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Re: 2023 Official NBA Trade Deadline/Buyout Thread
« Reply #330 on: February 10, 2023, 11:15:40 AM »

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So it seems that the consensus buyout hopes are:

Will Barton
Terence Ross
Danny Green

My initial reaction would be Barton but I looked a little deeper.  He is small at 6'-5".  32 years old.  Listed as a SF but I think there are defensive issues.  His NetR this season is really bad and in particular his DefR is poor.  Both EFG% and TS% are pretty low this season (everything is down relative to career averages for Barton).  His DefR on Denver was not great, but not as bad as this season in WAS.

Danny Green is 6'-6" and 35 years old.  He has declined the last few seasons pretty dramatically (and that was before the latest injury).  Not sure what he has left and in particular, if he can still defend the SF position.

Terrence Ross is 6'-7", 32 years old, and actually has decent stats this season in ORL.  I admit that in the past, I have been unimpressed to put is mildly.  He has a decent NetR and DefR this season on ORL and his EFG% and TS% are both better than Barton (at least this season).

I am not sure if any of these options would beat out Hauser, maybe.  Certainly an improvement on Jackson.

Tony Snell (for reference) is 6'-6", 31, but it is not clear why he fell off the map this season.  His career stats are comparable to Terrence Ross.  Actually career 39% from 3 (Ross and Barton are 36.2% and 35.5% respectively).  I don't recall if there was an injury or something.

After all this, I come to the conclusion that we should not rule out Ross.  Barton appears really weak on defense and lacks size.  Ross is actually a slightly better career 3pt shooter, and both are at 38% this season.  As a complement to Hauser, Ross might be the better option.  And Snell might actually trump them all.

I’m hoping for Alec Burks. He’s 6’6”/214lbs, is averaging 13pts off the bench, while shooting 42% from 3pt. He’s 31 years old and  has a $10M team option for next year. Can’t see Detroit picking that up. Barton would be fine, would be less interested in Ross and not at all interested in Green due to his age and constantly being injured.

https://twitter.com/stoolgreenie/status/1624065215531737089?s=46&t=IONyrDdLxDjWBSNxYrOY7Q

Apparently we’ve already had advance contact with several of these potential buyout candidates, including Barton, Ross, Green, and Holiday.

I will say that I’m intrigued by Snell. He’s a true 3 and D guy - probably the best of that bunch given Danny’s age. I guess it depends on what we’re wanting for that spot - a 3 and D type (Snell, Green) or a more volume/microwave scorer type (Barton, Ross).
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Re: 2023 Official NBA Trade Deadline/Buyout Thread
« Reply #331 on: February 10, 2023, 11:17:25 AM »

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So it seems that the consensus buyout hopes are:

Will Barton
Terence Ross
Danny Green

My initial reaction would be Barton but I looked a little deeper.  He is small at 6'-5".  32 years old.  Listed as a SF but I think there are defensive issues.  His NetR this season is really bad and in particular his DefR is poor.  Both EFG% and TS% are pretty low this season (everything is down relative to career averages for Barton).  His DefR on Denver was not great, but not as bad as this season in WAS.

Danny Green is 6'-6" and 35 years old.  He has declined the last few seasons pretty dramatically (and that was before the latest injury).  Not sure what he has left and in particular, if he can still defend the SF position.

Terrence Ross is 6'-7", 32 years old, and actually has decent stats this season in ORL.  I admit that in the past, I have been unimpressed to put is mildly.  He has a decent NetR and DefR this season on ORL and his EFG% and TS% are both better than Barton (at least this season).

I am not sure if any of these options would beat out Hauser, maybe.  Certainly an improvement on Jackson.

Tony Snell (for reference) is 6'-6", 31, but it is not clear why he fell off the map this season.  His career stats are comparable to Terrence Ross.  Actually career 39% from 3 (Ross and Barton are 36.2% and 35.5% respectively).  I don't recall if there was an injury or something.

