Celtics (2-3) at 76ers (3-2) Round 2 Game #6 5/11/23

[jambr380]

anyone backing off the notion that joe should have benched tatum is drunk on the emotion of the “win.” if hauser or pp or grant replace jt during the game and hit just a few pedestrian buckets, the c’s win going away and they don’t need his last minute “heroics.”

this was bad coaching and if the sixers don’t completely melt down in epic doc fashion, the c’s lose handily. 

our future super max finally hit a few shots, after disappearing for most of the playoffs, including last year’s finals, and suddenly he’s the man? go sell crazy some place else.

i’m glad the c’s won and everyone can revel in the moment, but this isn’t sustainable, winning basketball.

Yes I’m sure Preston Pritchard or Grant Williams are more meaningfully impactful to winning basketball games than Jayson Tatum.

Players miss shots. It happens.

You are missing the point.

All three of those guys are shooters, though Joe has done everything he can to tear down their confidence.
All three play 10 minutes each, Tatum and Brown get some rest. those three surely hit a few shots between them, plus Grant and Peyton bring energy and effort. Not sure what Mazzulla's problem is with Grant.

A 7 man rotation feels extreme for me from a minutes played perspective, but those guys are nothing more than warm bodies. Our much-vaunted depth is, basically, 1-7. Grant Williams in a pinch is replacement level.

Before tipoff who is predicting Tatum goes 1-13? Who is honestly going to advocate for pulling him for journeymen? He’s not my favourite player or my favourite Celtic but you ride and die with your best players.

“warm bodies” is exactly what tatum has been for most of the playoffs, including the finals last year.

maybe you’ve selectively forgotten grant’s game 7 vs. the bucks. these guys can contribute. again, if pp/grant/hauser play a pedestrian game and score at their typical efficiency, the c’s don’t need 4Q heroics. if they stink up the joint, you put tatum back in in the fourth and see if the benching cleared his head.

philly played horribly all game and were begging to be put away early. tatum single-handedly kept them in the game.

Tatum had 7 rebounds, 6 assists, and 2 blocks in the 1st half. I get that he was atrocious from the field and could have done without his non-heroics down the stretch of that half, but I doubt Hauser is contributing to the team in the same ways Tatum was.

Funny enough, Tatum was actually legitimately bad in the 2nd half - no more assists, only a couple of rebounds - but he just absolutely tore it up down the stretch and that's all that matters. He also worked hard on defense all night.

[jpotter33]

From Liberty Ballers:

The Sixers scored 95 or more in 80 of their 82 games this year. Their lowest point total was 85. The Sixers just had one of their worst, if not their worst offensive outing of the season. If they had had merely their 6th worst, they would have won the game.

This should tell Joe all he needs to know about Timelord and the defensive focus. Their second lowest scoring game all year in a second round elimination game at home, when they had scored no less than 114 the rest of the series. Just amazing.

Doc even with some shade towards Joe before the game, saying he thought we would've went to the two big lineup last game and he was surprised that we didn't.

[Phantom255x]

Lol I just realized Sunday is Mother's Day

Hopefully the C's don't disappoint all the Green-Teamer moms on Sunday 

[Boston Garden Leprechaun]

I know I keep saying this but I can't imagine JT will play bad this much. At some point he'll be due for an all-around great game (including 1st half). Hopefully it's Sunday.

It's been said ad nauseam at this point, but it's literally as simple as running some sets early in the game to get Tatum some good looks. It was the obvious thing to do today and we didn't, but hopefully it's so painfully obvious after tonight that Tatum only needs to see one ball go through the net that even Joe can't screw that up on Sunday.

i think Hoford is due.

PP  HAUSER AND G WILL ARE DUE IF OUR MORON COACH WOUKD PLAY THEM

[SparzWizard]

Lol I just realized Sunday is Mother's Day

Hopefully the C's don't disappoint all the Green-Teamer moms on Sunday 

My birthday too, my heart can't take it anymo 😭

[Boston Garden Leprechaun]

YALL WANNA SEE LIBERTY CITY BALLER FANS ONLINE??

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[cman88]

anyone backing off the notion that joe should have benched tatum is drunk on the emotion of the “win.” if hauser or pp or grant replace jt during the game and hit just a few pedestrian buckets, the c’s win going away and they don’t need his last minute “heroics.”

this was bad coaching and if the sixers don’t completely melt down in epic doc fashion, the c’s lose handily. 

our future super max finally hit a few shots, after disappearing for most of the playoffs, including last year’s finals, and suddenly he’s the man? go sell crazy some place else.

i’m glad the c’s won and everyone can revel in the moment, but this isn’t sustainable, winning basketball.

