Report: Lillard requests trade

[jpotter33]

Nets make the most sense from a trade standpoint.

The TPE they created from the Joe Harris trade yesterday means they can absorb the remaining 3 years of Jusuf Nurkic's salary in a separate deal to give Portland additional salary relief (especially important because they're still going to honor that absurd Jerami Grant deal). Then the main Lilliard deal could be Ben Simmons (salary filler, and just 2 years. Take a flier on the chance that he rehabilitates himself), Nic Claxton, Cam Thomas, and a bunch of those picks they got from Phoenix.

They do clearly have the best trade package if they go aggressively. It’ll be interesting to see how much Portland acquiesces to Dame’s demand to be in Miami at a much worse reported package.

[hpantazo]

Nets make the most sense from a trade standpoint.

The TPE they created from the Joe Harris trade yesterday means they can absorb the remaining 3 years of Jusuf Nurkic's salary in a separate deal to give Portland additional salary relief (especially important because they're still going to honor that absurd Jerami Grant deal). Then the main Lilliard deal could be Ben Simmons (salary filler, and just 2 years. Take a flier on the chance that he rehabilitates himself), Nic Claxton, Cam Thomas, and a bunch of those picks they got from Phoenix.

They do clearly have the best trade package if they go aggressively. It’ll be interesting to see how much Portland acquiesces to Dame’s demand to be in Miami at a much worse reported package.

How is that an improved situation from Lillard's perspective though? I don't see that Nets team sniffing contention. He is better off stating in Portland.

[celticsclay]

Nets make the most sense from a trade standpoint.

The TPE they created from the Joe Harris trade yesterday means they can absorb the remaining 3 years of Jusuf Nurkic's salary in a separate deal to give Portland additional salary relief (especially important because they're still going to honor that absurd Jerami Grant deal). Then the main Lilliard deal could be Ben Simmons (salary filler, and just 2 years. Take a flier on the chance that he rehabilitates himself), Nic Claxton, Cam Thomas, and a bunch of those picks they got from Phoenix.

They do clearly have the best trade package if they go aggressively. It’ll be interesting to see how much Portland acquiesces to Dame’s demand to be in Miami at a much worse reported package.

If they did this trade and their team is Lilliard, bridges, nurkic, dinwiddie and dfs how is there any better than what portland had the last few years?

[RJ87]

Nets make the most sense from a trade standpoint.

The TPE they created from the Joe Harris trade yesterday means they can absorb the remaining 3 years of Jusuf Nurkic's salary in a separate deal to give Portland additional salary relief (especially important because they're still going to honor that absurd Jerami Grant deal). Then the main Lilliard deal could be Ben Simmons (salary filler, and just 2 years. Take a flier on the chance that he rehabilitates himself), Nic Claxton, Cam Thomas, and a bunch of those picks they got from Phoenix.

They do clearly have the best trade package if they go aggressively. It’ll be interesting to see how much Portland acquiesces to Dame’s demand to be in Miami at a much worse reported package.

I don't know much about their GM, but they should tell Dame they will work with him to get him to a team he prefers, but it has to be a deal that leaves the franchise in a good place.

He doesn't have an NTC and he has multiple years left on his deal, so they don't have to play ball at all. That said, he's been their franchise guy for a decade so they should try to send him somewhere he wants to go, but he's the most valuable asset they have so they have do a deal that benefits them.

[celticsclay]

We have an elite defender in White to form the back court with Lillard.
Tatum is a good defender and then you have the twin towers (Timelord and the Zinger) to defend the rim.
Defensively we're fine. It's ball handling and playmaking what we need and Lillard is top notch in that regard.

Robert Williams is 6’8 or 6’9 that has to be the shortest guy I have seen used as part of the term twin towers.

[RJ87]

Nets make the most sense from a trade standpoint.

The TPE they created from the Joe Harris trade yesterday means they can absorb the remaining 3 years of Jusuf Nurkic's salary in a separate deal to give Portland additional salary relief (especially important because they're still going to honor that absurd Jerami Grant deal). Then the main Lilliard deal could be Ben Simmons (salary filler, and just 2 years. Take a flier on the chance that he rehabilitates himself), Nic Claxton, Cam Thomas, and a bunch of those picks they got from Phoenix.

They do clearly have the best trade package if they go aggressively. It’ll be interesting to see how much Portland acquiesces to Dame’s demand to be in Miami at a much worse reported package.

How is that an improved situation from Lillard's perspective though? I don't see that Nets team sniffing contention. He is better off stating in Portland.