After all this, I come to the conclusion that we should not rule out Ross.  Barton appears really weak on defense and lacks size.  Ross is actually a slightly better career 3pt shooter, and both are at 38% this season.  As a complement to Hauser, Ross might be the better option.  And Snell might actually trump them all.

I’m hoping for Alec Burks. He’s 6’6”/214lbs, is averaging 13pts off the bench, while shooting 42% from 3pt. He’s 31 years old and  has a $10M team option for next year. Can’t see Detroit picking that up. Barton would be fine, would be less interested in Ross and not at all interested in Green due to his age and constantly being injured.

I am not sure how likely it is that Alec Burks becomes available.  If he does though, count me in.

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However, Detroit decided to hold onto Bojan Bogdanovic and Alec Burks, Omari Sankofa II of the Detroit Free Press tweets. Bogdanovic, in particular, drew a lot of interest around the league but the team’s front office repeatedly made it clear in recent weeks it wanted to keep Bogdanovic and Burks to blend in with an otherwise young team next season.

Re: 2023 Official NBA Trade Deadline/Buyout Thread
« Reply #332 on: February 10, 2023, 11:19:22 AM »

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So it seems that the consensus buyout hopes are:

Will Barton
Terence Ross
Danny Green

My initial reaction would be Barton but I looked a little deeper.  He is small at 6'-5".  32 years old.  Listed as a SF but I think there are defensive issues.  His NetR this season is really bad and in particular his DefR is poor.  Both EFG% and TS% are pretty low this season (everything is down relative to career averages for Barton).  His DefR on Denver was not great, but not as bad as this season in WAS.

Danny Green is 6'-6" and 35 years old.  He has declined the last few seasons pretty dramatically (and that was before the latest injury).  Not sure what he has left and in particular, if he can still defend the SF position.

Terrence Ross is 6'-7", 32 years old, and actually has decent stats this season in ORL.  I admit that in the past, I have been unimpressed to put is mildly.  He has a decent NetR and DefR this season on ORL and his EFG% and TS% are both better than Barton (at least this season).

I am not sure if any of these options would beat out Hauser, maybe.  Certainly an improvement on Jackson.

Tony Snell (for reference) is 6'-6", 31, but it is not clear why he fell off the map this season.  His career stats are comparable to Terrence Ross.  Actually career 39% from 3 (Ross and Barton are 36.2% and 35.5% respectively).  I don't recall if there was an injury or something.

After all this, I come to the conclusion that we should not rule out Ross.  Barton appears really weak on defense and lacks size.  Ross is actually a slightly better career 3pt shooter, and both are at 38% this season.  As a complement to Hauser, Ross might be the better option.  And Snell might actually trump them all.

I’m hoping for Alec Burks. He’s 6’6”/214lbs, is averaging 13pts off the bench, while shooting 42% from 3pt. He’s 31 years old and  has a $10M team option for next year. Can’t see Detroit picking that up. Barton would be fine, would be less interested in Ross and not at all interested in Green due to his age and constantly being injured.

https://twitter.com/stoolgreenie/status/1624065215531737089?s=46&t=IONyrDdLxDjWBSNxYrOY7Q

Apparently we’ve already had advance contact with several of these potential buyout candidates, including Barton, Ross, Green, and Holiday.

I will say that I’m intrigued by Snell. He’s a true 3 and D guy - probably the best of that bunch given Danny’s age. I guess it depends on what we’re wanting for that spot - a 3 and D type (Snell, Green) or a more volume/microwave scorer type (Barton, Ross).

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Re: 2023 Official NBA Trade Deadline/Buyout Thread
« Reply #333 on: February 10, 2023, 11:21:22 AM »

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So it seems that the consensus buyout hopes are:

Will Barton
Terence Ross
Danny Green

My initial reaction would be Barton but I looked a little deeper.  He is small at 6'-5".  32 years old.  Listed as a SF but I think there are defensive issues.  His NetR this season is really bad and in particular his DefR is poor.  Both EFG% and TS% are pretty low this season (everything is down relative to career averages for Barton).  His DefR on Denver was not great, but not as bad as this season in WAS.

