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Re: NBA Season 2024-25
« Reply #345 on: November 21, 2024, 10:36:57 PM »

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Joel Embiid claps back at Maxey, wasn't pleased who was leaking those things.

Tensions grow in Philly

Paul George meanwhile just did a podcast talking about it too.

Like this is hilarious lol. What a mess in Philly.

And the sad thing is, Embiid seems to care more about the social media and wondering who leaked the meeting information rather than actually playing games and winning  ::)

Players should never ever be doing podcasts like the one Paul George did here In the middle of the season. It should be written into their contracts. I don?t care if Tom Brady calls into a show once a week and does twenty minutes of empty platitudes and staying prepared, but this discussing active team issues is ridiculous.

Re: NBA Season 2024-25
« Reply #346 on: November 22, 2024, 01:19:28 AM »

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Orlando with the upset tonight, nice! LAL's first home loss of the season


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Re: NBA Season 2024-25
« Reply #347 on: November 22, 2024, 01:32:43 AM »

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Joel Embiid claps back at Maxey, wasn't pleased who was leaking those things.

Tensions grow in Philly

Paul George meanwhile just did a podcast talking about it too.

Like this is hilarious lol. What a mess in Philly.

And the sad thing is, Embiid seems to care more about the social media and wondering who leaked the meeting information rather than actually playing games and winning  ::)

It's the hallmark of a narcissist

Re: NBA Season 2024-25
« Reply #348 on: November 22, 2024, 02:02:04 AM »

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The Bucks are actually starting to gain some momentum. They are still 6-9 but now up to the 10th seed (play-in range) and the way the East is set up, they are a winning streak away from basically vaulting to a Top-5 spot.

Sixers are doomed though.

Idk about the Pacers, I thought they'd be a Top-5 seed but they just look very inconsistent and it's the same with Haliburton. Hard to gauge them.

Cleveland, New York and Boston seem to be the rightful Top-3 and I view those two as our biggest threats in the East currently. Originally thought it'd be NY, IND and PHI (if healthy)

Especially long term I see the Orlando Magic as our biggest threat. There are a couple of very stong defensive teams right now: OKC, Orlando, Houston and Golden State. Of these teams, OKC (SGA, J-Dub, Holmgren) and Orlando (Banchero, Wagner) have reliable offensive weapons to cause serious problems.

Cleveland and New York are strong teams, but our versatility will be decisive as both of them have weaknesses to exploit. Cleveland: Garland and Mitchell small guards, match-up problems. New York: Brunson bad defender and Towns weak rim protector.

Something controversial perhaps to discuss: in 2025, Banchero/Wagner > Tatum/Brown
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Re: NBA Season 2024-25
« Reply #349 on: November 22, 2024, 05:50:51 AM »

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The Bucks are actually starting to gain some momentum. They are still 6-9 but now up to the 10th seed (play-in range) and the way the East is set up, they are a winning streak away from basically vaulting to a Top-5 spot.

Sixers are doomed though.

Idk about the Pacers, I thought they'd be a Top-5 seed but they just look very inconsistent and it's the same with Haliburton. Hard to gauge them.

Cleveland, New York and Boston seem to be the rightful Top-3 and I view those two as our biggest threats in the East currently. Originally thought it'd be NY, IND and PHI (if healthy)
Why are the Sixers doomed?  As bad as they've been playing and with all the missed time due to injuries, they are only 4 games out of 6th place.

Re: NBA Season 2024-25
« Reply #350 on: November 22, 2024, 06:06:27 AM »

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The Bucks are actually starting to gain some momentum. They are still 6-9 but now up to the 10th seed (play-in range) and the way the East is set up, they are a winning streak away from basically vaulting to a Top-5 spot.

Sixers are doomed though.

Idk about the Pacers, I thought they'd be a Top-5 seed but they just look very inconsistent and it's the same with Haliburton. Hard to gauge them.

Cleveland, New York and Boston seem to be the rightful Top-3 and I view those two as our biggest threats in the East currently. Originally thought it'd be NY, IND and PHI (if healthy)
Why are the Sixers doomed?  As bad as they've been playing and with all the missed time due to injuries, they are only 4 games out of 6th place.

Agreed. The reaction from the media and fans is way over the top. The East's bad start has been great news for Philly. It means they haven't lost much distance from the playoff spots.

