Shams: Butler Prefers A Trade Out Of Miami By Trade Deadline (Update: GSW)

[Goldstar88]

I just don't understand Butler's actions.  Why put himself in a position to get suspended, losing millions of dollars in the process?

Spo gave him a chance by continuously starting him. He played with zero effort. Now he?s insulted when being relegated to the bench. What exactly does he want? He?s showing the whole NBA his true character.

Can?t believe people wanted to trade Jaylen for Buckets

The history with Buckets is there? Pretty much every day he?s had with the team has ended in tears and discord like this. I wouldn?t touch him with a 10 foot pole.

Idk, man. I think Jimmy would have played better defense than that on Thompson. 

[ozgod]

I just don't understand Butler's actions.  Why put himself in a position to get suspended, losing millions of dollars in the process?

Spo gave him a chance by continuously starting him. He played with zero effort. Now he?s insulted when being relegated to the bench. What exactly does he want? He?s showing the whole NBA his true character.

Can?t believe people wanted to trade Jaylen for Buckets

The history with Buckets is there? Pretty much every day he?s had with the team has ended in tears and discord like this. I wouldn?t touch him with a 10 foot pole.

Idk, man. I think Jimmy would have played better defense than that on Thompson. 

Assuming he?d be playing at all and not injured

[SparzWizard]

I just don't understand Butler's actions.  Why put himself in a position to get suspended, losing millions of dollars in the process?

Spo gave him a chance by continuously starting him. He played with zero effort. Now he?s insulted when being relegated to the bench. What exactly does he want? He?s showing the whole NBA his true character.

Can?t believe people wanted to trade Jaylen for Buckets

The history with Buckets is there? Pretty much every day he?s had with the team has ended in tears and discord like this. I wouldn?t touch him with a 10 foot pole.

Idk, man. I think Jimmy would have played better defense than that on Thompson. 

Jimmy sounds like he just wants to win basketball games, a new environment that'll make him happy. Does he want to come to Boston? Willing to trade JB for him but we need another player back and some picks 

[Goldstar88]

I just don't understand Butler's actions.  Why put himself in a position to get suspended, losing millions of dollars in the process?

Spo gave him a chance by continuously starting him. He played with zero effort. Now he?s insulted when being relegated to the bench. What exactly does he want? He?s showing the whole NBA his true character.

Can?t believe people wanted to trade Jaylen for Buckets

The history with Buckets is there? Pretty much every day he?s had with the team has ended in tears and discord like this. I wouldn?t touch him with a 10 foot pole.

Idk, man. I think Jimmy would have played better defense than that on Thompson. 

Assuming he?d be playing at all and not injured

Jimmys not injured, he?s just grumpy. 

[Muzzy66]

I just don't understand Butler's actions.  Why put himself in a position to get suspended, losing millions of dollars in the process?

Spo gave him a chance by continuously starting him. He played with zero effort. Now he?s insulted when being relegated to the bench. What exactly does he want? He?s showing the whole NBA his true character.

Can?t believe people wanted to trade Jaylen for Buckets

The history with Buckets is there? Pretty much every day he?s had with the team has ended in tears and discord like this. I wouldn?t touch him with a 10 foot pole.

Idk, man. I think Jimmy would have played better defense than that on Thompson. 

Jimmy sounds like he just wants to win basketball games, a new environment that'll make him happy. Does he want to come to Boston? Willing to trade JB for him but we need another player back and some picks 

Trading JB for butler is insane Butler is a whiny little sook who is old, is always injured, plays with 30% effort in the regular season and seems to butt heads with people everywhere he goes.  Don't want him anywhere near this team. 

[SparzWizard]

I just don't understand Butler's actions.  Why put himself in a position to get suspended, losing millions of dollars in the process?

Spo gave him a chance by continuously starting him. He played with zero effort. Now he?s insulted when being relegated to the bench. What exactly does he want? He?s showing the whole NBA his true character.

