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Re: NBA Season 2023-24
« Reply #3240 on: February 15, 2024, 02:39:56 PM »

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Gallinari reportedly choosing between the Clippers and the Bucks per PatBevPod

Whose big man minutes will he take if he goes to the Clips?  They're already loaded.

He’s not taking minutes from anyone on a team that seriously has winning ambitions.

Re: NBA Season 2023-24
« Reply #3241 on: February 15, 2024, 02:42:37 PM »

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Gallinari reportedly choosing between the Clippers and the Bucks per PatBevPod

Whose big man minutes will he take if he goes to the Clips?  They're already loaded.

He’s not taking minutes from anyone on a team that seriously has winning ambitions.

It's interesting that the Clips already have two veterans complaining about lack of playing time (Tucker, Hyland), but they want to add a third.


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Re: NBA Season 2023-24
« Reply #3242 on: February 15, 2024, 02:57:59 PM »

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Gallinari reportedly choosing between the Clippers and the Bucks per PatBevPod

Whose big man minutes will he take if he goes to the Clips?  They're already loaded.

He’s not taking minutes from anyone on a team that seriously has winning ambitions.

It's interesting that the Clips already have two veterans complaining about lack of playing time (Tucker, Hyland), but they want to add a third.

I wonder why Gallinari would prefer either LAC or MIL to BOS?  Could it be that he feels jilted because the Celtics traded him?  If that is the case, I say come on, be a professional.

I guess LAC and MIL both have a chance at a title, but BOS would be the best chance (at least according to Vegas odds).  I would say his shot at playing time is about the same in all cases.  For the Celtics, he would have to beat out Kornet and/or Brissett and/or Tillman.

Re: NBA Season 2023-24
« Reply #3243 on: February 15, 2024, 03:00:26 PM »

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Gallinari reportedly choosing between the Clippers and the Bucks per PatBevPod

Whose big man minutes will he take if he goes to the Clips?  They're already loaded.

He’s not taking minutes from anyone on a team that seriously has winning ambitions.

It's interesting that the Clips already have two veterans complaining about lack of playing time (Tucker, Hyland), but they want to add a third.

I wonder why Gallinari would prefer either LAC or MIL to BOS?  Could it be that he feels jilted because the Celtics traded him?  If that is the case, I say come on, be a professional.

I guess LAC and MIL both have a chance at a title, but BOS would be the best chance (at least according to Vegas odds).  I would say his shot at playing time is about the same in all cases.  For the Celtics, he would have to beat out Kornet and/or Brissett and/or Tillman.
What's more, the Celtics helped him through his long rehab.

Re: NBA Season 2023-24
« Reply #3244 on: February 15, 2024, 03:04:20 PM »

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Gallinari reportedly choosing between the Clippers and the Bucks per PatBevPod

Whose big man minutes will he take if he goes to the Clips?  They're already loaded.

He’s not taking minutes from anyone on a team that seriously has winning ambitions.

It's interesting that the Clips already have two veterans complaining about lack of playing time (Tucker, Hyland), but they want to add a third.

I wonder why Gallinari would prefer either LAC or MIL to BOS?  Could it be that he feels jilted because the Celtics traded him?  If that is the case, I say come on, be a professional.

I guess LAC and MIL both have a chance at a title, but BOS would be the best chance (at least according to Vegas odds).  I would say his shot at playing time is about the same in all cases.  For the Celtics, he would have to beat out Kornet and/or Brissett and/or Tillman.

Do we know if the Celtics have even reached out to him?  The lack of interest could be mutual.

Re: NBA Season 2023-24
« Reply #3245 on: February 15, 2024, 03:05:42 PM »

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Gallinari reportedly choosing between the Clippers and the Bucks per PatBevPod

Whose big man minutes will he take if he goes to the Clips?  They're already loaded.

He’s not taking minutes from anyone on a team that seriously has winning ambitions.

It's interesting that the Clips already have two veterans complaining about lack of playing time (Tucker, Hyland), but they want to add a third.

I wonder why Gallinari would prefer either LAC or MIL to BOS?  Could it be that he feels jilted because the Celtics traded him?  If that is the case, I say come on, be a professional.

I guess LAC and MIL both have a chance at a title, but BOS would be the best chance (at least according to Vegas odds).  I would say his shot at playing time is about the same in all cases.  For the Celtics, he would have to beat out Kornet and/or Brissett and/or Tillman.

We don't know if the Celts offered him a contract.  But, LA is a bigger city with better weather.  If you are not going to see the floor in either place, I can understand choosing Los Angeles.  He played there previously and had the best season of his career. He played their previously and had the best season of his career. Plus, he feels like Brad lied to him.  I don't believe that being upset by that makes somebody unprofessional.


