Author Topic: 2024 NBA Offseason News  (Read 212042 times)

0 Members and 0 Guests are viewing this topic.

Re: 2024 NBA Offseason News
« Reply #330 on: July 02, 2024, 10:46:26 PM »

Offline W8ting2McHale

  • NCE
  • Jayson Tatum
  • Posts: 777
  • Tommy Points: 98
JJ Reddick saying Bronny getting drafted was due to his "hard work" is absolutely hilarious. What a clownshow that organization has become with Lebron (and Rich Paul) anchoring everything  :laugh:

I?m indifferent about Klay Thompson choosing the Mavs over the Lakers, but apparently his dad is salty about it. Klay?s father is former Laker Mychal Thompson. He says Klay grew up a Kobe fan and dreamed of being a Laker someday, but given the opportunity he said ?Nah, I?m good? after looking at the current situation in LA.

Re: 2024 NBA Offseason News
« Reply #331 on: July 03, 2024, 01:31:32 AM »

Offline SparzWizard

  • Dennis Johnson
  • ******************
  • Posts: 18850
  • Tommy Points: 1119
JJ Reddick saying Bronny getting drafted was due to his "hard work" is absolutely hilarious. What a clownshow that organization has become with Lebron (and Rich Paul) anchoring everything  :laugh:

I?m indifferent about Klay Thompson choosing the Mavs over the Lakers, but apparently his dad is salty about it. Klay?s father is former Laker Mychal Thompson. He says Klay grew up a Kobe fan and dreamed of being a Laker someday, but given the opportunity he said ?Nah, I?m good? after looking at the current situation in LA.

Nobody wants to play for a sorry clown show of a franchise like the Lakers


#FireJoe
#JTJB (Just Trade Jaylen Brown) 2022 - 2025
I am the Master of Panic.

Re: 2024 NBA Offseason News
« Reply #332 on: July 03, 2024, 01:51:43 AM »

Offline celticsclay

  • JoJo White
  • ****************
  • Posts: 16178
  • Tommy Points: 1407
JJ Reddick saying Bronny getting drafted was due to his "hard work" is absolutely hilarious. What a clownshow that organization has become with Lebron (and Rich Paul) anchoring everything  :laugh:

I?m indifferent about Klay Thompson choosing the Mavs over the Lakers, but apparently his dad is salty about it. Klay?s father is former Laker Mychal Thompson. He says Klay grew up a Kobe fan and dreamed of being a Laker someday, but given the opportunity he said ?Nah, I?m good? after looking at the current situation in LA.

Nobody wants to play for a sorry clown show of a franchise like the Lakers

Drafting Bronny, signing a guy that does a podcast with Lebron and having Klay take less money to play for Mavs than lakers offered is not making them appealing

Re: 2024 NBA Offseason News
« Reply #333 on: July 03, 2024, 02:59:18 AM »

Offline Birdman

  • Danny Ainge
  • **********
  • Posts: 10314
  • Tommy Points: 465
If LeBron wasn?t on the Lakers, Bronny would not got drafted, everyone knows that & probably be playing overseas
C/PF-Horford, Baynes, Noel, Theis, Morris,
SF/SG- Tatum, Brown, Hayward, Smart, Semi, Clark
PG- Irving, Rozier, Larkin

Re: 2024 NBA Offseason News
« Reply #334 on: July 03, 2024, 02:13:17 PM »

Online Who

  • James Naismith
  • *********************************
  • Posts: 52948
  • Tommy Points: 2570
Lakers hire Nate McMillan and Scott Brooks as assistant coaches for JJ Redick. That is some serious experience alongside JJ. Good call.

Our all old friend Kemba Walker has joined the Hornets coaching staff. Good for him. Sounds like he is going to have a long term home with the Hornets. Their All-Time leading scorer apparently. He will be a "player enhancement coach".

Re: 2024 NBA Offseason News
« Reply #335 on: July 03, 2024, 04:30:47 PM »

Offline Phantom255x

  • James Naismith
  • *********************************
  • Posts: 37081
  • Tommy Points: 3380
  • On To Banner 19!
JJ Reddick saying Bronny getting drafted was due to his "hard work" is absolutely hilarious. What a clownshow that organization has become with Lebron (and Rich Paul) anchoring everything  :laugh:

I?m indifferent about Klay Thompson choosing the Mavs over the Lakers, but apparently his dad is salty about it. Klay?s father is former Laker Mychal Thompson. He says Klay grew up a Kobe fan and dreamed of being a Laker someday, but given the opportunity he said ?Nah, I?m good? after looking at the current situation in LA.