That depends on if you believe in Mikal Bridges. And then you have another good young wing in Cam Johnson, suitable roleplayers in Royce O'Neal and Dorian Finney Smith.

They'd have to fill out the roster with more guys, but that's easily the best wing talent Lilliard will have played with. Then the old reliable pick & roll game with Nurkic.

That team isn't as good on paper as Miami, but it's still good.

[celticsclay]

Nets make the most sense from a trade standpoint.

The TPE they created from the Joe Harris trade yesterday means they can absorb the remaining 3 years of Jusuf Nurkic's salary in a separate deal to give Portland additional salary relief (especially important because they're still going to honor that absurd Jerami Grant deal). Then the main Lilliard deal could be Ben Simmons (salary filler, and just 2 years. Take a flier on the chance that he rehabilitates himself), Nic Claxton, Cam Thomas, and a bunch of those picks they got from Phoenix.

They do clearly have the best trade package if they go aggressively. It’ll be interesting to see how much Portland acquiesces to Dame’s demand to be in Miami at a much worse reported package.

How is that an improved situation from Lillard's perspective though? I don't see that Nets team sniffing contention. He is better off stating in Portland.

That depends on if you believe in Mikal Bridges. And then you have another good young wing in Cam Johnson, suitable roleplayers in Royce O'Neal and Dorian Finney Smith.

They'd have to fill out the roster with more guys, but that's easily the best wing talent Lilliard will have played with. Then the old reliable pick & roll game with Nurkic.

That team isn't as good on paper as Miami, but it's still good.

Think they would have to give up at least cam Thomas to get Lilliard.

[RJ87]

Nets make the most sense from a trade standpoint.

The TPE they created from the Joe Harris trade yesterday means they can absorb the remaining 3 years of Jusuf Nurkic's salary in a separate deal to give Portland additional salary relief (especially important because they're still going to honor that absurd Jerami Grant deal). Then the main Lilliard deal could be Ben Simmons (salary filler, and just 2 years. Take a flier on the chance that he rehabilitates himself), Nic Claxton, Cam Thomas, and a bunch of those picks they got from Phoenix.

They do clearly have the best trade package if they go aggressively. It’ll be interesting to see how much Portland acquiesces to Dame’s demand to be in Miami at a much worse reported package.

How is that an improved situation from Lillard's perspective though? I don't see that Nets team sniffing contention. He is better off stating in Portland.

That depends on if you believe in Mikal Bridges. And then you have another good young wing in Cam Johnson, suitable roleplayers in Royce O'Neal and Dorian Finney Smith.

They'd have to fill out the roster with more guys, but that's easily the best wing talent Lilliard will have played with. Then the old reliable pick & roll game with Nurkic.

That team isn't as good on paper as Miami, but it's still good.

Think they would have to give up at least cam Thomas to get Lilliard.

I said Cam Johnson, not Cam Thomas.

[celticsclay]

Nets make the most sense from a trade standpoint.

The TPE they created from the Joe Harris trade yesterday means they can absorb the remaining 3 years of Jusuf Nurkic's salary in a separate deal to give Portland additional salary relief (especially important because they're still going to honor that absurd Jerami Grant deal). Then the main Lilliard deal could be Ben Simmons (salary filler, and just 2 years. Take a flier on the chance that he rehabilitates himself), Nic Claxton, Cam Thomas, and a bunch of those picks they got from Phoenix.

They do clearly have the best trade package if they go aggressively. It’ll be interesting to see how much Portland acquiesces to Dame’s demand to be in Miami at a much worse reported package.

How is that an improved situation from Lillard's perspective though? I don't see that Nets team sniffing contention. He is better off stating in Portland.

That depends on if you believe in Mikal Bridges. And then you have another good young wing in Cam Johnson, suitable roleplayers in Royce O'Neal and Dorian Finney Smith.

They'd have to fill out the roster with more guys, but that's easily the best wing talent Lilliard will have played with. Then the old reliable pick & roll game with Nurkic.

That team isn't as good on paper as Miami, but it's still good.

Think they would have to give up at least cam Thomas to get Lilliard.

I said Cam Johnson, not Cam Thomas.

My bad, either way that team really isn’t very scary. Nurkic is not a caliber starting center. If bridges becomes a true star it could make ecf if everything broke right but don’t see that team as competitive with Celtics or bucks.

[RJ87]

Nets make the most sense from a trade standpoint.