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Re: NBA Season 2023-24
« Reply #3246 on: February 15, 2024, 03:10:36 PM »

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“Our Plan 1A is actually we’d like to be out of the (luxury) tax, and we think we have a way to do that. That kind of is the plan, not just out of the second apron,” Warriors owner Joe Lacob said. “That’s important because the truth is we need to be out of the tax two years out of the next four in order to get this repeater (tax) thing off our books. We don’t want to be a repeater, it’s just so prohibitive. Not to say we wouldn’t do it if we had to, but you’ve got to look at what the downside is to doing that. – via Audacy


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Re: NBA Season 2023-24
« Reply #3247 on: February 15, 2024, 03:14:58 PM »

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Gallinari reportedly choosing between the Clippers and the Bucks per PatBevPod

Whose big man minutes will he take if he goes to the Clips?  They're already loaded.

He’s not taking minutes from anyone on a team that seriously has winning ambitions.

Agreed  :laugh:
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Re: NBA Season 2023-24
« Reply #3248 on: February 15, 2024, 03:19:35 PM »

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Gallinari reportedly choosing between the Clippers and the Bucks per PatBevPod

Whose big man minutes will he take if he goes to the Clips?  They're already loaded.

He’s not taking minutes from anyone on a team that seriously has winning ambitions.

It's interesting that the Clips already have two veterans complaining about lack of playing time (Tucker, Hyland), but they want to add a third.

I wonder why Gallinari would prefer either LAC or MIL to BOS?  Could it be that he feels jilted because the Celtics traded him?  If that is the case, I say come on, be a professional.

I guess LAC and MIL both have a chance at a title, but BOS would be the best chance (at least according to Vegas odds).  I would say his shot at playing time is about the same in all cases.  For the Celtics, he would have to beat out Kornet and/or Brissett and/or Tillman.

We don't know if the Celts offered him a contract.  But, LA is a bigger city with better weather.  If you are not going to see the floor in either place, I can understand choosing Los Angeles.  He played there previously and had the best season of his career. He played their previously and had the best season of his career. Plus, he feels like Brad lied to him.  I don't believe that being upset by that makes somebody unprofessional.

If an employer betrayed me like that then yeah I'd be upset too. I'd go to an opposing team and help them ring-chase instead. Or if I'm not gonna be seeing the floor, then I go with what's best for me and the fam (warm weather vs cold weather, etc). Human nature.

But NBA is a business after all.


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Re: NBA Season 2023-24
« Reply #3249 on: February 15, 2024, 04:11:05 PM »

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Shams Charania: NBA fined PJ Tucker $75,000 for public trade demand on Feb. 5. – via Twitter ShamsCharania
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At some point you have to blame the performance on the court on the players on the court. Every loss is not the coach's fault and every win isn't because of the players.

Re: NBA Season 2023-24
« Reply #3250 on: February 15, 2024, 04:26:13 PM »

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Gallinari reportedly choosing between the Clippers and the Bucks per PatBevPod

Whose big man minutes will he take if he goes to the Clips?  They're already loaded.

The Clippers were looking for another big forward. They are not enamoured with PJ Tucker and their rotation is on the small side. More wings (SG, SF) than forwards (PF, SF).

I imagine they want Gallo to have an alternative to going small so much of the time.

Re: NBA Season 2023-24
« Reply #3251 on: February 15, 2024, 04:26:44 PM »

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Gallinari reportedly choosing between the Clippers and the Bucks per PatBevPod

Whose big man minutes will he take if he goes to the Clips?  They're already loaded.

He’s not taking minutes from anyone on a team that seriously has winning ambitions.

It's interesting that the Clips already have two veterans complaining about lack of playing time (Tucker, Hyland), but they want to add a third.

I wonder why Gallinari would prefer either LAC or MIL to BOS?  Could it be that he feels jilted because the Celtics traded him?  If that is the case, I say come on, be a professional.

I guess LAC and MIL both have a chance at a title, but BOS would be the best chance (at least according to Vegas odds).  I would say his shot at playing time is about the same in all cases.  For the Celtics, he would have to beat out Kornet and/or Brissett and/or Tillman.

We don't know if the Celts offered him a contract.  But, LA is a bigger city with better weather.  If you are not going to see the floor in either place, I can understand choosing Los Angeles.  He played there previously and had the best season of his career. He played their previously and had the best season of his career. Plus, he feels like Brad lied to him.  I don't believe that being upset by that makes somebody unprofessional.

If an employer betrayed me like that then yeah I'd be upset too. I'd go to an opposing team and help them ring-chase instead. Or if I'm not gonna be seeing the floor, then I go with what's best for me and the fam (warm weather vs cold weather, etc). Human nature.

But NBA is a business after all.