Can?t believe people wanted to trade Jaylen for Buckets

The history with Buckets is there? Pretty much every day he?s had with the team has ended in tears and discord like this. I wouldn?t touch him with a 10 foot pole.

Idk, man. I think Jimmy would have played better defense than that on Thompson. 

Jimmy sounds like he just wants to win basketball games, a new environment that'll make him happy. Does he want to come to Boston? Willing to trade JB for him but we need another player back and some picks 

Trading JB for butler is insane Butler is a whiny little sook who is old, is always injured, plays with 30% effort in the regular season and seems to butt heads with people everywhere he goes.  Don't want him anywhere near this team.

It sounds more like Miami is just disrespecting Jimmy. Them saying Jimmy isn't starting and Haywood Highsmith of all people is starting over him is basically the Heat punishing Jimmy.

But Jimmy does seem to play hard on offense and defense. Maybe just needs a change in environment. I'd do the trade but we need a king's ransom back and maybe get a third team involved lol.

[Muzzy66]

I just don't understand Butler's actions.  Why put himself in a position to get suspended, losing millions of dollars in the process?

Spo gave him a chance by continuously starting him. He played with zero effort. Now he?s insulted when being relegated to the bench. What exactly does he want? He?s showing the whole NBA his true character.

Can?t believe people wanted to trade Jaylen for Buckets

The history with Buckets is there? Pretty much every day he?s had with the team has ended in tears and discord like this. I wouldn?t touch him with a 10 foot pole.

Idk, man. I think Jimmy would have played better defense than that on Thompson. 

First he would need to actually suit up - which he hasn't been doing a lot of lately.

Then he actually needs to be in the mood to play, which seems to happen when he feels like it. 

And thirdly he would have to get along with the people on the roster, otherwise he'll create lockerroom issues and destroy team chemistry.  The man doesn't even show respect to Pat Riley, good luck getting him to listen to Joe Mazulla.

[Goldstar88]

I just don't understand Butler's actions.  Why put himself in a position to get suspended, losing millions of dollars in the process?

Spo gave him a chance by continuously starting him. He played with zero effort. Now he?s insulted when being relegated to the bench. What exactly does he want? He?s showing the whole NBA his true character.

Can?t believe people wanted to trade Jaylen for Buckets

The history with Buckets is there? Pretty much every day he?s had with the team has ended in tears and discord like this. I wouldn?t touch him with a 10 foot pole.

Idk, man. I think Jimmy would have played better defense than that on Thompson. 

First he would need to actually suit up - which he hasn't been doing a lot of lately.

Then he actually needs to be in the mood to play, which seems to happen when he feels like it. 

And thirdly he would have to get along with the people on the roster, otherwise he'll create lockerroom issues and destroy team chemistry.  The man doesn't even show respect to Pat Riley, good luck getting him to listen to Joe Mazulla.

I think he?s just saving himself for the postseason. Playoff Jimmy is real. 

[Muzzy66]

I just don't understand Butler's actions.  Why put himself in a position to get suspended, losing millions of dollars in the process?

Spo gave him a chance by continuously starting him. He played with zero effort. Now he?s insulted when being relegated to the bench. What exactly does he want? He?s showing the whole NBA his true character.

Can?t believe people wanted to trade Jaylen for Buckets

The history with Buckets is there? Pretty much every day he?s had with the team has ended in tears and discord like this. I wouldn?t touch him with a 10 foot pole.

Idk, man. I think Jimmy would have played better defense than that on Thompson. 

Jimmy sounds like he just wants to win basketball games, a new environment that'll make him happy. Does he want to come to Boston? Willing to trade JB for him but we need another player back and some picks 

Trading JB for butler is insane Butler is a whiny little sook who is old, is always injured, plays with 30% effort in the regular season and seems to butt heads with people everywhere he goes.  Don't want him anywhere near this team.

It sounds more like Miami is just disrespecting Jimmy. Them saying Jimmy isn't starting and Haywood Highsmith of all people is starting over him is basically the Heat punishing Jimmy.

