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Re: NBA Summer League 2023
« Reply #135 on: July 09, 2023, 09:25:46 PM »

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James Wiseman is still playing summer league. Lol.

GS made a huuuggeee mistake not trading that pick.
No they made a huge mistake not taking Lamelo.

I mean, they had PG pretty well covered with Steph Curry. Teams would have likely paid a boat load for the pick.
Lamelo is 6'7".  He'd be fine.

Needs the ball in his hand. He’s not an off-guard.

Curry can play on or off the ball.

You think they’d let a rookie PG run the offense for that team? I don’t. That’s Steph’s team.
Lamelo only started 31 of the 51 games he played in Charlotte as a rookie.  I see no reason why he couldn't have done that for 39-33 Golden State that didn't have Klay Thompson at all that season.

I’ll play along. So what about his sophomore year? Would he just continue to come off the bench or do you  think GS gives him the keys to the offense at that point. There’s a reason the Warriors drafted Wiseman and not Ball.
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Re: NBA Summer League 2023
« Reply #136 on: July 09, 2023, 09:36:12 PM »

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Webanyama looked much better tonight. He played 27mins and had 27pts, 12rebs, 3blks. 9-14 from the field, 2-4 from deep.
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At some point you have to blame the performance on the court on the players on the court. Every loss is not the coach's fault and every win isn't because of the players.

Re: NBA Summer League 2023
« Reply #137 on: July 09, 2023, 10:16:44 PM »

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Webanyama looked much better tonight. He played 27mins and had 27pts, 12rebs, 3blks. 9-14 from the field, 2-4 from deep.
I think he’ll be a fast learner. And better when the weird **** drama is behind him (what an odd sentence to type in 2023)
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Re: NBA Summer League 2023
« Reply #138 on: July 10, 2023, 10:53:15 AM »

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James Wiseman is still playing summer league. Lol.

GS made a huuuggeee mistake not trading that pick.
No they made a huge mistake not taking Lamelo.

I mean, they had PG pretty well covered with Steph Curry. Teams would have likely paid a boat load for the pick.
Lamelo is 6'7".  He'd be fine.

Needs the ball in his hand. He’s not an off-guard.

Curry can play on or off the ball.

You think they’d let a rookie PG run the offense for that team? I don’t. That’s Steph’s team.
Lamelo only started 31 of the 51 games he played in Charlotte as a rookie.  I see no reason why he couldn't have done that for 39-33 Golden State that didn't have Klay Thompson at all that season.

I’ll play along. So what about his sophomore year? Would he just continue to come off the bench or do you  think GS gives him the keys to the offense at that point. There’s a reason the Warriors drafted Wiseman and not Ball.
you mean the year Poole started 51 games.  Lamelo would have been starting that season along with Curry and Wiggins.  Then this year, he would have been starting with Curry and Klay and they almost certainly wouldn't have retained Poole and perhaps not Wiggins.

Lamelo was always the right choice for the Warriors.  The talent was immense.  The Warriors drafted for need instead of bpa and that was their mistake.  I was really pushing on this board and hoping the Warriors would trade the pick to Boston so we could take Lamelo.  I wanted him badly, but alas the Warriors didn't want Smart, 14, and some future picks for 2.  Definitely was bummed they kept the pick.
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Re: NBA Summer League 2023
« Reply #139 on: July 10, 2023, 11:01:33 AM »

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Brandon Miller 4-18 FG 10pts 4ast 8reb yesterday.

Jabari Smith Jr another big game. 38pts 13-25 FG 9-10 FT 7reb 6ast. Cam Whitmore 21pts 9-16 FG

Coulibaly 11pts 5reb.

Shaedon Sharpe 4-18 FG 9pts.

Dyson Daniels 17pts 15reb 8ast 2stl 2blk. Filling the stat sheet.

Podziemski 3-16 FG 10pts but 9reb and 10ast. He continues to pull down a lot of boards despite being a small SG and not that athletic. Just like he did in college.
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Re: NBA Summer League 2023
« Reply #140 on: July 10, 2023, 02:21:50 PM »

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Azubuike had highlights in game two:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7H_LA_xuFyg&t=2s

Re: NBA Summer League 2023
« Reply #141 on: July 10, 2023, 02:28:57 PM »

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James Wiseman is still playing summer league. Lol.

GS made a huuuggeee mistake not trading that pick.
No they made a huge mistake not taking Lamelo.

I mean, they had PG pretty well covered with Steph Curry. Teams would have likely paid a boat load for the pick.
Lamelo is 6'7".  He'd be fine.

Needs the ball in his hand. He’s not an off-guard.

Curry can play on or off the ball.

You think they’d let a rookie PG run the offense for that team? I don’t. That’s Steph’s team.
Lamelo only started 31 of the 51 games he played in Charlotte as a rookie.  I see no reason why he couldn't have done that for 39-33 Golden State that didn't have Klay Thompson at all that season.

