in this draft to change things much for them.

[Goldstar88]

I see talk about Milwaukee moving JB after they acquire him or do a three way. But do they WANT to get bad?

Let's face it, the draft and draft lottery are changing. It could make being bad last a much longer time with some less than great lottery luck.

And, having JB paired with Turner, Portis, Porter Jr., Rollins, Thomas, Trent and some draft picks, might be a pretty decent squad with Brown as a #1 given what Jaylen just did with the crew he had in Boston.

I am not sure the Bucks ownership group want to get irrelevantly bad for a long time and Brown would seem to be the exact type of locker room leader the Bucks new coach, Taylor Jenkins, would love to have to bring the type of team culture and togetherness he preaches.

If I was MIL, and I was trading Giannis, I would not want Brown back as the main piece.  It is a timeline thing to me.  If you can't win with Giannis and this supporting cast, you probably are not with Brown either, at least not right away.  And Brown is only a couple of years younger.  It may extend the timeline a little, but not that much.

That is why to me, it makes more sense for MIL to get young players and draft picks back for Giannis.  A classic "blow it up".  Hope you get lucky and draft the next Giannis and build around that player.  To me, Brown makes more sense for a team that has been rebuilding but needs a key piece added.  Atlanta, Portland, maybe even NOP are teams that make more sense to want to bring on Brown, and teams that might have pieces that fit with the MIL rebuild.

Milwaukee wants to keep Giannis. They don't want to rebuild. They are only willing to trade Giannis because Giannis won't sign a contract extension. If we would sign a new contract, they'd keep the team together.

So swapping out Giannis for Jaylen is a continuation of that plan to keep the group together and try to win with their guys which is their 1st choice plan.

They are not trading Giannis because the team thinks this is the end of the road for this group but because Giannis won't commit to staying with the team. They are happy to continue with this group if Giannis will commit.

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I agree with you. I'd blow it up. I'd blow it up regardless of whether Giannis wants to stay or not. I wouldn't even give him the option of staying.

Just ... that isn't what their ownership / GM are thinking.

A Milwaukee Bucks insider said on the Radio recently that if the Bucks trade Giannis they would want a young star player to build around and a boat load of picks. If a trade was made for Brown they believe he would be moved to a 3rd team for said young star such as a Jalen Johnson or Paolo Banchero. They are  not interested in keeping Brown and view Giannis as significantly better considering he is a two time MVP, 10x All-star, and 7x All-NBA first team. Giannis is also not much older than JB is.

[Goldstar88]

Giannis Antetokounmpo's Next Team per Kalshi:

Miami:45%
Boston:35%

[slightly biased bias fan]

For me a Giannis trade that makes sense would be:

Celtics

Incoming: Giannis

Outgoing: Brown, Hauser


Bucks

Incoming: Henderson, Grant, Camara, 2028-30 Bucks 1 round picks returned

Outgoing: Giannis


Trail Blazers

Incoming: Brown, Hauser

Outgoing: Henderson, Grant, Camara, 2028-30 Bucks 1 round picks returned

[Goldstar88]

For me a Giannis trade that makes sense would be:

Celtics

Incoming: Giannis

Outgoing: Brown, Hauser


Bucks

Incoming: Henderson, Grant, Camara, 2028-30 Bucks 1 round picks returned

Outgoing: Giannis


Trail Blazers

Incoming: Brown, Hauser

Outgoing: Henderson, Grant, Camara, 2028-30 Bucks 1 round picks returned

Seems as though the likely landing spots for JB are Portland, Houston, and Atlanta. If I?m the Bucks I?d probably try to pry away Sengun and either Thompson or Jabari Smith Jr from the Rockets. Also feel like a package centered around Jalen Johnson would be better than anything Portland has to offer not named Deni Avdija .

I?d also like for the Celtics to get Portis from Milwaukee.