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Re: Team USA Basketball 2024
« Reply #465 on: August 06, 2024, 04:09:07 PM »

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Soooo?.are white and jrue the most important Celtics?
Brown can?t even make team USA and Tatum is basically just an end of bench bum

I mean you hate Tatum anyway so why does it matter?

I don?t hate Tatum at all, dude literally put his ego aside and helped us win a title and has been a great player for us.
But what is this saying where all these players are playing ahead of him on the Olympic team when he has been the better nba player? All because he just lost his shot? I mean Steph hasn?t been making anything this summer either?.embiid has been garbage?idk help me figure it out

Position redundancy.

Tatum has proven to be able to play out of position though and according to All-nba is better than almost everyone getting minutes over him?
Why is Embiid starting and getting any minutes? Bam and AD should be the only bigs getting minutes and go ?small? with Tatum

Kerr seems incapable of making subs other than line changes with this team.

There are so many combos you could use with Tatum. Play a Celtics/lakers lineup.

Tatum ad and bam together

Kerr just seems content just making the easy switches

I do think the Celtics will be highly motivated next season with some of this stuff that has happened. And banner 19 is all that matters

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Re: Team USA Basketball 2024
« Reply #466 on: August 06, 2024, 04:19:30 PM »

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Kind of a moot point now anyways because Tatum is getting minutes?looked for a minute he was gonna be benched again.

Re: Team USA Basketball 2024
« Reply #467 on: August 06, 2024, 04:21:04 PM »

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Soooo?.are white and jrue the most important Celtics?
Brown can?t even make team USA and Tatum is basically just an end of bench bum

I mean you hate Tatum anyway so why does it matter?

I don?t hate Tatum at all, dude literally put his ego aside and helped us win a title and has been a great player for us.
But what is this saying where all these players are playing ahead of him on the Olympic team when he has been the better nba player? All because he just lost his shot? I mean Steph hasn?t been making anything this summer either?.embiid has been garbage?idk help me figure it out

Position redundancy.

Tatum has proven to be able to play out of position though and according to All-nba is better than almost everyone getting minutes over him?
Why is Embiid starting and getting any minutes? Bam and AD should be the only bigs getting minutes

Why do you really need to play anyone out of position on a team loaded with current & former NBA all stars & All-NBA players?

I mean it?s a moot point now anyways because tatums getting his minutes but I feel he could easily be a ?big? for team usa?the same way he was for us in the playoffs.

Re: Team USA Basketball 2024
« Reply #468 on: August 06, 2024, 04:22:14 PM »

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Kind of a moot point now anyways because Tatum is getting minutes?looked for a minute he was gonna be benched again.

I don?t mind him not starting. I don?t mind him not getting heavy minutes because I am worried about the season coming up.

I am just confused at times by kerr?s lack of being able to play different combinations.

Glad to see JT play that quarter.

Re: Team USA Basketball 2024
« Reply #469 on: August 06, 2024, 04:37:05 PM »

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Kind of a moot point now anyways because Tatum is getting minutes?looked for a minute he was gonna be benched again.

I agree. I?d rather him not be there at all but since he is I?d rather him not be embarrassed and benched.

I don?t mind him not starting. I don?t mind him not getting heavy minutes because I am worried about the season coming up.

I am just confused at times by kerr?s lack of being able to play different combinations.

Glad to see JT play that quarter.

Re: Team USA Basketball 2024
« Reply #470 on: August 06, 2024, 04:41:03 PM »

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Soooo?.are white and jrue the most important Celtics?
Brown can?t even make team USA and Tatum is basically just an end of bench bum

Yeah, and that was clear during the warm-ups that both Jrue & D White were more important to the team than Tatum was.

Part of the reason is the need for defensively capable big guards who are solid on offense. Neither Haliburton or Steph can provide this.

Position redundancy.

I wanted to throw this in here before talking about Tatum because this was the case even in the warm-up games before Kevin Durant joined the team. Tatum had a clear role to play as the backup PF/SF and be a 6th man / 7th man like Durant is currently.

Even then, Tatum was struggling and playing badly.

There wasn't a redundancy issue without Durant there. Still Tatum was unable to make a (substantial) role for himself.

Why do you really need to play anyone out of position on a team loaded with current & former NBA all stars & All-NBA players?