I’ll play along. So what about his sophomore year? Would he just continue to come off the bench or do you  think GS gives him the keys to the offense at that point. There’s a reason the Warriors drafted Wiseman and not Ball.
you mean the year Poole started 51 games.  Lamelo would have been starting that season along with Curry and Wiggins.  Then this year, he would have been starting with Curry and Klay and they almost certainly wouldn't have retained Poole and perhaps not Wiggins.

Lamelo was always the right choice for the Warriors.  The talent was immense.  The Warriors drafted for need instead of bpa and that was their mistake.  I was really pushing on this board and hoping the Warriors would trade the pick to Boston so we could take Lamelo.  I wanted him badly, but alas the Warriors didn't want Smart, 14, and some future picks for 2.  Definitely was bummed they kept the pick.

Again, LaMelo needs the ball in his hands. Poole is a shooting guard, he can play off ball. During the draft,  Wiseman was as good a prospect and the Warriors had a need for a 5. The best route was to trade the pick.
« Last Edit: July 10, 2023, 02:48:33 PM by Goldstar88 »
Quoting Nick from the now locked Ime thread:
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At some point you have to blame the performance on the court on the players on the court. Every loss is not the coach's fault and every win isn't because of the players.

Re: NBA Summer League 2023
« Reply #142 on: July 10, 2023, 03:02:31 PM »

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James Wiseman is still playing summer league. Lol.

GS made a huuuggeee mistake not trading that pick.
No they made a huge mistake not taking Lamelo.

I mean, they had PG pretty well covered with Steph Curry. Teams would have likely paid a boat load for the pick.
Lamelo is 6'7".  He'd be fine.

Needs the ball in his hand. He’s not an off-guard.

Curry can play on or off the ball.

You think they’d let a rookie PG run the offense for that team? I don’t. That’s Steph’s team.
Lamelo only started 31 of the 51 games he played in Charlotte as a rookie.  I see no reason why he couldn't have done that for 39-33 Golden State that didn't have Klay Thompson at all that season.

I’ll play along. So what about his sophomore year? Would he just continue to come off the bench or do you  think GS gives him the keys to the offense at that point. There’s a reason the Warriors drafted Wiseman and not Ball.
you mean the year Poole started 51 games.  Lamelo would have been starting that season along with Curry and Wiggins.  Then this year, he would have been starting with Curry and Klay and they almost certainly wouldn't have retained Poole and perhaps not Wiggins.

Lamelo was always the right choice for the Warriors.  The talent was immense.  The Warriors drafted for need instead of bpa and that was their mistake.  I was really pushing on this board and hoping the Warriors would trade the pick to Boston so we could take Lamelo.  I wanted him badly, but alas the Warriors didn't want Smart, 14, and some future picks for 2.  Definitely was bummed they kept the pick.

Again, LaMelo needs the ball in his hands. Poole is a shooting guard, he can play off ball. During the draft,  Wiseman was as good a prospect and the Warriors had a need for a 5. The best route was to trade the pick.

Always draft for talent and not for fit.

Re: NBA Summer League 2023
« Reply #143 on: July 10, 2023, 03:16:50 PM »

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James Wiseman is still playing summer league. Lol.

GS made a huuuggeee mistake not trading that pick.
No they made a huge mistake not taking Lamelo.

I mean, they had PG pretty well covered with Steph Curry. Teams would have likely paid a boat load for the pick.
Lamelo is 6'7".  He'd be fine.

Needs the ball in his hand. He’s not an off-guard.

Curry can play on or off the ball.

You think they’d let a rookie PG run the offense for that team? I don’t. That’s Steph’s team.
Lamelo only started 31 of the 51 games he played in Charlotte as a rookie.  I see no reason why he couldn't have done that for 39-33 Golden State that didn't have Klay Thompson at all that season.

I’ll play along. So what about his sophomore year? Would he just continue to come off the bench or do you  think GS gives him the keys to the offense at that point. There’s a reason the Warriors drafted Wiseman and not Ball.
you mean the year Poole started 51 games.  Lamelo would have been starting that season along with Curry and Wiggins.  Then this year, he would have been starting with Curry and Klay and they almost certainly wouldn't have retained Poole and perhaps not Wiggins.

Lamelo was always the right choice for the Warriors.  The talent was immense.  The Warriors drafted for need instead of bpa and that was their mistake.  I was really pushing on this board and hoping the Warriors would trade the pick to Boston so we could take Lamelo.  I wanted him badly, but alas the Warriors didn't want Smart, 14, and some future picks for 2.  Definitely was bummed they kept the pick.

Again, LaMelo needs the ball in his hands. Poole is a shooting guard, he can play off ball. During the draft,  Wiseman was as good a prospect and the Warriors had a need for a 5. The best route was to trade the pick.

Always draft for talent and not for fit.

I agree in general, but I don't think Lamelo and Curry would be great fits like I don't think Scoot and Lillard are great fits. All four want to be alphas. I think Lonzo is the Ball that is more likely to give up the rock than his flashier little brother.
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Re: NBA Summer League 2023
« Reply #144 on: July 10, 2023, 03:23:54 PM »

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James Wiseman is still playing summer league. Lol.

