Tonite's loss to a Denver team, which was also struggling from the 3-point line, is exactly the issue that CS critics of Joe are trying to point out to his apologists - it's great when the team is cruising thru stretches of regular season success (and not totally insignificant). But I am viewing this team thru the perspective of how what we are seeing now is going to succeed or not succeed in the playoffs, which is a completely different animal. There is new reason for hope this season due to personnel additions/subtractions which have produced obvious improvements in performance. But there are still repetitive nagging problems that can - and do - lead to losses in the more significant games.
You might point out some quality wins this year, which I gladly applaud. Problem is most of our quality wins are a result of red-hot shooting which cannot be sustained (by any team) throughout a long playoff season, which has the added dimension of opposing coaches having multiple games and additional time to adjust defensive schemes to attack our offensive strengths.
Then what are we left with ? Joe and his awful 3-point iso offense and another playoff exit for our very talented, very one-dimensional team.
Been trying to say that, not as well as you did here.
I've said this a couple times, but there were a couple instances al gave up a layup and passed for a 3 that we missed. If he scores instead we probably win. The mentality of this team is broken. As soon as they get pressure on defense at the 3, they just lose composure. Why is Joe not having guys cut when that happens?
I say this in all seriousness, I don't think he knows any other offensive scheme besides chucking 3's.
This team has way too much talent to be reliant on it as much as they are. We're over the cap and if they don't win it all its a massive fail. Imo it would be one of the biggest chokes in all of sports.
Yes, there is a group of us here that have all been trying to say this.
But we are dismissed as negative fans who cannot be pleased.
We can be pleased quite easily, by seeing this team play the right way led by a knowledgeable coach who adapts and plays to his team's strengths.
I can't quite fathom that a coach who has reached this level of his profession simply not having the requisite basketball knowledge to identify and then make adjustments to obvious failing schemes. What is going thru the guy's head during games like last nite ? The worst part to me is watching another prime season of the league's most storied franchise possibly end with the team going home empty-handed yet again.
But I think everyone sees your point. It’s just that it would be a better point if the team wasn’t 32-10 and 20-1 at home. Of course all of us are concerned about losing another prime Jays season. I certainly am. But they are playing regular season ball right now because that’s what this is. And they are playing better regular season ball than anyone else in the league. Of course there are concerns - I haven’t heard anyone here say that the 3-point focus feels good. But it’s working pretty well in terms of the most important regular season statistic. Joe seems better to me overall than last year and he’s growing. Maybe fast enough, maybe not. Team has bounced back all season (a positive sign that I couldn’t say was true last regular season), we’ll see how they do in the next two weeks.
There we go again with the regular season success. As I said, it's great that they have the best record and have shown improvement from last season. A group as talented as this year's Celtics can win a lot of games in spite of an incompetent coach.
But it is the same nagging problems - late game execution, one-dimensional offense dependent on hot shooting to beat the better teams, timeout and game management issues, bad lineup combos at important segments of games, failure to make better use of Porzingis, on and on are coaching deficiencies that will cost us in the playoffs where these specific problems are exposed and exploited to a much higher degree than during the regular season. The Denver game was more characteristic of an important playoff game and all the above issues contributed to the loss.
The concern here is the playoffs, the playoffs, the playoffs !!!!