They held on to him all the way through his rehab despite him never playing a single second for the Celtics after injuring himself playing for Italy in the Eurobasket tournament. Then when they did trade him, it was for Porzingis who has clearly been the missing piece for this team. We also moved the beloved Marcus Smart in that deal, and had very few other options available to make that trade work without including Galinari. I don't see how someone can take that personally.

Re: NBA Season 2023-24
« Reply #3252 on: February 15, 2024, 04:40:31 PM »

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Seems to me the lakers plays better without James
they have a similar record, but James is still +5.5 in on off differential per 100.

I don't know how good LAL can be or if LeBron and Davis will hold up.  But what I see is that LeBron and Davis, when healthy, are still two of the best players in the league.  I think it is foolish to think they would be better without LeBron.  They may or may not be a true contender with LeBron, but they are going nowhere without him.  You don't need any advanced stats to know this.  Just go old school and apply common sense.
Lebron is still a very good player, but he can’t completely put a team on his back like he could for an insanely long time. The lakers have two major flaws on their roster. They don’t have enough shooting and they have some of the leagues worst perimeter defense with Reaves and Russell. Dinwiddie does very little to help these areas and they made no changes. Worse their best perimeter defender Vanderbilt may very well be out for the season. They had a fluky run to the conference finals last year beating a team with a completely injured frontcourt and a team with awful chemistry. This caused some guys like Rui to get overpaid and for them to not address some real weaknesses. Christian wood and Vincent have also not really worked out.


Re: NBA Season 2023-24
« Reply #3253 on: February 15, 2024, 04:51:36 PM »

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Seems to me the lakers plays better without James
they have a similar record, but James is still +5.5 in on off differential per 100.

I don't know how good LAL can be or if LeBron and Davis will hold up.  But what I see is that LeBron and Davis, when healthy, are still two of the best players in the league.  I think it is foolish to think they would be better without LeBron.  They may or may not be a true contender with LeBron, but they are going nowhere without him.  You don't need any advanced stats to know this.  Just go old school and apply common sense.
Lebron is still a very good player, but he can’t completely put a team on his back like he could for an insanely long time. The lakers have two major flaws on their roster. They don’t have enough shooting and they have some of the leagues worst perimeter defense with Reaves and Russell. Dinwiddie does very little to help these areas and they made no changes. Worse their best perimeter defender Vanderbilt may very well be out for the season. They had a fluky run to the conference finals last year beating a team with a completely injured frontcourt and a team with awful chemistry. This caused some guys like Rui to get overpaid and for them to not address some real weaknesses. Christian wood and Vincent have also not really worked out.

I'm quite surprised that Lebron was not on board for a trade to the GSWs. He knows he isn't winning with this Lakers team and he would have at least had a shot for one more ring and a chance to play with Curry , CP3 and Draymond. I have to think he's content with playing out his final seasons at a leisurely pace and enjoying life in LA.

Re: NBA Season 2023-24
« Reply #3254 on: February 15, 2024, 04:55:29 PM »

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Seems to me the lakers plays better without James
they have a similar record, but James is still +5.5 in on off differential per 100.

I don't know how good LAL can be or if LeBron and Davis will hold up.  But what I see is that LeBron and Davis, when healthy, are still two of the best players in the league.  I think it is foolish to think they would be better without LeBron.  They may or may not be a true contender with LeBron, but they are going nowhere without him.  You don't need any advanced stats to know this.  Just go old school and apply common sense.
Lebron is still a very good player, but he can’t completely put a team on his back like he could for an insanely long time. The lakers have two major flaws on their roster. They don’t have enough shooting and they have some of the leagues worst perimeter defense with Reaves and Russell. Dinwiddie does very little to help these areas and they made no changes. Worse their best perimeter defender Vanderbilt may very well be out for the season. They had a fluky run to the conference finals last year beating a team with a completely injured frontcourt and a team with awful chemistry. This caused some guys like Rui to get overpaid and for them to not address some real weaknesses. Christian wood and Vincent have also not really worked out.

They are also lacking in ball-handling and passing in addition to outside shooting. We'll see if Dinwiddie can fix that or if they will still be short-handed but it's been a problem all season long for them.

Also a lack of quality interior play aside from Anthony Davis. Starting Taureen Prince over Vanderbilt cost them a big man defender & rebounder in favour of a perimeter player. Their backup big men haven't worked out. Jaxson Hayes is dumb. They do not know what to do with Christian Wood.

They don't like the lineup balance when Wood is at PF or when he is at C. LeBron just wants a big man who will defend, rebound and dunk when he passes him the ball. He doesn't make use of Wood's extra offensive talent. So Wood just becomes a liability as an undersized center when they play him there. And they have been strangely uncommitted to trying to find a way to make Wood work at PF alongside AD with LeBron at SF preferring again Taureen Prince.

A team with a lot of issues.