But Jimmy does seem to play hard on offense and defense. Maybe just needs a change in environment. I'd do the trade but we need a king's ransom back and maybe get a third team involved lol.

Disrespecting him?  Pat Riley called him out because he was talking smack about other teams/players while he was busy sitting on the bench, and because he never plays hard in the regular season.  Those are very fair and legitimate criticisms coming from one of the most respected personalities in NBA history - and instead of taking ownership and accepting the criticism he jumped up and down like a whiny little girl and sooked in the corner.

Jimmy Butler has an amplified version of Marcus Smart syndrome. He thinks he's far bigger and more valuable then he actually is.   Butler in his prime was an all-star who believed he was a superstar - I can live with that.  The problem is that now he's 35 years old, he hasn't played 65+ games since 2018, hasn't played a playoff game since 2022 and hasn't made an all-star team since 2021 - and yet he still thinks he's a top tier superstar who needs to be worshipped and have his feet kissed.   

Butler still has value in this league as a #2 - #3 scoring option who is capable of having big clutch moments, but for that value to materialise itself he needs to accept that he's no longer the player he once was, and has to show a willingness to take a step back, accept a reduced role, sacrifice some of that superstar treatment.  At this point in time his ego is clearly too big to allow him to do that, and that makes him a problem.

And unlike Butler, Jaylen Brown has shown he can step up in championship situations and has a ring and a finals MVP to show for it.  The last time Butler made the NBA finals he choked like Justin Beiber at a Diddy party. 

[Muzzy66]

I just don't understand Butler's actions.  Why put himself in a position to get suspended, losing millions of dollars in the process?

Spo gave him a chance by continuously starting him. He played with zero effort. Now he?s insulted when being relegated to the bench. What exactly does he want? He?s showing the whole NBA his true character.

Can?t believe people wanted to trade Jaylen for Buckets

The history with Buckets is there? Pretty much every day he?s had with the team has ended in tears and discord like this. I wouldn?t touch him with a 10 foot pole.

Idk, man. I think Jimmy would have played better defense than that on Thompson. 

First he would need to actually suit up - which he hasn't been doing a lot of lately.

Then he actually needs to be in the mood to play, which seems to happen when he feels like it. 

And thirdly he would have to get along with the people on the roster, otherwise he'll create lockerroom issues and destroy team chemistry.  The man doesn't even show respect to Pat Riley, good luck getting him to listen to Joe Mazulla.

I think he?s just saving himself for the postseason. Playoff Jimmy is real. 

The whole 'playoff Jimmy' tagline is complete nonsense. 

In 14 NBA seasons Butler has had only two great playoff runs - in 21/22 and 22/23.  And he still got outplayed by Jayson Tatum in both of them.

Since then he's missed 32% of his regular season games, hasn't played a single playoff game, and has done nothing but run his mouth.  The man is cooked, but can't accept it.

[Goldstar88]

I just don't understand Butler's actions.  Why put himself in a position to get suspended, losing millions of dollars in the process?

Spo gave him a chance by continuously starting him. He played with zero effort. Now he?s insulted when being relegated to the bench. What exactly does he want? He?s showing the whole NBA his true character.

Can?t believe people wanted to trade Jaylen for Buckets

The history with Buckets is there? Pretty much every day he?s had with the team has ended in tears and discord like this. I wouldn?t touch him with a 10 foot pole.

Idk, man. I think Jimmy would have played better defense than that on Thompson. 

First he would need to actually suit up - which he hasn't been doing a lot of lately.

Then he actually needs to be in the mood to play, which seems to happen when he feels like it. 

And thirdly he would have to get along with the people on the roster, otherwise he'll create lockerroom issues and destroy team chemistry.  The man doesn't even show respect to Pat Riley, good luck getting him to listen to Joe Mazulla.

I think he?s just saving himself for the postseason. Playoff Jimmy is real. 

The whole 'playoff Jimmy' tagline is complete nonsense. 

In 14 NBA seasons Butler has had only two great playoff runs - in 21/22 and 22/23.  And he still got outplayed by Jayson Tatum in both of them.