Yes I’m sure Preston Pritchard or Grant Williams are more meaningfully impactful to winning basketball games than Jayson Tatum.

Players miss shots. It happens.

You are missing the point.

All three of those guys are shooters, though Joe has done everything he can to tear down their confidence.
All three play 10 minutes each, Tatum and Brown get some rest. those three surely hit a few shots between them, plus Grant and Peyton bring energy and effort. Not sure what Mazzulla's problem is with Grant.

A 7 man rotation feels extreme for me from a minutes played perspective, but those guys are nothing more than warm bodies. Our much-vaunted depth is, basically, 1-7. Grant Williams in a pinch is replacement level.

Before tipoff who is predicting Tatum goes 1-13? Who is honestly going to advocate for pulling him for journeymen? He’s not my favourite player or my favourite Celtic but you ride and die with your best players.

“warm bodies” is exactly what tatum has been for most of the playoffs, including the finals last year.

maybe you’ve selectively forgotten grant’s game 7 vs. the bucks. these guys can contribute. again, if pp/grant/hauser play a pedestrian game and score at their typical efficiency, the c’s don’t need 4Q heroics. if they stink up the joint, you put tatum back in in the fourth and see if the benching cleared his head.

philly played horribly all game and were begging to be put away early. tatum single-handedly kept them in the game.

I'm all for giving Grant/pp more minutes especially when the Celtics energy isn't there for spot minutes during the game.

But this idea of you should bench your superstar to kill his confidence even more for role player is just horrible. Name me a team who does that?

You also act like these bench guys like grant get open in a bubble. They get open off of the attention Tatum/brown command

[Phantom255x]

From Liberty Ballers:

The Sixers scored 95 or more in 80 of their 82 games this year. Their lowest point total was 85. The Sixers just had one of their worst, if not their worst offensive outing of the season. If they had had merely their 6th worst, they would have won the game.

This should tell Joe all he needs to know about Timelord and the defensive focus. Their second lowest scoring game all year in a second round elimination game at home, when they had scored no less than 114 the rest of the series. Just amazing.

Doc even with some shade towards Joe before the game, saying he thought we would've went to the two big lineup last game and he was surprised that we didn't.

FWIW, the Sixers in their 3 wins this series have scored 119, 116, and 115 points. In the losses? 87, 102, 86. Not saying they have to keep them under 90, but usually if they keep them around 95-100 they will win most of the time. Let Embiid get his, but neutralize the others. Even if you foul, make them feel it. We were awesome on defense tonight and didn't let them get easy buckets most of the night

[tenn_smoothie]

anyone backing off the notion that joe should have benched tatum is drunk on the emotion of the “win.” if hauser or pp or grant replace jt during the game and hit just a few pedestrian buckets, the c’s win going away and they don’t need his last minute “heroics.”

this was bad coaching and if the sixers don’t completely melt down in epic doc fashion, the c’s lose handily. 

our future super max finally hit a few shots, after disappearing for most of the playoffs, including last year’s finals, and suddenly he’s the man? go sell crazy some place else.

i’m glad the c’s won and everyone can revel in the moment, but this isn’t sustainable, winning basketball.

Yes I’m sure Preston Pritchard or Grant Williams are more meaningfully impactful to winning basketball games than Jayson Tatum.

Players miss shots. It happens.

You are missing the point.

All three of those guys are shooters, though Joe has done everything he can to tear down their confidence.
All three play 10 minutes each, Tatum and Brown get some rest. those three surely hit a few shots between them, plus Grant and Peyton bring energy and effort. Not sure what Mazzulla's problem is with Grant.

A 7 man rotation feels extreme for me from a minutes played perspective, but those guys are nothing more than warm bodies. Our much-vaunted depth is, basically, 1-7. Grant Williams in a pinch is replacement level.

Before tipoff who is predicting Tatum goes 1-13? Who is honestly going to advocate for pulling him for journeymen? He’s not my favourite player or my favourite Celtic but you ride and die with your best players.

“warm bodies” is exactly what tatum has been for most of the playoffs, including the finals last year.

maybe you’ve selectively forgotten grant’s game 7 vs. the bucks. these guys can contribute. again, if pp/grant/hauser play a pedestrian game and score at their typical efficiency, the c’s don’t need 4Q heroics. if they stink up the joint, you put tatum back in in the fourth and see if the benching cleared his head.

philly played horribly all game and were begging to be put away early. tatum single-handedly kept them in the game.

Good Lord, we are not suggesting benching Tatum for the entire second half in favor of bench players.
We are not suggesting playing these guys over Tatum the last 5 minutes of the game, though you keep one in if they are hot.
What I am saying is just rotate our bench in throughout the game, especially when one of the starters is ice cold.
And Mahk is right, those guys are not just warm bodies, they contribute. Joe has ruined them though.

