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Re: Bradley Beal?
« Reply #45 on: June 14, 2023, 03:22:29 PM »

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Nah...I'd rather do that Portland Trade for Simons/3rd pick
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Re: Bradley Beal?
« Reply #46 on: June 14, 2023, 03:32:53 PM »

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The Boston Celtics are NOT interested in Bradley Beal, per @WindhorstESPN

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Not that I think Windhorst has any kind of insider knowledge, but it makes sense. The new CBA makes having all three on super maxes unrealistic, and a trade of Brown for Beal doesn’t really make sense. There’s some potential options/three way trades where it could work, but hard to say we’re really better off with Beal over Brown.

Portland makes the most sense, though not sure they give up the third pick for him. Maybe something built around Simons?
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Re: Bradley Beal?
« Reply #47 on: June 14, 2023, 03:35:22 PM »

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Beal is hurt too much and Brown on a 1 year isn't attractive to Washington because he'd just leave.

This makes more sense for a team like Portland than us.
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Re: Bradley Beal?
« Reply #48 on: June 14, 2023, 03:36:04 PM »

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Miami makes the most sense to me for Beal.

Herro, D Robinson and a couple of 1sts.

Strong offer for a highly paid oft injured undersized 30yr old SG. Beal gets to join a title contender. He gets to play as a #2 next to Jimmy. He plays with Bam to make a Big 3. MIA gets the 2nd scorer they desperately need. Win-win.

Washington gets to rebuild. A young SG who replaces a good chunk of what Beal brings to the table. And a bunch of 1sts to aid their rebuilding effort.

Re: Bradley Beal?
« Reply #49 on: June 14, 2023, 03:40:58 PM »

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Miami makes the most sense to me for Beal.

Herro, D Robinson and a couple of 1sts.

Strong offer for a highly paid oft injured undersized 30yr old SG. Beal gets to join a title contender. He gets to play as a #2 next to Jimmy. He plays with Bam to make a Big 3. MIA gets the 2nd scorer they desperately need. Win-win.

Washington gets to rebuild. A young SG who replaces a good chunk of what Beal brings to the table. And a bunch of 1sts to aid their rebuilding effort.
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« Reply #50 on: June 14, 2023, 03:41:10 PM »

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The contract, the age, the defensive limitations, and the injury risk are too much to take on. Beal is a guy a more desperate franchise should go for.

Also, the new CBA just destroyed his market. Back when the penalty of being a tax team was mostly just money, it was easier to justify taking on an older player with a humongous deal. Now even the rich teams have got to be wondering how to cut salary into the future, not add it.

Re: Bradley Beal?
« Reply #51 on: June 14, 2023, 03:52:53 PM »

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Miami makes the most sense to me for Beal.

Herro, D Robinson and a couple of 1sts.

Strong offer for a highly paid oft injured undersized 30yr old SG. Beal gets to join a title contender. He gets to play as a #2 next to Jimmy. He plays with Bam to make a Big 3. MIA gets the 2nd scorer they desperately need. Win-win.

Washington gets to rebuild. A young SG who replaces a good chunk of what Beal brings to the table. And a bunch of 1sts to aid their rebuilding effort.

If this happens, then Boston might as well let Jaylen walk. If they can't beat a Miami team without Beal, what makes anyone think we can if they add an elite scorer? In other words, why have 2 supermax players, if they can't win a title.

The combination of the J's leads to regular season success, but doesn't translate come playoff time. Why can't we win home playoff games? Why do mediocre playoff teams push the Celtics to games 6 or 7? I think the Damian Lillard comments recently spoke volumes. What do other players around the league think about the Celtics that we don't know about? I don't know why no one sees this, especially management and ownership. If they give Jaylen a supermax, the Celtics will not win a title until after another rebuild. BTW, Marcus has to go to.

Re: Bradley Beal?
« Reply #52 on: June 14, 2023, 04:02:51 PM »

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League execs wondering about the future of Bradley Beal

Bradley Beal re-signed with the Washington Wizards last offseason on a five-year, $251 million and could be traded this offseason as Michael Winger takes over the front office. “Last week, Michael Winger, the new president of the Washington Wizards, said he has been given clearance from ownership to do a complete rebuild,” said Brian Windhorst on Get Up. “That has left everybody in the league wondering what about the future of Bradley Beal. – via RealGM


JB for BB might become a reality!

