Beal traded for bag of balls

[gouki88]

I know people probably think there are redundancies with KD, Booker and Beal and only one ball to share, but the fact they were able to give up so little to get him provides the ability to make additional moves to round out the rest of their roster with complementary players.  Injury risk is obviously a factor with both Beal and KD, but if healthy they’re gonna be a problem.

They're cleaned out from dealing a bunch of assets for KD. In free agency, they have the taxpayer MLE ($5m) the BLE ($4.4m) but they can't trade any more picks and they're tapped on tradeable salary. They're best hope for getting some depth would be dealing Deandre Ayton for multiple players.

The Suns are way too far above the apron to dream about the BAE, and most likely they’ll be above the second apron and lose the MLE, assuming that rule takes effect this year.  They can use Bird rights to being back guys like Craig and Landale, but otherwise, yes, they need to trade Ayton for 2-3 rotation players.

I wonder if Dallas is an option there. Role players with solid salaries to match Ayton's, and a glaring need for a quality big man.

[scaryjerry]

Bradley Beal has among the worst contracts in the history of sports and hasn’t been that good in 2-3 years
Fresh start for the wizards!

Also not sure all the hype surrounding Beal being on the suns…he’s a very poor man’s Devin booker, not sure how good that fit is going to be.

[Redz]

Anyone else feel like Beal is on a Kemba trajectory at this point in his career?

[green_bballers13]

Anyone else feel like Beal is on a Kemba trajectory at this point in his career?

I do. I think his best days are behind him. I don't want to pay for past performance, especially if that performance was with another team. If he has won a couple rings for our squad- sure, overpay him.

[Donoghus]

Anyone else feel like Beal is on a Kemba trajectory at this point in his career?

I do. I think his best days are behind him. I don't want to pay for past performance, especially if that performance was with another team. If he has won a couple rings for our squad- sure, overpay him.

That contract really is scary. He'll be making over $50M/year starting with his age 32 season.

[obnoxiousmime]

Lesson in Beal debacle: Under no circumstances do Celtics give Brown trade approval rights. Also hoping he doesn’t negotiate option on his 5 th year, as this will increase his trade value should we reach that decision later on.

Tatum should deserve the NTC more than Brown. Then again I'd also be scared if he demands to go to Lakers or Warriors since he can choose where he wanna play, etc. That is why C's need to win now to please teammates like him, entice them to stay and be happy in green long-term and possibly a franchise player.

Beal being unwilling to discard the no-trade after the deal was apparently a concern for Miami, and it's easy to see how it would have been a concern for Boston as well. Brown needs to be extended soon and he's often talked about how much trade rumors bothered him. If Beal is on the team and he has a no-trade clause, how can you tell a guy that's been on the team much longer that he can't have one? Then Tatum is going to want one, because he should have whatever Brown has. You can see how quickly this becomes a house of cards, in addition to the enormous contract and CBA restrictions they would face.

[Celtics2021]

Lesson in Beal debacle: Under no circumstances do Celtics give Brown trade approval rights. Also hoping he doesn’t negotiate option on his 5 th year, as this will increase his trade value should we reach that decision later on.

The good news is that Jaylen isn’t eligible for a no-trade clause on a deal signed this summer, so he’s not getting one even if he asks, unless a change to that rule was snuck into the new CBA.

[Kernewek]

Lesson in Beal debacle: Under no circumstances do Celtics give Brown trade approval rights. Also hoping he doesn’t negotiate option on his 5 th year, as this will increase his trade value should we reach that decision later on.

Tatum should deserve the NTC more than Brown. Then again I'd also be scared if he demands to go to Lakers or Warriors since he can choose where he wanna play, etc. That is why C's need to win now to please teammates like him, entice them to stay and be happy in green long-term and possibly a franchise player.

Beal being unwilling to discard the no-trade after the deal was apparently a concern for Miami, and it's easy to see how it would have been a concern for Boston as well. Brown needs to be extended soon and he's often talked about how much trade rumors bothered him. If Beal is on the team and he has a no-trade clause, how can you tell a guy that's been on the team much longer that he can't have one? Then Tatum is going to want one, because he should have whatever Brown has. You can see how quickly this becomes a house of cards, in addition to the enormous contract and CBA restrictions they would face.

There are a couple of incorrect statements here.

1) Players don't 'discard' no trade clauses like that - like everything else that's part of the contract, it isnot renegotiated with a new team if the player is traded.

2)As Celtics2021 said above, Brown cannot receive an NTC on his extension for two reasons:

• You can't add a no trade clause to an extension of a contract that doesn't contain an NTC. (In other words, it has to be a completely new contract/FA situation)
• You have to have eight years of NBA experience when the new contract is negotiated, which Brown doesn't/wouldn't. You're either eligible for an NTC when you sign the new contract or you're not.

Now, Tatum would be eligible for an NTC with us (and only us) on his next contract, but that's not for 2-3 seasons in the future anyway.