Danny Green is 6'-6" and 35 years old.  He has declined the last few seasons pretty dramatically (and that was before the latest injury).  Not sure what he has left and in particular, if he can still defend the SF position.

Terrence Ross is 6'-7", 32 years old, and actually has decent stats this season in ORL.  I admit that in the past, I have been unimpressed to put is mildly.  He has a decent NetR and DefR this season on ORL and his EFG% and TS% are both better than Barton (at least this season).

I am not sure if any of these options would beat out Hauser, maybe.  Certainly an improvement on Jackson.

Tony Snell (for reference) is 6'-6", 31, but it is not clear why he fell off the map this season.  His career stats are comparable to Terrence Ross.  Actually career 39% from 3 (Ross and Barton are 36.2% and 35.5% respectively).  I don't recall if there was an injury or something.

After all this, I come to the conclusion that we should not rule out Ross.  Barton appears really weak on defense and lacks size.  Ross is actually a slightly better career 3pt shooter, and both are at 38% this season.  As a complement to Hauser, Ross might be the better option.  And Snell might actually trump them all.

I’m hoping for Alec Burks. He’s 6’6”/214lbs, is averaging 13pts off the bench, while shooting 42% from 3pt. He’s 31 years old and  has a $10M team option for next year. Can’t see Detroit picking that up. Barton would be fine, would be less interested in Ross and not at all interested in Green due to his age and constantly being injured.

https://twitter.com/stoolgreenie/status/1624065215531737089?s=46&t=IONyrDdLxDjWBSNxYrOY7Q

Apparently we’ve already had advance contact with several of these potential buyout candidates, including Barton, Ross, Green, and Holiday.

I will say that I’m intrigued by Snell. He’s a true 3 and D guy - probably the best of that bunch given Danny’s age. I guess it depends on what we’re wanting for that spot - a 3 and D type (Snell, Green) or a more volume/microwave scorer type (Barton, Ross).

I probably should have included Justin Holiday in my summary.  He is 6'-6" as you say, 33 years old, career not all that different than Ross or Snell but really wasn't used much by ATL this season (only 28 games).  Career 36.4% from 3. 

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« Reply #334 on: February 10, 2023, 11:34:34 AM »

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So it seems that the consensus buyout hopes are:

Will Barton
Terence Ross
Danny Green

My initial reaction would be Barton but I looked a little deeper.  He is small at 6'-5".  32 years old.  Listed as a SF but I think there are defensive issues.  His NetR this season is really bad and in particular his DefR is poor.  Both EFG% and TS% are pretty low this season (everything is down relative to career averages for Barton).  His DefR on Denver was not great, but not as bad as this season in WAS.

Danny Green is 6'-6" and 35 years old.  He has declined the last few seasons pretty dramatically (and that was before the latest injury).  Not sure what he has left and in particular, if he can still defend the SF position.

Terrence Ross is 6'-7", 32 years old, and actually has decent stats this season in ORL.  I admit that in the past, I have been unimpressed to put is mildly.  He has a decent NetR and DefR this season on ORL and his EFG% and TS% are both better than Barton (at least this season).

I am not sure if any of these options would beat out Hauser, maybe.  Certainly an improvement on Jackson.

Tony Snell (for reference) is 6'-6", 31, but it is not clear why he fell off the map this season.  His career stats are comparable to Terrence Ross.  Actually career 39% from 3 (Ross and Barton are 36.2% and 35.5% respectively).  I don't recall if there was an injury or something.

After all this, I come to the conclusion that we should not rule out Ross.  Barton appears really weak on defense and lacks size.  Ross is actually a slightly better career 3pt shooter, and both are at 38% this season.  As a complement to Hauser, Ross might be the better option.  And Snell might actually trump them all.