I saw elsewhere that Beal is one of the very few players with a no-trade clause.  That essentially means he can pick not only what destination he goes to, but can have a huge say in the compensation, too.

In other words, if Beal says "I'm only going to Boston, and I want Brown there", then Washington either makes that trade or deals with an unhappy Beal.

Theoretically, we could do Brogdon + Pritchard + Gallo + Kornet + Champagnie to make salaries work.  Of course, we'd then have a gigantically expensive team without a lot of avenues to improve.  But, among rotation players, it's Brogdon being converted into Beal.

Timelord / Horford / Kabengele
Tatum / Williams / Muscala
Brown / Hauser
Beal / White
Smart / Davidson

We'd basically have vet minimums, two-ways, and the #35 pick to fill out the roster.

Would you do it? Also would need to include several first round picks.
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Re: Bradley Beal?
« Reply #53 on: June 14, 2023, 04:06:23 PM »

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Rather have Towns than Beal
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« Reply #54 on: June 14, 2023, 04:12:29 PM »

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Miami makes the most sense to me for Beal.

Herro, D Robinson and a couple of 1sts.

Strong offer for a highly paid oft injured undersized 30yr old SG. Beal gets to join a title contender. He gets to play as a #2 next to Jimmy. He plays with Bam to make a Big 3. MIA gets the 2nd scorer they desperately need. Win-win.

Washington gets to rebuild. A young SG who replaces a good chunk of what Beal brings to the table. And a bunch of 1sts to aid their rebuilding effort.

If this happens, then Boston might as well let Jaylen walk. If they can't beat a Miami team without Beal, what makes anyone think we can if they add an elite scorer? In other words, why have 2 supermax players, if they can't win a title.

The combination of the J's leads to regular season success, but doesn't translate come playoff time. Why can't we win home playoff games? Why do mediocre playoff teams push the Celtics to games 6 or 7? I think the Damian Lillard comments recently spoke volumes. What do other players around the league think about the Celtics that we don't know about? I don't know why no one sees this, especially management and ownership. If they give Jaylen a supermax, the Celtics will not win a title until after another rebuild. BTW, Marcus has to go to.

We beat Miami last year.

Good on paper teams get assembled all the time (the Dwight/Kobe Lakers, the Harden/Kyrie/KD Nets), you still have to play the games. Otherwise, why not just run a simulation in 2k and pick a champion from that?
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Re: Bradley Beal?
« Reply #55 on: June 14, 2023, 04:30:21 PM »

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League execs wondering about the future of Bradley Beal

Bradley Beal re-signed with the Washington Wizards last offseason on a five-year, $251 million and could be traded this offseason as Michael Winger takes over the front office. “Last week, Michael Winger, the new president of the Washington Wizards, said he has been given clearance from ownership to do a complete rebuild,” said Brian Windhorst on Get Up. “That has left everybody in the league wondering what about the future of Bradley Beal. – via RealGM


JB for BB might become a reality!

I saw elsewhere that Beal is one of the very few players with a no-trade clause.  That essentially means he can pick not only what destination he goes to, but can have a huge say in the compensation, too.

In other words, if Beal says "I'm only going to Boston, and I want Brown there", then Washington either makes that trade or deals with an unhappy Beal.

Theoretically, we could do Brogdon + Pritchard + Gallo + Kornet + Champagnie to make salaries work.  Of course, we'd then have a gigantically expensive team without a lot of avenues to improve.  But, among rotation players, it's Brogdon being converted into Beal.

Timelord / Horford / Kabengele
Tatum / Williams / Muscala
Brown / Hauser
Beal / White
Smart / Davidson

We'd basically have vet minimums, two-ways, and the #35 pick to fill out the roster.

Would you do it? Also would need to include several first round picks.

No. I don't think adding Beal is the solution.  He is just another guard, albeit a very good one.  3 super max deals on same team just doesn't work.

Re: Bradley Beal?
« Reply #56 on: June 14, 2023, 04:31:27 PM »

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You know what? It'd be 2 years before it became a big financial strain if we extend Jaylen and go after Beal. Get Jayson on the phone and have him call up Brad Beal and tell him he needs to join up with up him and Jaylen. He has a NTC, he can control his own fate to some extent.