Nobody wants to play for a sorry clown show of a franchise like the Lakers

Drafting Bronny, signing a guy that does a podcast with Lebron and having Klay take less money to play for Mavs than lakers offered is not making them appealing

That franchise is currently run by Lebron. Though they don't have a choice. I think people forget how bad the Lakers have been post-Kobe, it only revitalized for them once Lebron joined them and then they also got AD via trade. Once Lebron leaves, it's gonna go back to being a clown show (until someone like Giannis or Doncic probably demands a trade there...)
"Tough times never last, but tough people do." - Robert H. Schuller

Re: 2024 NBA Offseason News
« Reply #336 on: July 03, 2024, 05:23:55 PM »

Online Who

  • James Naismith
  • *********************************
  • Posts: 52948
  • Tommy Points: 2570
Reed Sheppard

Three quotes from guys at The Ringer

Quote
The Ringer?s Kevin O?Connor had Sheppard as his No. 1 overall player in the draft.

?He?s an incredible shooter and a visionary playmaker who causes chaos on defense,? O?Connor wrote. ?The primary concerns about his game are his size, since he?s only 6-foot-2, and his shot creation, since he?s more of a connector than a primary creator right now. But those worries should be subdued in Houston. The Rockets have loads of lengthy defenders to help protect the rim. And many of those players are also shot creators. Sheppard won?t be relied on to run pick-and-rolls over and over. Instead, he?ll be one of the many players initiating offense in Houston.

Quote
On The Bill Simmons Podcast, Simmons and Ryen Russillo both raved about Sheppard?s ability to hit shots from all over the court.

?He makes that little Mark Price one-legged 12-footer in traffic going sideways,? Simmons said. ?He has all of those (shots).?

?If you run Reed Sheppard off a high screen and you?re not there to meet him immediately, it?s over,? Russillo added. ?And I don?t know that there?s been a kid I?ve watched in years where his misses were all awesome, just rattling around soft on the rim. It?s like, 'Oh, I can?t believe that didn?t even go in.' That?s how good of a shooter Reed Sheppard is.?

Quote
The Ringer?s Danny Chau gave the Rockets an A for taking Sheppard, writing that the 6-2 guard ?was a statistical darling, shooting the 3 at an absolutely stupid clip while compiling defensive numbers that ought to be impossible for a player with unremarkable size and length. He is the best shooter in the class, equally adept at spot-ups and pulling up in transition. For a team with so much athleticism at its disposal, getting a release valve from deep while also adding another smart playmaker is a no-brainer.?

Quote
Kevin Pelton called it the best pick of the night.

?The Rockets had a pretty good sense they would have a shot at Sheppard, but the important thing here was Houston passing on the temptation to trade this pick for a veteran,? Pelton wrote. ?I love how Sheppard, my top-rated prospect, fits with the Rockets' young core by adding badly needed shooting.?

This is interesting. If Reed Sheppard wasn't available, Houston would have traded the pick. Sheppard was the #1 guy on their board.

Quote
They considered Sheppard to be the best prospect of his draft class, better than those chosen before him and so much better than the others on the board when the Rockets were on the clock that general manager Rafael Stone said he would have traded the pick if he did not get the player he wanted most.

?I don?t want to put down anybody in this draft,? Stone said. ?I do think it?s a talented draft. I think there are a lot of guys who can and will have really productive NBA careers. But in this case, at the end of our process, we ended up with Reed as the best player in the draft by quite a bit, the best prospect we thought ? and kind of the only guy we were really focused on.

?So if he had not gotten to us, we would have probably? traded down or out of the draft. When we had the opportunity to draft him, we jumped on it.?

Rockets GM continues

Quote
Widely considered the best range shooter in the draft, Sheppard fits a Rockets need. But Stone described his choice as more general than fitting a specific skill into any current shortcoming. His analysis of Sheppard went beyond citing Sheppard?s 52.1% 3-point shooting last season or his similarly impressive numbers on every sort of perimeter shot, from open catch-and-shoot 3s to covered step-back attempts.