[Boston Garden Leprechaun]

ONE MORE GAME MEN

ONE MORE

PLEASE GET IT DONE

CELTIC PRIDE

GAME 7

[cman88]

The difference tonight was Rob Williams and the 2 big lineup. His impact was felt in the paint, Celtics rebounded and defended well. You can win a poor shooting game when your defense keeps the other team from scoring.

And 2 fold, our bench scoring went up because white seemed to fit better there and provide more impact than Rob Williams has off the bench.

Idk why we went away from this lineup anyway. It was our kill lineup last year.

[Redz]

Such an odd team.  Capable of greatness. 

[Boston Garden Leprechaun]

anyone backing off the notion that joe should have benched tatum is drunk on the emotion of the “win.” if hauser or pp or grant replace jt during the game and hit just a few pedestrian buckets, the c’s win going away and they don’t need his last minute “heroics.”

this was bad coaching and if the sixers don’t completely melt down in epic doc fashion, the c’s lose handily. 

our future super max finally hit a few shots, after disappearing for most of the playoffs, including last year’s finals, and suddenly he’s the man? go sell crazy some place else.

i’m glad the c’s won and everyone can revel in the moment, but this isn’t sustainable, winning basketball.

Yes I’m sure Preston Pritchard or Grant Williams are more meaningfully impactful to winning basketball games than Jayson Tatum.

Players miss shots. It happens.

You are missing the point.

All three of those guys are shooters, though Joe has done everything he can to tear down their confidence.
All three play 10 minutes each, Tatum and Brown get some rest. those three surely hit a few shots between them, plus Grant and Peyton bring energy and effort. Not sure what Mazzulla's problem is with Grant.

A 7 man rotation feels extreme for me from a minutes played perspective, but those guys are nothing more than warm bodies. Our much-vaunted depth is, basically, 1-7. Grant Williams in a pinch is replacement level.

Before tipoff who is predicting Tatum goes 1-13? Who is honestly going to advocate for pulling him for journeymen? He’s not my favourite player or my favourite Celtic but you ride and die with your best players.

“warm bodies” is exactly what tatum has been for most of the playoffs, including the finals last year.

maybe you’ve selectively forgotten grant’s game 7 vs. the bucks. these guys can contribute. again, if pp/grant/hauser play a pedestrian game and score at their typical efficiency, the c’s don’t need 4Q heroics. if they stink up the joint, you put tatum back in in the fourth and see if the benching cleared his head.

philly played horribly all game and were begging to be put away early. tatum single-handedly kept them in the game.

Good Lord, we are not suggesting benching Tatum for the entire second half in favor of bench players.
We are not suggesting playing these guys over Tatum the last 5 minutes of the game, though you keep one in if they are hot.
What I am saying is just rotate our bench in throughout the game, especially when one of the starters is ice cold.
And Mahk is right, those guys are not just warm bodies, they contribute. Joe has ruined them though.

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[Boston Garden Leprechaun]

Such an odd team.  Capable of greatness.

CRAZY PILLS

BETTER ON ROAD THAN HOME

HOME FEELS LIKE A ROAD GAME

[Mahk E Mahk]

anyone backing off the notion that joe should have benched tatum is drunk on the emotion of the “win.” if hauser or pp or grant replace jt during the game and hit just a few pedestrian buckets, the c’s win going away and they don’t need his last minute “heroics.”

this was bad coaching and if the sixers don’t completely melt down in epic doc fashion, the c’s lose handily. 

our future super max finally hit a few shots, after disappearing for most of the playoffs, including last year’s finals, and suddenly he’s the man? go sell crazy some place else.

i’m glad the c’s won and everyone can revel in the moment, but this isn’t sustainable, winning basketball.

This is a bad time for an 'I told you so' moment. Perhaps not starting Tatum would have yielded different results, but by the time we knew Tatum was bad (end of the 1st), it was already official. It had happened.

Give the man his dues. He was a punching bag all night and came up big when we needed him the most. That is the definition of a superstar.

this is the exact opposite of an “i told you so moment,” as the C’s pulled it out. had the C’s lost and tatum continued his putrid play, then it’s an “i told you moment.”

i get the euphoria and i’m thrilled the C’s won to stay alive but joe has to be willing to hold tatum accountable for not showing up consistently. it’s not as if tatum had an unusually poor shooting night and we’re calling for him to be benched for one bad night. the dude has been worse than a no-show; he’s hurting the team with his epic run of disappearing acts.

if tatum knew there were consequences for consistent poor play, we might not see it as much. that’s called accountability and coaching. even “superstars” need to be held accountable and coached.