Celtics Trade Deadline

[Moranis]

I'll propose a deal:

BOS trades:  Gallinari, Pritchard, Jackson, better of HOU / POR #2
ORL trades:  Bamba

It is basically salary neutral for this year.

I like!  The Houston pick could be #32 which is essentially a 1st.

We don't have a first this year, so we can't give up a first in the 2024 draft, therefore, Brad is going to have to get creative.  I like this, definitely provides big depth but we'll ahve to make sure to scour the buyouts for wing depth.  I think with JB and JT nursing injuries, that's going to get important down the road deep into the playoffs.

The Houston pick only comes to us at 33 or worse, otherwise it’s Dallas or Miami.  But the Portland pick is aiming to be late 30s on its own.

I think PP has late first round (high level role/bench player on any team without the Cs depth at guard).  I think Bamba is a less valuable asset than Hachimura so the idea of trading a 1st plus a high 2nd seems to be an over pay. Gallinari plus Jackson worked for salary purposes in the trade machine I tried, but I have no idea if their algorithm is correct.

frankly given the contract, Gallinari might be more valuable than Bamba if he can come back this year.  Given the health, I'd probably do Bamba for Gallinari and Jackson, but no draft picks or other players.  I also might do Bamba, Hampton for Gallinari, Pritchard, and Jackson, but I think Pritchard makes more sense as a shooter off the bench than whatever Hampton's role might be.

What's wrong with Bamba's contract?  $10 million for a low-end starting-caliber center / good backup seems fair, and his deal is non-guaranteed next season.  And let's be real:  Gallo isn't coming back this year, and if he does, he's likely going to be slow, rusty and timid.

A floor-spacing defensive center is exactly what this team needs.  While I'd love to keep Pritchard -- both because he's solid depth and because he's got a tradeable contract next year -- having somebody who can spell both Timelord and Horford is important.

There is nothing wrong with Bamba's contract other than it is 3.5 million more than Gallinari's this year.  So he costs more.  Gallinari is better than Bamba at almost everything.  I get he is hurt, which is why I'd make the move, but no way I'd add Pritchard to it.  Way too much to give up for a guy that might not even play ahead of Kornet.

Bamba is significantly better than both Gallo (who literally adds zero) and Kornet.  And, I'd always trade a 4th PG for a backup center.

No he isn't.  He blocks shots better and rebounds better, but does nothing else as well as Gallo who is also more versatile in that he can play both PF and C, while Bamba can not.  Gallo is a much better fit with Boston than Bamba is, if he can get back to healthy.  He isn't now, so I'd do the swap just for the certainty, but not with any value added.

Gallo ads zero.  His "fit" is towel waver and rehabber.   There is essentially a 0% chance he comes back this year.  He's not Adrian Peterson.  34 year olds don't come back from ACL tears in 9 months.

Last time he tore his ACL -- in April 2013 -- he missed the remainder of that season, as well as the entire next season.  It took him 19 months to play again.  Now we're expecting him back in nine?  Despite being nine years older?

As I said, I'd make the trade, just not with Pritchard, a 1st, etc.  Bamba isn't any good.  There is a reason he is barely playing for the Magic.    In the last 12 games he has been a healthy scratch 5 times and is down under 10 mpg in the other 7 and he was a healthy scratch 14 games ago.  Bamba isn't good. Pritchard is significantly better than he is, it isn't close.  I'm not sure he'd play ahead of Kornet, who you all know I think blows. And Bamba is a pure center.  He has never played or guarded PF's in his life.  He'd be the 3rd or 4th center on this team.  If the trade is just injured Gallo and Jackson, then it is fine, anything more than that and it is a terrible trade.

Lol.  "It isn't close" doesn't make a false statement true.

Bamba leads in points per game, points per possession, FG%, eFG%, 2PT%, 3PT%, TS%, FT%, 3PM, FTA, rebounds, and blocks.  They have the same number of assists and steals, and Bamba has fewer turnovers.  Bamba has the better ORtg, DRtg, PER, WS, WS/48, BPM, OPM, DPM, and has a lower usage rate.  Pritchard is older, and is playing less.