Loads of time left. Philly are in no trouble at this point. Talk of blowing it up or tanking (seen elsewhere) is over-reaction to short term results.

Re: NBA Season 2024-25
« Reply #351 on: November 22, 2024, 11:03:55 AM »

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The Bucks are actually starting to gain some momentum. They are still 6-9 but now up to the 10th seed (play-in range) and the way the East is set up, they are a winning streak away from basically vaulting to a Top-5 spot.

Sixers are doomed though.

Idk about the Pacers, I thought they'd be a Top-5 seed but they just look very inconsistent and it's the same with Haliburton. Hard to gauge them.

Cleveland, New York and Boston seem to be the rightful Top-3 and I view those two as our biggest threats in the East currently. Originally thought it'd be NY, IND and PHI (if healthy)
Why are the Sixers doomed?  As bad as they've been playing and with all the missed time due to injuries, they are only 4 games out of 6th place.

I am not sure if they are doomed, but there are some pretty bad things that have happened to them. The biggest is that Paul George is constantly getting injured in the first year of a multi-year max contract and has also looked really bad when he has played. If he can't get back to something close to even last years form it is going to be tough for them to be contenders.

Embid - After saying over the summer he was going to be get in shape he looks to be in awful shape and keeps getting injured as well. If he looks this bad now what is he going to look like in the playoffs.

Eric Gordon and Kyle Lowry both look so far beyond cooked, it hurts their depth quite a bit. While it is true they are only min guys, if they can't even be bench guys is a problem. Andre Drummond has been serviceable but even he has been a bit worse than previous years as his one elite skill has shown decline (rebounding) and his already bad offense has taken a dip.

Lastly the chemistry seems brutal and PG going on a podcast in the middle of this season needs to stop immediately.

Now on the positive Mccain has been a resolution and will be great long term for them. Yabu has also given them probably more than they expected. However, the problems above are all big problems for this year and given Embid and George and their age/injury issues they can't afford to a punt a year.


Re: NBA Season 2024-25
« Reply #352 on: November 22, 2024, 11:14:14 AM »

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Re: NBA Season 2024-25
« Reply #353 on: November 22, 2024, 02:20:58 PM »

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Sixers center Joel Embiid watched, but did not participate in this morning?s shootaround. He is listed as questionable for tonight?s  game against the Nets with left-knee injury management.

Philly could be shaping up to be that "if they get their crap together, watch out but never actually comes to fruition" team

Like I said above, Embiid cares more about being a "detective" and the social media remarks than he actually does basketball and helping his team win games.
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Re: NBA Season 2024-25
« Reply #354 on: November 22, 2024, 11:55:18 PM »

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The Bucks are actually starting to gain some momentum. They are still 6-9 but now up to the 10th seed (play-in range) and the way the East is set up, they are a winning streak away from basically vaulting to a Top-5 spot.

Sixers are doomed though.

Idk about the Pacers, I thought they'd be a Top-5 seed but they just look very inconsistent and it's the same with Haliburton. Hard to gauge them.

Cleveland, New York and Boston seem to be the rightful Top-3 and I view those two as our biggest threats in the East currently. Originally thought it'd be NY, IND and PHI (if healthy)
Why are the Sixers doomed?  As bad as they've been playing and with all the missed time due to injuries, they are only 4 games out of 6th place.

I am not sure if they are doomed, but there are some pretty bad things that have happened to them. The biggest is that Paul George is constantly getting injured in the first year of a multi-year max contract and has also looked really bad when he has played. If he can't get back to something close to even last years form it is going to be tough for them to be contenders.

Embid - After saying over the summer he was going to be get in shape he looks to be in awful shape and keeps getting injured as well. If he looks this bad now what is he going to look like in the playoffs.

Eric Gordon and Kyle Lowry both look so far beyond cooked, it hurts their depth quite a bit. While it is true they are only min guys, if they can't even be bench guys is a problem. Andre Drummond has been serviceable but even he has been a bit worse than previous years as his one elite skill has shown decline (rebounding) and his already bad offense has taken a dip.

Lastly the chemistry seems brutal and PG going on a podcast in the middle of this season needs to stop immediately.