?He has a special set of skills,? Stone said. ?His shooting ? was historically great. And his feel for the game, his passing, his ability to get deflections. And he?s an NBA (caliber) athlete. He?s not somebody who?s under-athletic.

?The IQ and feel I think is very real. There?s just a lot to like.?

Quote
Rather than a pure point guard, Sheppard was a combo guard at Kentucky. In the NBA, he likely will be on the ball more often, though his shooting and his high and quick release would allow him to work with others facilitating offense. But Stone said Sheppard?s ability to see the floor on both ends stood out when he studied video of his play.

?He makes the easy play easy,? Stone said. ?He sees the court really well. His decision-making, his processing is really quick. It?s one of the reasons I think he shoots so well, because the game comes easy to him when he knows whether he is going to shoot early enough to be ready to shoot. His shot preparation is truly astounding.

?Defensively, he baits guys on defense. He picks up cheap steals. He can almost cheat the game a little bit by anticipation. And he?s a really good athlete. He doesn?t have to just rely on his anticipation. He?s able to couple it with some athleticism.?

Quote
With Sheppard, they got a player whose strengths fit their needs and roster better than other players available, along with the prospect they believed was best anyway.

?He can really shoot, and he can really pass,? Stone said. ?Players like that fit in every offense. He?s a good fit with Alperen (Şeng?n). He?s a good fit with Amen. He?s a good fit with Fred, with Dillon. But mainly because he?s a talented basketball player, especially on the offensive side of the ball.?

Only 6-2

Quote
Sheppard is undersized at just 6-1? with a 6-3? wingspan. He has the shortest hands measured at this season?s combine. But his ability to read situations quickly coupled with outstanding jumping ability that produced the best maximum vertical jump at the combine allows him to play bigger than he is.

I found this part interesting

Quote
Sheppard, 20, made 52.1% of his 3s in his lone season with Kentucky, but his superlative shooting shows in ways that go beyond those numbers.

Sheppard has a tight shooting stroke with no wasted motion and a high, quick release. He shoots well in catch-and-shoot, off the dribble and on step-back or side-step 3s.

So not just a spot up shooter. Or even a catch and shoot shooter off of movement. Also a step back jumper.

I saw some numbers on this in a video. Sheppard shot 38/73 (52%) on off the dribble jumpers including 19-37 on off the dribble 3s. He shot 9/15 on floaters (very small sample). And 19-36 on short to midrange jumpers (also quite small).

One thing that was surprising from his numbers was he was below 20% in usage (average mark). So a below average offensive usage despite his high efficiency. Strange for an offensive orientated NBA prospect. Usage undersells passing a bit. So maybe a bit above average but certainly not high.

It is interesting seeing how defenders jumped out on him at the three point line like NBA defenders to Steph. Giving up the lane and allowing easy drives instead of allowing Sheppard to get off a 3. He has nice hesitation moves and change of pace dribbles for getting defenders off balance / getting past defenders.

Those passing numbers are impressive for a SG / combo guard.

Re: 2024 NBA Offseason News
« Reply #337 on: July 04, 2024, 12:05:05 AM »

Online Who

  • James Naismith
  • *********************************
  • Posts: 52948
  • Tommy Points: 2570
Reed Sheppard reminds me a bit of Jimmer Fredette. Similar size & build. Similar looking burst / speed. Sheppard a much better leaper.

Sheppard had low FTAs and low at the rim attempts in NCAA. Fredette struggled to get to the basket and finish. Sheppard not a great one-on-one player. Fredette was in college but not the NBA.

Fredette more of a pure scorer so that decline in one-on-on ability at the NBA hurt him. Whereas Sheppard is more of an all-rounder with passing ability, efficiency over volume scoring, and some defensive talent.

Re: 2024 NBA Offseason News
« Reply #338 on: July 04, 2024, 01:19:27 AM »

Offline SparzWizard

  • Dennis Johnson
  • ******************
  • Posts: 18850
  • Tommy Points: 1119
Jayson shocked about Wyc selling the team, hoping it remains intact. Says he doesn't want things to change.

Well I guess that's what happens when both star players are getting paid $600M+, too expensive to maintain lol


#FireJoe
#JTJB (Just Trade Jaylen Brown) 2022 - 2025
I am the Master of Panic.