Pritchard fouls less.  That is literally the only thing he has been better at.

EDIT:  I forgot VORP.  Bamba leads there, too.

Not on their career or even just last year.  Pritchard because of role doesn't get consistent time this year, but we've seen what he is with more consistent time.  Pritchard is better and a better fit for this team than a 3rd or 4th string center that isn't elite at anything.  Bamba doesn't have elite shot blocking or rebounding, that is the type of thing you need from a guy that is mostly out of the rotation.  Pritchard hasn't really settled into that role either, I'm fine trading him, but not for a guy that can't even crack the rotation of one of the worst teams in the league.

[Roy H.]

I'll propose a deal:

BOS trades:  Gallinari, Pritchard, Jackson, better of HOU / POR #2
ORL trades:  Bamba

It is basically salary neutral for this year.

I like!  The Houston pick could be #32 which is essentially a 1st.

We don't have a first this year, so we can't give up a first in the 2024 draft, therefore, Brad is going to have to get creative.  I like this, definitely provides big depth but we'll ahve to make sure to scour the buyouts for wing depth.  I think with JB and JT nursing injuries, that's going to get important down the road deep into the playoffs.

The Houston pick only comes to us at 33 or worse, otherwise it’s Dallas or Miami.  But the Portland pick is aiming to be late 30s on its own.

I think PP has late first round (high level role/bench player on any team without the Cs depth at guard).  I think Bamba is a less valuable asset than Hachimura so the idea of trading a 1st plus a high 2nd seems to be an over pay. Gallinari plus Jackson worked for salary purposes in the trade machine I tried, but I have no idea if their algorithm is correct.

frankly given the contract, Gallinari might be more valuable than Bamba if he can come back this year.  Given the health, I'd probably do Bamba for Gallinari and Jackson, but no draft picks or other players.  I also might do Bamba, Hampton for Gallinari, Pritchard, and Jackson, but I think Pritchard makes more sense as a shooter off the bench than whatever Hampton's role might be.

What's wrong with Bamba's contract?  $10 million for a low-end starting-caliber center / good backup seems fair, and his deal is non-guaranteed next season.  And let's be real:  Gallo isn't coming back this year, and if he does, he's likely going to be slow, rusty and timid.

A floor-spacing defensive center is exactly what this team needs.  While I'd love to keep Pritchard -- both because he's solid depth and because he's got a tradeable contract next year -- having somebody who can spell both Timelord and Horford is important.

There is nothing wrong with Bamba's contract other than it is 3.5 million more than Gallinari's this year.  So he costs more.  Gallinari is better than Bamba at almost everything.  I get he is hurt, which is why I'd make the move, but no way I'd add Pritchard to it.  Way too much to give up for a guy that might not even play ahead of Kornet.

Bamba is significantly better than both Gallo (who literally adds zero) and Kornet.  And, I'd always trade a 4th PG for a backup center.

No he isn't.  He blocks shots better and rebounds better, but does nothing else as well as Gallo who is also more versatile in that he can play both PF and C, while Bamba can not.  Gallo is a much better fit with Boston than Bamba is, if he can get back to healthy.  He isn't now, so I'd do the swap just for the certainty, but not with any value added.

Gallo ads zero.  His "fit" is towel waver and rehabber.   There is essentially a 0% chance he comes back this year.  He's not Adrian Peterson.  34 year olds don't come back from ACL tears in 9 months.

Last time he tore his ACL -- in April 2013 -- he missed the remainder of that season, as well as the entire next season.  It took him 19 months to play again.  Now we're expecting him back in nine?  Despite being nine years older?

As I said, I'd make the trade, just not with Pritchard, a 1st, etc.  Bamba isn't any good.  There is a reason he is barely playing for the Magic.    In the last 12 games he has been a healthy scratch 5 times and is down under 10 mpg in the other 7 and he was a healthy scratch 14 games ago.  Bamba isn't good. Pritchard is significantly better than he is, it isn't close.  I'm not sure he'd play ahead of Kornet, who you all know I think blows. And Bamba is a pure center.  He has never played or guarded PF's in his life.  He'd be the 3rd or 4th center on this team.  If the trade is just injured Gallo and Jackson, then it is fine, anything more than that and it is a terrible trade.