This is another interesting one. The team seems to get more value by playing out of position at SF by going small rather than staying big at forward. They have looked their best with Anthony Edwards at SF because he has a HUGE quickness & athletic advantage over his opponent.

Then they have used Devin Booker out of position at SF instead of Tatum. Largely because D Booker has been a more dependable outside shot maker, ball-handler and passer than Tatum. Again, the same choice. Choosing to go out of position for a smaller more skilled player than playing big at forward.

So they are playing out of position but doing it in a different way choosing to play small at SF with SGs rather than play with natural forwards like Tatum. That has reduced Tatum's minute availability also.

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Tatum should have been able to earn that starting SF slot but he struggled when given the opportunity. In large part because of his inability to make three point shots in either the warm-up games or in Olympic play. Then add in his struggle with turnovers. His inability to adjust from his role on the Celtics to a different role with Team USA.

He has played badly. He hasn't deserved more time.

Re: Team USA Basketball 2024
« Reply #471 on: August 06, 2024, 04:51:46 PM »

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Thinking about it ... Tatum has been the worst outside shot maker on the team.

The bigs are all skilled this year. Embiid can play outside and make shots. AD plays outside and can make shots. Bam has been surprisingly good at making outside shots. He has played great. So all the bigs have been good inside & outside players.

All the other guards and forwards have been dependable shot makers. Haliburton the least dependable and also receiving the least amount of playing time as a result (along with his crappy D).

Tatum needs to make some outside shots. He has been too ineffective on the perimeter to warrant more playing time. He hasn't given Kerr a reason to play him more. Tatum has only himself to blame.

Re: Team USA Basketball 2024
« Reply #472 on: August 06, 2024, 04:52:11 PM »

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Got us a game now  :laugh:

Re: Team USA Basketball 2024
« Reply #473 on: August 06, 2024, 04:55:46 PM »

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Anthony Edwards stands out so much for his ball-handling and ability to beat his man off the dribble / in the PnR. He has been the best creator off the bounce on the team.

The difference between his handle and Tatum's has been stark. It has also been impressive how much more comfortable Ant has looked attacking than our guards. Steph not attacking much off the bounce more off ball. Jrue and D White more complementary skill-sets than playmaking guards.

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« Reply #474 on: August 06, 2024, 04:59:21 PM »

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Wow, interesting comment by announcers. In the first game against Serbia the score with / without Jokic was:

With Jokic = 81 apiece
Without Jokic = 29-3 in favour of the US

So Serbia played even with Jokic and got hammered without him.

Re: Team USA Basketball 2024
« Reply #475 on: August 06, 2024, 05:14:40 PM »

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Booker = 18pts 3ast
Ant = 17pts 6reb 2ast
AD = 13pts 8reb 3ast 2stl 1blk
LeBron = 12pts 9ast 3stl 3reb

Durant = 11pts 3reb 3ast
Bam = 9pts 7reb

Embiid = 14pts 7reb
Jrue = 9pts 3ast
D White = 5pts 4ast 4reb

Tatum = 5pts (1-5 FGA, 3-4 FTA) 3reb 1ast 1stl 1blk
Steph = 7pts
Hali = 2pts 1ast

Re: Team USA Basketball 2024
« Reply #476 on: August 07, 2024, 03:15:49 AM »

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So if Team USA plays the way they've been playing I don't think anyone will come close to them. Our biggest threat, Canada, has fallen by the wayside.
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Re: Team USA Basketball 2024
« Reply #477 on: August 07, 2024, 08:44:53 AM »

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Without real competition, I find the games to be boring, pretty much unwatchable for me.

Re: Team USA Basketball 2024
« Reply #478 on: August 07, 2024, 09:48:17 AM »

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Without real competition, I find the games to be boring, pretty much unwatchable for me.
I tend to agree, but it's either that or we see a repeat of 2004 where everyone is up in arms because we're losing.
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Re: Team USA Basketball 2024
« Reply #479 on: August 07, 2024, 09:56:25 AM »

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International basketball has been overrated. Sure, there are a handful of players that can stand out, but even the great Jokic or Giannis can't beat an NBA All Star team by themselves. We learned that this regular season. These international teams either need to improve dramatically, or the US should bring their JV squad. Without some type of change, we will continue to see boring, anti-climatic Olympic basketball.

Sure, the allure of a gold medal is exciting, but it becomes less so when the field is so uneven.
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