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[boscel33]

Would people be willing to do something like:

Simons, Hugo, Walsh, plus picks
for
Jackson

Another pathway could be White to another team, like HOU, and young players and picks from HOU (and likely BOS) to MEM.

IMO, need to keep Hugo out of deals.  We don't have a lot of developmental talent since we've missed on Walsh and Baylor.

[Birdman]

If Memphis goes into a full rebuild, they probably going trade Morant & Jackson, I would trade picks & Hugo for Jackson but is he a FA at year end?

[Neurotic Guy]

Would people be willing to do something like:

Simons, Hugo, Walsh, plus picks
for
Jackson

Another pathway could be White to another team, like HOU, and young players and picks from HOU (and likely BOS) to MEM.

IMO, need to keep Hugo out of deals.  We don't have a lot of developmental talent since we've missed on Walsh and Baylor.

I agree that keeping Hugo is important, but have to keep an open mind if he plus Simons can deliver a player who can put the Cs into legit contention over the next few years.

I don?t really see either Baylor or Walsh as missed. Baylor may well be a decent end of rotation player. Walsh is still a prospect at 21 and has shown some very promising signs this year.

[Vermont Green]

Would people be willing to do something like:

Simons, Hugo, Walsh, plus picks
for
Jackson

Another pathway could be White to another team, like HOU, and young players and picks from HOU (and likely BOS) to MEM.

You realize Jackson makes $49 million next year?  We cannot afford him.  Your trade puts us over the second apron next year and with four roster spots to fill.

I did not realize that his salary jumped up like that. Yeah, that makes a trade tough.  So is this a BYC contract?  It seems it is not in terms of trade value.  Not sure I understand why.

It is a 140% extension (the CBA upped it from 120%), if that is what you mean by base-year compensation.

Base Year contracts count as one value outgoing and a higher value as the incoming.  This contract did not appear to be adjusted in that way.  So if he is $35M (or whatever) this season and then $47M next, does he still count only as $35M incoming in a trade or does it go up to a higher value?

[Celtics2021]

Would people be willing to do something like:

Simons, Hugo, Walsh, plus picks
for
Jackson

Another pathway could be White to another team, like HOU, and young players and picks from HOU (and likely BOS) to MEM.

You realize Jackson makes $49 million next year?  We cannot afford him.  Your trade puts us over the second apron next year and with four roster spots to fill.

I did not realize that his salary jumped up like that. Yeah, that makes a trade tough.  So is this a BYC contract?  It seems it is not in terms of trade value.  Not sure I understand why.

It is a 140% extension (the CBA upped it from 120%), if that is what you mean by base-year compensation.

Base Year contracts count as one value outgoing and a higher value as the incoming.  This contract did not appear to be adjusted in that way.  So if he is $35M (or whatever) this season and then $47M next, does he still count only as $35M incoming in a trade or does it go up to a higher value?

Oh, that is not what base-year contracts are.  The base-year compensation rule applies to free agent s&t deals.  The outgoing salary was only counted up to 120% of the player?s prior salary (I don?t know if that?s still the percentage or if it was upped to 140%).  What you are referring to is for salary jumps before a new extension kicks in.  That rule is only for rookie-deal extensions, since you can have players going from making $5 million a year one season to a max deal the next.  When a player who has signed a rookie extension is traded before the extension kicks in, the outgoing salary is whatever that year?s salary is, but the incoming is treated as the average salary of that year plus all the seasons of the extension.  But again, that is only for players who were extended prior to their fourth year of their 1st round rookie contract.  Jackson signed a veteran extension this summer, so his only restriction is not being traded for 6 months, which ended this week.