Lol.  "It isn't close" doesn't make a false statement true.

Bamba leads in points per game, points per possession, FG%, eFG%, 2PT%, 3PT%, TS%, FT%, 3PM, FTA, rebounds, and blocks.  They have the same number of assists and steals, and Bamba has fewer turnovers.  Bamba has the better ORtg, DRtg, PER, WS, WS/48, BPM, OPM, DPM, and has a lower usage rate.  Pritchard is older, and is playing less.

Pritchard fouls less.  That is literally the only thing he has been better at.

EDIT:  I forgot VORP.  Bamba leads there, too.

Not on their career or even just last year.  Pritchard because of role doesn't get consistent time this year, but we've seen what he is with more consistent time.  Pritchard is better and a better fit for this team than a 3rd or 4th string center that isn't elite at anything.  Bamba doesn't have elite shot blocking or rebounding, that is the type of thing you need from a guy that is mostly out of the rotation.  Pritchard hasn't really settled into that role either, I'm fine trading him, but not for a guy that can't even crack the rotation of one of the worst teams in the league.

It seems weird to give Pritchard a pass for being behind better players in the rotation, but not Bamba.  Just apply things consistently. 

Bamba isn't an amazing player, but he'd bring more than we're getting from Gallo and Pritchard.  That's not particularly controversial.

[radiohead]

We’ve been talking about wing depth to help the Jays to get their minutes down. I’m not sure if Brad is cooking up a trade to get one or if he’s just willing to wait for the buyout market. In the meantime, why not give Melo a shot? Sign him to a 10 day or something and see if he has anything left in the tank. I know this idea has been floated around in the past but I think it’s worth a shot, specially with half the season done. Melo should be fresh and well rested.

[Roy H.]

We’ve been talking about wing depth to help the Jays to get their minutes down. I’m not sure if Brad is cooking up a trade to get one or if he’s just willing to wait for the buyout market. In the meantime, why not give Melo a shot? Sign him to a 10 day or something and see if he has anything left in the tank. I know this idea has been floated around in the past but I think it’s worth a shot, specially with half the season done. Melo should be fresh and well rested.

I think that he would have been a good Gallo replacement.  The NBA as a whole has seemingly spontaneously gone away from locker room question marks, though.  Carmelo, Dwight, Boogie, Whiteside, etc. 

[Roy H.]

Utah’s Malik Beasley and Jarred Vanderbilt have been discussed in trade talks with several teams around the league. In those conversations, Utah has given the indication that it would take the equivalent of a first-round pick to acquire each player, league sources told HoopsHype. – via Michael Scotto @ HoopsHype

Vanderbilt is another guy I'd be fine with.  Pritchard was a Danny guy; maybe he sees him as "the equivalent of a first-round pick".

BOS trades:  Pritchard, Jackson, TPE, better of 2023 second rounders
Utah trades:  Vanderbilt, NAW

[Moranis]

I'll propose a deal:

BOS trades:  Gallinari, Pritchard, Jackson, better of HOU / POR #2
ORL trades:  Bamba

It is basically salary neutral for this year.

I like!  The Houston pick could be #32 which is essentially a 1st.

We don't have a first this year, so we can't give up a first in the 2024 draft, therefore, Brad is going to have to get creative.  I like this, definitely provides big depth but we'll ahve to make sure to scour the buyouts for wing depth.  I think with JB and JT nursing injuries, that's going to get important down the road deep into the playoffs.

The Houston pick only comes to us at 33 or worse, otherwise it’s Dallas or Miami.  But the Portland pick is aiming to be late 30s on its own.