[obnoxiousmime]

Lesson in Beal debacle: Under no circumstances do Celtics give Brown trade approval rights. Also hoping he doesn’t negotiate option on his 5 th year, as this will increase his trade value should we reach that decision later on.

Tatum should deserve the NTC more than Brown. Then again I'd also be scared if he demands to go to Lakers or Warriors since he can choose where he wanna play, etc. That is why C's need to win now to please teammates like him, entice them to stay and be happy in green long-term and possibly a franchise player.

Beal being unwilling to discard the no-trade after the deal was apparently a concern for Miami, and it's easy to see how it would have been a concern for Boston as well. Brown needs to be extended soon and he's often talked about how much trade rumors bothered him. If Beal is on the team and he has a no-trade clause, how can you tell a guy that's been on the team much longer that he can't have one? Then Tatum is going to want one, because he should have whatever Brown has. You can see how quickly this becomes a house of cards, in addition to the enormous contract and CBA restrictions they would face.

There are a couple of incorrect statements here.

1) Players don't 'discard' no trade clauses like that - like everything else that's part of the contract, it isnot renegotiated with a new team if the player is traded.

2)As Celtics2021 said above, Brown cannot receive an NTC on his extension for two reasons:

• You can't add a no trade clause to an extension of a contract that doesn't contain an NTC. (In other words, it has to be a completely new contract/FA situation)
• You have to have eight years of NBA experience when the new contract is negotiated, which Brown doesn't/wouldn't. You're either eligible for an NTC when you sign the new contract or you're not.

Now, Tatum would be eligible for an NTC with us (and only us) on his next contract, but that's not for 2-3 seasons in the future anyway.

You're right, I forgot about those restrictions on Brown's eligibility. I thought there was some reporting on Beal not being willing to give up the no-trade though. Maybe that was incorrect, or I misunderstood.

[Kernewek]

Lesson in Beal debacle: Under no circumstances do Celtics give Brown trade approval rights. Also hoping he doesn’t negotiate option on his 5 th year, as this will increase his trade value should we reach that decision later on.

Tatum should deserve the NTC more than Brown. Then again I'd also be scared if he demands to go to Lakers or Warriors since he can choose where he wanna play, etc. That is why C's need to win now to please teammates like him, entice them to stay and be happy in green long-term and possibly a franchise player.

Beal being unwilling to discard the no-trade after the deal was apparently a concern for Miami, and it's easy to see how it would have been a concern for Boston as well. Brown needs to be extended soon and he's often talked about how much trade rumors bothered him. If Beal is on the team and he has a no-trade clause, how can you tell a guy that's been on the team much longer that he can't have one? Then Tatum is going to want one, because he should have whatever Brown has. You can see how quickly this becomes a house of cards, in addition to the enormous contract and CBA restrictions they would face.

There are a couple of incorrect statements here.

1) Players don't 'discard' no trade clauses like that - like everything else that's part of the contract, it isnot renegotiated with a new team if the player is traded.

2)As Celtics2021 said above, Brown cannot receive an NTC on his extension for two reasons:

• You can't add a no trade clause to an extension of a contract that doesn't contain an NTC. (In other words, it has to be a completely new contract/FA situation)
• You have to have eight years of NBA experience when the new contract is negotiated, which Brown doesn't/wouldn't. You're either eligible for an NTC when you sign the new contract or you're not.

Now, Tatum would be eligible for an NTC with us (and only us) on his next contract, but that's not for 2-3 seasons in the future anyway.

You're right, I forgot about those restrictions on Brown's eligibility. I thought there was some reporting on Beal not being willing to give up the no-trade though. Maybe that was incorrect, or I misunderstood.

No worries - a lot of time reporters will (incorrectly) say that players are 'waiving' their no trade clause, when actually they're just agreeing to the trade.

[gouki88]

Anyone else feel like Beal is on a Kemba trajectory at this point in his career?

Kemba's trajectory was fairly unique, similar to IT's. Went from All-Star to unplayable in 2 years.

Beal has already avoided that with his longevity

[cman88]

Anyone else feel like Beal is on a Kemba trajectory at this point in his career?

Kemba's trajectory was fairly unique, similar to IT's. Went from All-Star to unplayable in 2 years.

Beal has already avoided that with his longevity

I remember being so excited kemba signed here after we lost Kyrie and Horford to free agency. and He had some crazy "games played" streak of being durable with the Hornets.

then he completely fell apart here...

[Goldstar88]

Anyone else feel like Beal is on a Kemba trajectory at this point in his career?

Kemba's trajectory was fairly unique, similar to IT's. Went from All-Star to unplayable in 2 years.

Beal has already avoided that with his longevity

I agree. Beal is injury prone, but he can still play. He’s also not a small guard.  Kemba and IT just fell off a cliff.

[Ed Monix]

Saw this online and it gave me a good chuckle

[gouki88]

The 'bag of balls' turned out to be a pretty solid package