GS made a huuuggeee mistake not trading that pick.
No they made a huge mistake not taking Lamelo.

I mean, they had PG pretty well covered with Steph Curry. Teams would have likely paid a boat load for the pick.
Lamelo is 6'7".  He'd be fine.

Needs the ball in his hand. He’s not an off-guard.

Curry can play on or off the ball.

You think they’d let a rookie PG run the offense for that team? I don’t. That’s Steph’s team.
Lamelo only started 31 of the 51 games he played in Charlotte as a rookie.  I see no reason why he couldn't have done that for 39-33 Golden State that didn't have Klay Thompson at all that season.

I’ll play along. So what about his sophomore year? Would he just continue to come off the bench or do you  think GS gives him the keys to the offense at that point. There’s a reason the Warriors drafted Wiseman and not Ball.
you mean the year Poole started 51 games.  Lamelo would have been starting that season along with Curry and Wiggins.  Then this year, he would have been starting with Curry and Klay and they almost certainly wouldn't have retained Poole and perhaps not Wiggins.

Lamelo was always the right choice for the Warriors.  The talent was immense.  The Warriors drafted for need instead of bpa and that was their mistake.  I was really pushing on this board and hoping the Warriors would trade the pick to Boston so we could take Lamelo.  I wanted him badly, but alas the Warriors didn't want Smart, 14, and some future picks for 2.  Definitely was bummed they kept the pick.

Again, LaMelo needs the ball in his hands. Poole is a shooting guard, he can play off ball. During the draft,  Wiseman was as good a prospect and the Warriors had a need for a 5. The best route was to trade the pick.

Always draft for talent and not for fit.

I agree in general, but I don't think Lamelo and Curry would be great fits like I don't think Scoot and Lillard are great fits. All four want to be alphas. I think Lonzo is the Ball that is more likely to give up the rock than his flashier little brother.

He could've backed up Curry and Curry can play off ball in over lapping minutes and if it doesn't work at all you trade him for value.
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Re: NBA Summer League 2023
« Reply #145 on: July 10, 2023, 05:11:49 PM »

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Tim Bontemps: Victor Wenbanyama is officially done for the rest of Summer League, sources confirmed to ESPN, after he bounced back from a rough opening game Friday against Charlotte with a stellar 27-point, 12-rebound performance Sunday against Portland. @mikefinger was first with the news.  – via Twitter TimBontemps

Highlights:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=grm6Xoum2e0&pp=ygURdmljdG9yIHdlbWJhbnlhbWE%3D
« Last Edit: July 10, 2023, 05:29:28 PM by Goldstar88 »
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At some point you have to blame the performance on the court on the players on the court. Every loss is not the coach's fault and every win isn't because of the players.

Re: NBA Summer League 2023
« Reply #146 on: July 10, 2023, 05:31:55 PM »

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Tim Bontemps: Victor Wenbanyama is officially done for the rest of Summer League, sources confirmed to ESPN, after he bounced back from a rough opening game Friday against Charlotte with a stellar 27-point, 12-rebound performance Sunday against Portland. @mikefinger was first with the news.  – via Twitter TimBontemps

Highlights:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=grm6Xoum2e0&pp=ygURdmljdG9yIHdlbWJhbnlhbWE%3D
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Re: NBA Summer League 2023
« Reply #147 on: July 11, 2023, 09:24:07 AM »

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I normally don't like players like Kevonte George. I took a brief look at his stats and scouting report before the draft and said, "Nah. I'm good."

But I've watched a few summer league games of his now. I think he's the real deal. It's unclear to me whether he has the potential to be more Anfernee Simons or the next step up, but either way, I think he's got a lot of talent.

He is so quick and plays so hard. He draws fouls at a really high level already and I like his defensive instincts.

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« Reply #148 on: July 11, 2023, 09:51:51 AM »

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Azubuike had highlights in game two:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7H_LA_xuFyg&t=2s
I always thought of Azubuike as being huge, but he looked average in those highlights. He is either smaller than I thought, or WAS SL roster was huge.

EDIT: He's listed as 6'11 and 270 at quick glance. No way he is that big haha.
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Re: NBA Summer League 2023
« Reply #149 on: July 11, 2023, 10:07:05 AM »

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Azubuike had highlights in game two:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7H_LA_xuFyg&t=2s
I always thought of Azubuike as being huge, but he looked average in those highlights. He is either smaller than I thought, or WAS SL roster was huge.

I went back and checked his combine measurements.  He was 6'-10" (w/o shoes), 260 lbs, 7'-7.25" wingspan.  ESPN lists him at the same height but 280 lbs (not surprising he could have gained some bulk).  I don't know what qualifies as "huge", but I think he has plenty of size to be a NBA big.  I thought he looked pretty good in the second game (not so much in the first game).  I would take him by a mile over Kabengele on a 2-way, but he probably finds a place on a roster somewhere.  He is 23 now, 24 in Sept., so not a "kid" anymore.