The TPE they created from the Joe Harris trade yesterday means they can absorb the remaining 3 years of Jusuf Nurkic's salary in a separate deal to give Portland additional salary relief (especially important because they're still going to honor that absurd Jerami Grant deal). Then the main Lilliard deal could be Ben Simmons (salary filler, and just 2 years. Take a flier on the chance that he rehabilitates himself), Nic Claxton, Cam Thomas, and a bunch of those picks they got from Phoenix.

They do clearly have the best trade package if they go aggressively. It’ll be interesting to see how much Portland acquiesces to Dame’s demand to be in Miami at a much worse reported package.

How is that an improved situation from Lillard's perspective though? I don't see that Nets team sniffing contention. He is better off stating in Portland.

That depends on if you believe in Mikal Bridges. And then you have another good young wing in Cam Johnson, suitable roleplayers in Royce O'Neal and Dorian Finney Smith.

They'd have to fill out the roster with more guys, but that's easily the best wing talent Lilliard will have played with. Then the old reliable pick & roll game with Nurkic.

That team isn't as good on paper as Miami, but it's still good.

Think they would have to give up at least cam Thomas to get Lilliard.

I said Cam Johnson, not Cam Thomas.

My bad, either way that team really isn’t very scary. Nurkic is not a caliber starting center. If bridges becomes a true star it could make ecf if everything broke right but don’t see that team as competitive with Celtics or bucks.

Again, it depends on if you think Mikal is legit and if what he showed in his 27 games in Brooklyn last season can carry over. I don't really see why it wouldn't (he actually improved his efficiency going from the #4 option in Phoenix to the #1 option on the Nets). He's one of a few guys I'd trade Jaylen Brown for. 

[Irish Stew]

It kind of shocked me that on Real GM you could do Brogdon and White for Lillard. If that's not correct, my apologies. Of course, nobody wants to give up White, but a trade has to be equally painful and rewarding for both teams to be a doable trade Derrick is a very nice player but Dame is a Hall of Fame player. We would have to add draft picks and Portland would have little interest in Brogdon so he would have to be moved to a third team for pick(s) and younger player(s). This would be maybe a pseudo-contender like LAC, Memphis, Philly, Dallas, or Cleveland.

The other issue going forward is ownership, I can't afford to own the Celtics so I never submitted a bid when they were for sale. If present ownership can't hack it financially in the future, then they need to sell to a Paul Allen or Mark Cuban type. Ownership needs to know that we know that the present ownership has achieved a massive capital appreciation on the value of the team and needs to spend whatever it takes within the new rules.

[liam]

We have an elite defender in White to form the back court with Lillard.
Tatum is a good defender and then you have the twin towers (Timelord and the Zinger) to defend the rim.
Defensively we're fine. It's ball handling and playmaking what we need and Lillard is top notch in that regard.

Robert Williams is 6’8 or 6’9 that has to be the shortest guy I have seen used as part of the term twin towers.

6'9" with a 7'6" wingspan. Bam is 6'9" with a 7'1" wingspan.

[Who]

Would The Grizzles trade Ja and pieces for Lillard? That makes the Grizz a major contender. Ja doesn't fit with Scoot as starters but Portland should be in the asset collecting mode.

Ooh, that is a nice idea. I like that. Agree on Lillard making Memphis a legit contender. That would be a fun group.

Memphis should do that deal.

Morant is likely far far better than anything anyone else will offer. They can trade Scoot somewhere else.

[jpotter33]

https://twitter.com/chrisbhaynes/status/1675238022953172993?s=46&t=lGU0TGXtwjkuVuoin6WTNw

A potential Portland-Miami deal for Damian Lillard would almost certainly include the involvement of a third team, league sources tell @NBAonTNT, @BleacherReport.

Portland making it clear that Miami doesn’t have enough of what they want for this to work out.

There’s the making of a monster four way trade here built around something like:

Miami - Lillard

LAC - Harden

Philly - Herro

Portland - picks, young players

But I don’t think Miami will be able to get it done themselves.

[jpotter33]

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1675253396628963329?s=46&t=lGU0TGXtwjkuVuoin6WTNw

Blazers’ Joe Cronin: “We have been clear that we want Dame here but he notified us today he wants out and he’d prefer to play someplace else. What has not changed for us is that we’re committed to winning, and we are going to do what’s best for the team in pursuit of that goal.”

Front offices talking to Portland today were left with impression that GM Joe Cronin is pursuing a star-level return package for Damian Lillard – and that Cronin plans to look well beyond the Miami Heat to find one.

Good for them.