Since then he's missed 32% of his regular season games, hasn't played a single playoff game, and has done nothing but run his mouth.  The man is cooked, but can't accept it.

Idk, man. Last year Playoff Jimmy averaged 27pts, 6rebs, 6ast, 2stls with shooting splits of 47/36/80. 

[Phantom255x]

I just don't understand Butler's actions.  Why put himself in a position to get suspended, losing millions of dollars in the process?

Spo gave him a chance by continuously starting him. He played with zero effort. Now he?s insulted when being relegated to the bench. What exactly does he want? He?s showing the whole NBA his true character.

Can?t believe people wanted to trade Jaylen for Buckets

The history with Buckets is there? Pretty much every day he?s had with the team has ended in tears and discord like this. I wouldn?t touch him with a 10 foot pole.

Idk, man. I think Jimmy would have played better defense than that on Thompson. 

Jimmy sounds like he just wants to win basketball games, a new environment that'll make him happy. Does he want to come to Boston? Willing to trade JB for him but we need another player back and some picks 

Trading JB for butler is insane Butler is a whiny little sook who is old, is always injured, plays with 30% effort in the regular season and seems to butt heads with people everywhere he goes.  Don't want him anywhere near this team.

It sounds more like Miami is just disrespecting Jimmy. Them saying Jimmy isn't starting and Haywood Highsmith of all people is starting over him is basically the Heat punishing Jimmy.

But Jimmy does seem to play hard on offense and defense. Maybe just needs a change in environment. I'd do the trade but we need a king's ransom back and maybe get a third team involved lol.

Disrespecting him?  Pat Riley called him out because he was talking smack about other teams/players while he was busy sitting on the bench, and because he never plays hard in the regular season.  Those are very fair and legitimate criticisms coming from one of the most respected personalities in NBA history - and instead of taking ownership and accepting the criticism he jumped up and down like a whiny little girl and sooked in the corner.

Jimmy Butler has an amplified version of Marcus Smart syndrome. He thinks he's far bigger and more valuable then he actually is.   Butler in his prime was an all-star who believed he was a superstar - I can live with that.  The problem is that now he's 35 years old, he hasn't played 65+ games since 2018, hasn't played a playoff game since 2022 and hasn't made an all-star team since 2021 - and yet he still thinks he's a top tier superstar who needs to be worshipped and have his feet kissed.   

Butler still has value in this league as a #2 - #3 scoring option who is capable of having big clutch moments, but for that value to materialise itself he needs to accept that he's no longer the player he once was, and has to show a willingness to take a step back, accept a reduced role, sacrifice some of that superstar treatment.  At this point in time his ego is clearly too big to allow him to do that, and that makes him a problem.

And unlike Butler, Jaylen Brown has shown he can step up in championship situations and has a ring and a finals MVP to show for it.  The last time Butler made the NBA finals he choked like Justin Beiber at a Diddy party.

[Who]

I just don't understand Butler's actions.  Why put himself in a position to get suspended, losing millions of dollars in the process?

He wants to make himself as difficult to deal with as possible in order to force a trade out of there. He can get more money from a long term extension (with an extra year) than he will lose from these suspensions or playing it out until the summer and looking for a sign and trade.

It is a rational self serving strategy.

[Roy H.]

I just don't understand Butler's actions.  Why put himself in a position to get suspended, losing millions of dollars in the process?

He wants to make himself as difficult to deal with as possible in order to force a trade out of there. He can get more money from a long term extension (with an extra year) than he will lose from these suspensions or playing it out until the summer and looking for a sign and trade.

It is a rational self serving strategy.

But at this point he's going to get traded.  All he's doing now is costing himself money.

[johnnygreen]

Butler has burned bridges everywhere he has been. Does a team want to put assets together to trade for a 35 year old player making $49M, and who has a player option next season? Butler will hold the next team hostage to get an extension too. Does the next team also want to give a then 36 year old Butler an extension that will be $50M+ for the next 3 or so seasons? Any team that trades for him is destined for failure.