I’m hoping for Alec Burks. He’s 6’6”/214lbs, is averaging 13pts off the bench, while shooting 42% from 3pt. He’s 31 years old and  has a $10M team option for next year. Can’t see Detroit picking that up. Barton would be fine, would be less interested in Ross and not at all interested in Green due to his age and constantly being injured.

https://twitter.com/stoolgreenie/status/1624065215531737089?s=46&t=IONyrDdLxDjWBSNxYrOY7Q

Apparently we’ve already had advance contact with several of these potential buyout candidates, including Barton, Ross, Green, and Holiday.

I will say that I’m intrigued by Snell. He’s a true 3 and D guy - probably the best of that bunch given Danny’s age. I guess it depends on what we’re wanting for that spot - a 3 and D type (Snell, Green) or a more volume/microwave scorer type (Barton, Ross).

Is that tweet citing "Brett", whose qualifications are "Boston sports fan and Marvel/Star Wars enthusiast"?

And Brett is citing a Keith Smith article.


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Re: 2023 Official NBA Trade Deadline/Buyout Thread
« Reply #335 on: February 10, 2023, 11:43:18 AM »

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Barton's main problem isn't height, it is his lack of heft, lack of muscle. He gets pushed around so easily out there. That is why he has always been a dodgy defender.

And that is why he was unable to be the wing player Denver sorely needed despite having good skills and why they moved on from him. They have been much better with physical defenders like KCP and Bruce Brown.

Re: 2023 Official NBA Trade Deadline/Buyout Thread
« Reply #336 on: February 10, 2023, 11:47:35 AM »

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So it seems that the consensus buyout hopes are:

Will Barton
Terence Ross
Danny Green

My initial reaction would be Barton but I looked a little deeper.  He is small at 6'-5".  32 years old.  Listed as a SF but I think there are defensive issues.  His NetR this season is really bad and in particular his DefR is poor.  Both EFG% and TS% are pretty low this season (everything is down relative to career averages for Barton).  His DefR on Denver was not great, but not as bad as this season in WAS.

Danny Green is 6'-6" and 35 years old.  He has declined the last few seasons pretty dramatically (and that was before the latest injury).  Not sure what he has left and in particular, if he can still defend the SF position.

Terrence Ross is 6'-7", 32 years old, and actually has decent stats this season in ORL.  I admit that in the past, I have been unimpressed to put is mildly.  He has a decent NetR and DefR this season on ORL and his EFG% and TS% are both better than Barton (at least this season).

I am not sure if any of these options would beat out Hauser, maybe.  Certainly an improvement on Jackson.

Tony Snell (for reference) is 6'-6", 31, but it is not clear why he fell off the map this season.  His career stats are comparable to Terrence Ross.  Actually career 39% from 3 (Ross and Barton are 36.2% and 35.5% respectively).  I don't recall if there was an injury or something.

After all this, I come to the conclusion that we should not rule out Ross.  Barton appears really weak on defense and lacks size.  Ross is actually a slightly better career 3pt shooter, and both are at 38% this season.  As a complement to Hauser, Ross might be the better option.  And Snell might actually trump them all.

I’m hoping for Alec Burks. He’s 6’6”/214lbs, is averaging 13pts off the bench, while shooting 42% from 3pt. He’s 31 years old and  has a $10M team option for next year. Can’t see Detroit picking that up. Barton would be fine, would be less interested in Ross and not at all interested in Green due to his age and constantly being injured.

I am not sure how likely it is that Alec Burks becomes available.  If he does though, count me in.

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However, Detroit decided to hold onto Bojan Bogdanovic and Alec Burks, Omari Sankofa II of the Detroit Free Press tweets. Bogdanovic, in particular, drew a lot of interest around the league but the team’s front office repeatedly made it clear in recent weeks it wanted to keep Bogdanovic and Burks to blend in with an otherwise young team next season.