Re: 2024 NBA Offseason News
« Reply #339 on: July 04, 2024, 11:35:13 AM »

Online Who

  • James Naismith
  • *********************************
  • Posts: 52948
  • Tommy Points: 2570
Quote
The Los Angeles Lakers are expected to have Bronny James largely play in the G League this season, though he will likely share the court with his father, LeBron James, at some point early in the season.

"What the Lakers' expectations are is he will largely be a G League player, like almost any 19-year-old player coming into the league drafted in the second round," said Adrian Wojnarowski on a Wednesday morning Sports Center appearance. "What I think you will ultimately see is Bronny James in the first week of the season on the court with his father. In a very, I don't want to call it ceremonial, but the eyes of the world will be on that. They'll do that the first week of the season. But there's no expectation Bronny James is going to be in the Lakers' rotation. He'll spend a lot of his time playing with their G League, which shares a practice facility with the Lakers."

Probably a good idea. Just get the story out of the way and get back to business as normal.

Re: 2024 NBA Offseason News
« Reply #340 on: July 04, 2024, 03:50:07 PM »

Offline Birdman

  • Danny Ainge
  • **********
  • Posts: 10314
  • Tommy Points: 465
Looks like New Orleans & Sacramento talking trade:
Kings get Brandon Ingram
Pelicans get Harrison Barnes & Kevin Huerter

C/PF-Horford, Baynes, Noel, Theis, Morris,
SF/SG- Tatum, Brown, Hayward, Smart, Semi, Clark
PG- Irving, Rozier, Larkin

Re: 2024 NBA Offseason News
« Reply #341 on: July 04, 2024, 05:49:21 PM »

Offline jambr380

  • K.C. Jones
  • *************
  • Posts: 13756
  • Tommy Points: 2061
  • Sometimes there's no sane reason for optimism
Looks like New Orleans & Sacramento talking trade:
Kings get Brandon Ingram
Pelicans get Harrison Barnes & Kevin Huerter

Pelicans need a starting Center and a more traditional PG, so why not trade for two wings who are demonstrably worse than the one they are sending out?

Re: 2024 NBA Offseason News
« Reply #342 on: July 04, 2024, 07:11:47 PM »

Offline PAOBoston

  • Don Nelson
  • ********
  • Posts: 8134
  • Tommy Points: 535
Looks like New Orleans & Sacramento talking trade:
Kings get Brandon Ingram
Pelicans get Harrison Barnes & Kevin Huerter

Pelicans need a starting Center and a more traditional PG, so why not trade for two wings who are demonstrably worse than the one they are sending out?
Is Brandon Ingram actually any good though? I think Barnes and Huerter fit better and provide better spacing than Ingram does.

Re: 2024 NBA Offseason News
« Reply #343 on: July 04, 2024, 07:42:43 PM »

Online blink

  • Bill Sharman
  • *******************
  • Posts: 19671
  • Tommy Points: 1622
Looks like New Orleans & Sacramento talking trade:
Kings get Brandon Ingram
Pelicans get Harrison Barnes & Kevin Huerter

Pelicans need a starting Center and a more traditional PG, so why not trade for two wings who are demonstrably worse than the one they are sending out?
Is Brandon Ingram actually any good though? I think Barnes and Huerter fit better and provide better spacing than Ingram does.

To me that seems an odd trade for Sac.   I agree about the better fit.

Re: 2024 NBA Offseason News
« Reply #344 on: July 04, 2024, 07:46:12 PM »

Offline jambr380

  • K.C. Jones
  • *************
  • Posts: 13756
  • Tommy Points: 2061
  • Sometimes there's no sane reason for optimism
Looks like New Orleans & Sacramento talking trade:
Kings get Brandon Ingram
Pelicans get Harrison Barnes & Kevin Huerter

Pelicans need a starting Center and a more traditional PG, so why not trade for two wings who are demonstrably worse than the one they are sending out?
Is Brandon Ingram actually any good though? I think Barnes and Huerter fit better and provide better spacing than Ingram does.

He?s only 26, he?s made an all-star team, and he?ll get you a minimum of 20/5/5 on decent shooting. I was talking to some Cleveland fans a couple of months ago and they had hoped the could snag Ingram for Garland if they were able to re-sign Mitchell. Ingram?s size and ability is very desirable in today?s NBA, it?s just that the Pelicans have a number of starter level wings