Go for it hard next year and if it doesn't pan out, work with Jaylen to reroute him to a team that can get us back some frontcourt help.
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« Reply #57 on: June 14, 2023, 04:33:50 PM »

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Miami makes the most sense to me for Beal.

Herro, D Robinson and a couple of 1sts.

Strong offer for a highly paid oft injured undersized 30yr old SG. Beal gets to join a title contender. He gets to play as a #2 next to Jimmy. He plays with Bam to make a Big 3. MIA gets the 2nd scorer they desperately need. Win-win.

Washington gets to rebuild. A young SG who replaces a good chunk of what Beal brings to the table. And a bunch of 1sts to aid their rebuilding effort.

If this happens, then Boston might as well let Jaylen walk. If they can't beat a Miami team without Beal, what makes anyone think we can if they add an elite scorer? In other words, why have 2 supermax players, if they can't win a title.

The combination of the J's leads to regular season success, but doesn't translate come playoff time. Why can't we win home playoff games? Why do mediocre playoff teams push the Celtics to games 6 or 7? I think the Damian Lillard comments recently spoke volumes. What do other players around the league think about the Celtics that we don't know about? I don't know why no one sees this, especially management and ownership. If they give Jaylen a supermax, the Celtics will not win a title until after another rebuild. BTW, Marcus has to go to.

We beat Miami last year.

Good on paper teams get assembled all the time (the Dwight/Kobe Lakers, the Harden/Kyrie/KD Nets), you still have to play the games. Otherwise, why not just run a simulation in 2k and pick a champion from that?

An inferior Miami team that again took Boston to game 7? Who also didn't have Tyler Hero the whole series. Butler had the chance to win the series with a 3 that just missed.

Re: Bradley Beal?
« Reply #58 on: June 14, 2023, 04:34:49 PM »

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Miami makes the most sense to me for Beal.

Herro, D Robinson and a couple of 1sts.

Strong offer for a highly paid oft injured undersized 30yr old SG. Beal gets to join a title contender. He gets to play as a #2 next to Jimmy. He plays with Bam to make a Big 3. MIA gets the 2nd scorer they desperately need. Win-win.

Washington gets to rebuild. A young SG who replaces a good chunk of what Beal brings to the table. And a bunch of 1sts to aid their rebuilding effort.

If this happens, then Boston might as well let Jaylen walk. If they can't beat a Miami team without Beal, what makes anyone think we can if they add an elite scorer? In other words, why have 2 supermax players, if they can't win a title.

The combination of the J's leads to regular season success, but doesn't translate come playoff time. Why can't we win home playoff games? Why do mediocre playoff teams push the Celtics to games 6 or 7? I think the Damian Lillard comments recently spoke volumes. What do other players around the league think about the Celtics that we don't know about? I don't know why no one sees this, especially management and ownership. If they give Jaylen a supermax, the Celtics will not win a title until after another rebuild. BTW, Marcus has to go to.

We beat Miami last year.

Good on paper teams get assembled all the time (the Dwight/Kobe Lakers, the Harden/Kyrie/KD Nets), you still have to play the games. Otherwise, why not just run a simulation in 2k and pick a champion from that?

An inferior Miami team that again took Boston to game 7? Who also didn't have Tyler Hero the whole series. Butler had the chance to win the series with a 3 that just missed.

Miami was the #1 seed a year ago.  They weren’t that inferior.

Re: Bradley Beal?
« Reply #59 on: June 14, 2023, 05:02:28 PM »

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The Boston Celtics are NOT interested in Bradley Beal, per @WindhorstESPN

Their main priority is to extend Jaylen Brown

Not that I think Windhorst has any kind of insider knowledge, but it makes sense. The new CBA makes having all three on super maxes unrealistic, and a trade of Brown for Beal doesn’t really make sense. There’s some potential options/three way trades where it could work, but hard to say we’re really better off with Beal over Brown.

Portland makes the most sense, though not sure they give up the third pick for him. Maybe something built around Simons?

Washington has the 8th pick, so maybe Beal/#8 for Simons/#3/a sign trade of Reddish or some other salary filler. There's a path to a Portland/Washington deal that can pair Lillard and Beal. Don't think it's going to happen, but it also wouldn't shock me.
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