Bogdanovic signed an extension and is a 20ppg scorer. He’s a starter and has value around the league, so it makes sense for them to hold on to him. Burks on the other hand is a bench player, over 30 and I just can’t see them paying him $10M next year when they are in a full rebuild. But then again, we are talking about the Pistons here…  :laugh:
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Re: 2023 Official NBA Trade Deadline/Buyout Thread
« Reply #337 on: February 10, 2023, 11:51:28 AM »

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So it seems that the consensus buyout hopes are:

Will Barton
Terence Ross
Danny Green

My initial reaction would be Barton but I looked a little deeper.  He is small at 6'-5".  32 years old.  Listed as a SF but I think there are defensive issues.  His NetR this season is really bad and in particular his DefR is poor.  Both EFG% and TS% are pretty low this season (everything is down relative to career averages for Barton).  His DefR on Denver was not great, but not as bad as this season in WAS.

Danny Green is 6'-6" and 35 years old.  He has declined the last few seasons pretty dramatically (and that was before the latest injury).  Not sure what he has left and in particular, if he can still defend the SF position.

Terrence Ross is 6'-7", 32 years old, and actually has decent stats this season in ORL.  I admit that in the past, I have been unimpressed to put is mildly.  He has a decent NetR and DefR this season on ORL and his EFG% and TS% are both better than Barton (at least this season).

I am not sure if any of these options would beat out Hauser, maybe.  Certainly an improvement on Jackson.

Tony Snell (for reference) is 6'-6", 31, but it is not clear why he fell off the map this season.  His career stats are comparable to Terrence Ross.  Actually career 39% from 3 (Ross and Barton are 36.2% and 35.5% respectively).  I don't recall if there was an injury or something.

After all this, I come to the conclusion that we should not rule out Ross.  Barton appears really weak on defense and lacks size.  Ross is actually a slightly better career 3pt shooter, and both are at 38% this season.  As a complement to Hauser, Ross might be the better option.  And Snell might actually trump them all.

I’m hoping for Alec Burks. He’s 6’6”/214lbs, is averaging 13pts off the bench, while shooting 42% from 3pt. He’s 31 years old and  has a $10M team option for next year. Can’t see Detroit picking that up. Barton would be fine, would be less interested in Ross and not at all interested in Green due to his age and constantly being injured.

I am not sure how likely it is that Alec Burks becomes available.  If he does though, count me in.

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However, Detroit decided to hold onto Bojan Bogdanovic and Alec Burks, Omari Sankofa II of the Detroit Free Press tweets. Bogdanovic, in particular, drew a lot of interest around the league but the team’s front office repeatedly made it clear in recent weeks it wanted to keep Bogdanovic and Burks to blend in with an otherwise young team next season.

Bogdanovic signed an extension and is a 20ppg scorer. He’s a starter and has value around the league, so it makes sense for them to hold on to him. Burks on the other hand is a bench player, over 30 and I just can’t see them paying him $10M next year when they are in a full rebuild. But then again, we are talking about the Pistons here…  :laugh:

I would have traded them both. I don't understand keeping Bogdanovic. He is an empty stats player. He puts up 20ppg but he gives up just as much on the other end of the floor. You are lucky to break even when he is out there.

Other teams are lucky Detroit held onto Bogdanovic. He wasn't worth giving up assets for.

Re: 2023 Official NBA Trade Deadline/Buyout Thread
« Reply #338 on: February 10, 2023, 11:51:46 AM »

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So it seems that the consensus buyout hopes are:

Will Barton
Terence Ross
Danny Green

My initial reaction would be Barton but I looked a little deeper.  He is small at 6'-5".  32 years old.  Listed as a SF but I think there are defensive issues.  His NetR this season is really bad and in particular his DefR is poor.  Both EFG% and TS% are pretty low this season (everything is down relative to career averages for Barton).  His DefR on Denver was not great, but not as bad as this season in WAS.

Danny Green is 6'-6" and 35 years old.  He has declined the last few seasons pretty dramatically (and that was before the latest injury).  Not sure what he has left and in particular, if he can still defend the SF position.

Terrence Ross is 6'-7", 32 years old, and actually has decent stats this season in ORL.  I admit that in the past, I have been unimpressed to put is mildly.  He has a decent NetR and DefR this season on ORL and his EFG% and TS% are both better than Barton (at least this season).

I am not sure if any of these options would beat out Hauser, maybe.  Certainly an improvement on Jackson.