Now on the positive Mccain has been a resolution and will be great long term for them. Yabu has also given them probably more than they expected. However, the problems above are all big problems for this year and given Embid and George and their age/injury issues they can't afford to a punt a year.
I assume you meant revelation not resolution.  McCain put up 30pts and Maxey added 26pts to get the Sixers their 3rd win.  Neither Embiid or George played.  Having both of them be able to score and create for others is a big deal for the Sixers.  Of course producing in the regular season doesn't mean it will carry over to the playoffs.  I've said before that the Sixers need to reduce the offense's focus on Embiid and let him focus more on defense.  Let Embiid be more of a finisher like he was able to be with Harden. 

Your concerns about Embiid and George are obviously spot on and the Sixers can't punt this season.  However the Sixers do need to manage the load on Embiid and George at least during the regular season.  They shouldn't need Embiid to average 30+ points to win.  George needs to be a significant upgrade over Harris but he shouldn't need to be a #2 star. 

As for their role players, I think they may have the best collection that they've ever put around Embiid:  McCain, Yabusele, Oubre, Drummond, the Martin boys, Lowry, Gordon and Jackson.  Some of them may not be able to produce consistently anymore but they could still step up to help win a game or series in the playoffs.  If I recall correctly, the Sixers have the flexibility to make a midseason trade if some desirable role player becomes available. 

Re: NBA Season 2024-25
« Reply #355 on: November 23, 2024, 02:35:41 AM »

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We've hear a lot about Cleveland, the Knicks, the Celtics, the struggling Bucks, the Pacers, and the dysfunctional Sixers. But there is one team that's not talked about enough in the East and it's the Orlando Magic.

Banchero/Wagner are going to be a threat in the near future. Banchero is basically a Ben Simmons that everybody expected him to be 4-5 years ago and he's played pretty well in his previous seasons and early this season before his injury. Franz Wagner is also another monster...made the silencer last night. Think we may have a throwback of the 'ol 2008-2010 days again, where the top 3 teams in the East were the Cavs, Celtics, and Magic.


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Re: NBA Season 2024-25
« Reply #356 on: November 23, 2024, 08:27:11 AM »

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We've hear a lot about Cleveland, the Knicks, the Celtics, the struggling Bucks, the Pacers, and the dysfunctional Sixers. But there is one team that's not talked about enough in the East and it's the Orlando Magic.

Banchero/Wagner are going to be a threat in the near future. Banchero is basically a Ben Simmons that everybody expected him to be 4-5 years ago and he's played pretty well in his previous seasons and early this season before his injury. Franz Wagner is also another monster...made the silencer last night. Think we may have a throwback of the 'ol 2008-2010 days again, where the top 3 teams in the East were the Cavs, Celtics, and Magic.

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Especially long term I see the Orlando Magic as our biggest threat. There are a couple of very stong defensive teams right now: OKC, Orlando, Houston and Golden State. Of these teams, OKC (SGA, J-Dub, Holmgren) and Orlando (Banchero, Wagner) have reliable offensive weapons to cause serious problems.

Cleveland and New York are strong teams, but our versatility will be decisive as both of them have weaknesses to exploit. Cleveland: Garland and Mitchell small guards, match-up problems. New York: Brunson bad defender and Towns weak rim protector.

Something controversial perhaps to discuss: in 2025, Banchero/Wagner > Tatum/Brown

Re: NBA Season 2024-25
« Reply #357 on: November 23, 2024, 09:20:11 AM »

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Orlando is an interesting team to watch out for.  Banchero certainly appears to be the real deal and just turned 22 in November.  I have questions on Wagner, he can put up points, but I also think he can be taken out of the game with the right scheme.  So we shall see.  They had a nice run at the end of the regular season but then didn't do much in the playoffs.  Certainly a team on the right path.

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« Reply #358 on: November 23, 2024, 06:58:09 PM »

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Re: NBA Season 2024-25
« Reply #359 on: November 23, 2024, 09:49:32 PM »

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It's starting to "average out" a bit, but the Bucks are the 6th seed now at... 7-9  :laugh:

They are only like 2 games back of the 4 seed too. The 3 seed is 10-7 (Orlando). Meanwhile most of the conference is ranging between 7-9 and 6-10 lol including the Pacers who many (myself included) thought would be a Top-4 team in the East.
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