Tony Snell (for reference) is 6'-6", 31, but it is not clear why he fell off the map this season.  His career stats are comparable to Terrence Ross.  Actually career 39% from 3 (Ross and Barton are 36.2% and 35.5% respectively).  I don't recall if there was an injury or something.

After all this, I come to the conclusion that we should not rule out Ross.  Barton appears really weak on defense and lacks size.  Ross is actually a slightly better career 3pt shooter, and both are at 38% this season.  As a complement to Hauser, Ross might be the better option.  And Snell might actually trump them all.

I’m hoping for Alec Burks. He’s 6’6”/214lbs, is averaging 13pts off the bench, while shooting 42% from 3pt. He’s 31 years old and  has a $10M team option for next year. Can’t see Detroit picking that up. Barton would be fine, would be less interested in Ross and not at all interested in Green due to his age and constantly being injured.

I am not sure how likely it is that Alec Burks becomes available.  If he does though, count me in.

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However, Detroit decided to hold onto Bojan Bogdanovic and Alec Burks, Omari Sankofa II of the Detroit Free Press tweets. Bogdanovic, in particular, drew a lot of interest around the league but the team’s front office repeatedly made it clear in recent weeks it wanted to keep Bogdanovic and Burks to blend in with an otherwise young team next season.

Bogdanovic signed an extension and is a 20ppg scorer. He’s a starter and has value around the league, so it makes sense for them to hold on to him. Burks on the other hand is a bench player, over 30 and I just can’t see them paying him $10M next year when they are in a full rebuild.

They aren’t in full rebuild.  They’re tanking this year because of a) Wemby, and b) Cade Cunningham is out for the season.  They have an aspiration to make the playoffs next year, and would like some vets in the rotation.  Bogs and Burks both fill that need.  They were available for the right price, of course, but Burks will be a Piston next year or will fetch them something in the off-season.  He’s not being bought out.

Re: 2023 Official NBA Trade Deadline/Buyout Thread
« Reply #339 on: February 10, 2023, 11:53:27 AM »

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I don't understand Detroit going after Wiseman. They have Jalen Duren who is their center of the future and is currently doing well for them. They have Isaiah Stewart who is also doing well for them. Another body in Nerlens Noel. Another big man in Marvin Bagley.

Why Wiseman? Where are his minutes coming from? How are they going to develop him?

It doesn't look a good situation for Wiseman. Bad team. No clear role. Lack of available minutes. Don't like it.

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« Reply #340 on: February 10, 2023, 11:55:16 AM »

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« Reply #341 on: February 10, 2023, 11:56:37 AM »

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I don't understand Detroit going after Wiseman. They have Jalen Duren who is their center of the future and is currently doing well for them. They have Isaiah Stewart who is also doing well for them. Another body in Nerlens Noel. Another big man in Marvin Bagley.

Why Wiseman? Where are his minutes coming from? How are they going to develop him?

It doesn't look a good situation for Wiseman. Bad team. No clear role. Lack of available minutes. Don't like it.

It's all a crapshoot. None of those players are proven commodities or winners yet. You are hoping to develop one to go with Cade and Ivey.

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« Reply #342 on: February 10, 2023, 11:56:55 AM »

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I'd be happy with any of Barton, Danny Green and Ross. I think Danny Green is the guy I'd want. I didn't realize he would be a possibility but he got traded, and it's very likely he gets bought out and I think he does have that championship experience + ability to really help the bench.

We're not asking him to be 25-year old Danny Green in a starting unit, but even around 10-15 minutes a night would be useful. He is a good perimeter shooter which would only enhance us further there, and can play some solid defense

The problem with Danny Green is that he returned from his ACL just last week, and it’s questionable if we can allocate the minutes to him that he needs to get back in game shape.  Don’t get me wrong, he’d be an upgrade over Justin Jackson, but I don’t know that we could expect him to be a positive contributor if pressed into service, instead of a less negative one than Jackson.

He's a beloved teammate. If I had to, I would much rather play out-of-shape Danny green coming off a torn ACL than Justin Jackson.

Both players are break-glass-in-case-of-emergency anyway.

Of course.  I'm just saying there are a couple other wings on the buyout market I'd take above Danny Green, most notably Will Barton.  The Wizards bloggers think he was totally misused in DC, and also note he was fighting a lingering hamstring injury (he'd miss 2-3 games, play 2-3 games, and miss 2-3 more).  If he can put that behind him and come out fresh after the All-Star break, he has the highest ceiling of any of the buyout wings.

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« Reply #343 on: February 10, 2023, 12:03:34 PM »

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So it seems that the consensus buyout hopes are:

Will Barton
Terence Ross
Danny Green

My initial reaction would be Barton but I looked a little deeper.  He is small at 6'-5".  32 years old.  Listed as a SF but I think there are defensive issues.  His NetR this season is really bad and in particular his DefR is poor.  Both EFG% and TS% are pretty low this season (everything is down relative to career averages for Barton).  His DefR on Denver was not great, but not as bad as this season in WAS.

Danny Green is 6'-6" and 35 years old.  He has declined the last few seasons pretty dramatically (and that was before the latest injury).  Not sure what he has left and in particular, if he can still defend the SF position.

Terrence Ross is 6'-7", 32 years old, and actually has decent stats this season in ORL.  I admit that in the past, I have been unimpressed to put is mildly.  He has a decent NetR and DefR this season on ORL and his EFG% and TS% are both better than Barton (at least this season).

I am not sure if any of these options would beat out Hauser, maybe.  Certainly an improvement on Jackson.

Tony Snell (for reference) is 6'-6", 31, but it is not clear why he fell off the map this season.  His career stats are comparable to Terrence Ross.  Actually career 39% from 3 (Ross and Barton are 36.2% and 35.5% respectively).  I don't recall if there was an injury or something.

After all this, I come to the conclusion that we should not rule out Ross.  Barton appears really weak on defense and lacks size.  Ross is actually a slightly better career 3pt shooter, and both are at 38% this season.  As a complement to Hauser, Ross might be the better option.  And Snell might actually trump them all.

I’m hoping for Alec Burks. He’s 6’6”/214lbs, is averaging 13pts off the bench, while shooting 42% from 3pt. He’s 31 years old and  has a $10M team option for next year. Can’t see Detroit picking that up. Barton would be fine, would be less interested in Ross and not at all interested in Green due to his age and constantly being injured.

I am not sure how likely it is that Alec Burks becomes available.  If he does though, count me in.

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However, Detroit decided to hold onto Bojan Bogdanovic and Alec Burks, Omari Sankofa II of the Detroit Free Press tweets. Bogdanovic, in particular, drew a lot of interest around the league but the team’s front office repeatedly made it clear in recent weeks it wanted to keep Bogdanovic and Burks to blend in with an otherwise young team next season.

Bogdanovic signed an extension and is a 20ppg scorer. He’s a starter and has value around the league, so it makes sense for them to hold on to him. Burks on the other hand is a bench player, over 30 and I just can’t see them paying him $10M next year when they are in a full rebuild.

They aren’t in full rebuild.  They’re tanking this year because of a) Wemby, and b) Cade Cunningham is out for the season.  They have an aspiration to make the playoffs next year, and would like some vets in the rotation.  Bogs and Burks both fill that need.  They were available for the right price, of course, but Burks will be a Piston next year or will fetch them something in the off-season.  He’s not being bought out.

They have 14 wins on the season, second worst record in the league. Getting Cade Cunningham back who has not been very impressive thus far and potentially adding Webenyama to that squad isn’t going to make them a playoff team next year. If teams were interested in Burks at $10M/annually, I don’t think he’d be on the Pistons team right now.
« Last Edit: February 10, 2023, 12:18:26 PM by Goldstar88 »
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Reports saying D'Angelo Russell was unhappy with Gobert, was criticizing him openly and complaining about the new look T'Wolves ... causing disharmony within the Wolves organization.

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