I think PP has late first round (high level role/bench player on any team without the Cs depth at guard).  I think Bamba is a less valuable asset than Hachimura so the idea of trading a 1st plus a high 2nd seems to be an over pay. Gallinari plus Jackson worked for salary purposes in the trade machine I tried, but I have no idea if their algorithm is correct.

frankly given the contract, Gallinari might be more valuable than Bamba if he can come back this year.  Given the health, I'd probably do Bamba for Gallinari and Jackson, but no draft picks or other players.  I also might do Bamba, Hampton for Gallinari, Pritchard, and Jackson, but I think Pritchard makes more sense as a shooter off the bench than whatever Hampton's role might be.

What's wrong with Bamba's contract?  $10 million for a low-end starting-caliber center / good backup seems fair, and his deal is non-guaranteed next season.  And let's be real:  Gallo isn't coming back this year, and if he does, he's likely going to be slow, rusty and timid.

A floor-spacing defensive center is exactly what this team needs.  While I'd love to keep Pritchard -- both because he's solid depth and because he's got a tradeable contract next year -- having somebody who can spell both Timelord and Horford is important.

There is nothing wrong with Bamba's contract other than it is 3.5 million more than Gallinari's this year.  So he costs more.  Gallinari is better than Bamba at almost everything.  I get he is hurt, which is why I'd make the move, but no way I'd add Pritchard to it.  Way too much to give up for a guy that might not even play ahead of Kornet.

Bamba is significantly better than both Gallo (who literally adds zero) and Kornet.  And, I'd always trade a 4th PG for a backup center.

No he isn't.  He blocks shots better and rebounds better, but does nothing else as well as Gallo who is also more versatile in that he can play both PF and C, while Bamba can not.  Gallo is a much better fit with Boston than Bamba is, if he can get back to healthy.  He isn't now, so I'd do the swap just for the certainty, but not with any value added.

Gallo ads zero.  His "fit" is towel waver and rehabber.   There is essentially a 0% chance he comes back this year.  He's not Adrian Peterson.  34 year olds don't come back from ACL tears in 9 months.

Last time he tore his ACL -- in April 2013 -- he missed the remainder of that season, as well as the entire next season.  It took him 19 months to play again.  Now we're expecting him back in nine?  Despite being nine years older?

As I said, I'd make the trade, just not with Pritchard, a 1st, etc.  Bamba isn't any good.  There is a reason he is barely playing for the Magic.    In the last 12 games he has been a healthy scratch 5 times and is down under 10 mpg in the other 7 and he was a healthy scratch 14 games ago.  Bamba isn't good. Pritchard is significantly better than he is, it isn't close.  I'm not sure he'd play ahead of Kornet, who you all know I think blows. And Bamba is a pure center.  He has never played or guarded PF's in his life.  He'd be the 3rd or 4th center on this team.  If the trade is just injured Gallo and Jackson, then it is fine, anything more than that and it is a terrible trade.

Lol.  "It isn't close" doesn't make a false statement true.

Bamba leads in points per game, points per possession, FG%, eFG%, 2PT%, 3PT%, TS%, FT%, 3PM, FTA, rebounds, and blocks.  They have the same number of assists and steals, and Bamba has fewer turnovers.  Bamba has the better ORtg, DRtg, PER, WS, WS/48, BPM, OPM, DPM, and has a lower usage rate.  Pritchard is older, and is playing less.

Pritchard fouls less.  That is literally the only thing he has been better at.

EDIT:  I forgot VORP.  Bamba leads there, too.

Not on their career or even just last year.  Pritchard because of role doesn't get consistent time this year, but we've seen what he is with more consistent time.  Pritchard is better and a better fit for this team than a 3rd or 4th string center that isn't elite at anything.  Bamba doesn't have elite shot blocking or rebounding, that is the type of thing you need from a guy that is mostly out of the rotation.  Pritchard hasn't really settled into that role either, I'm fine trading him, but not for a guy that can't even crack the rotation of one of the worst teams in the league.

It seems weird to give Pritchard a pass for being behind better players in the rotation, but not Bamba.  Just apply things consistently. 

Bamba isn't an amazing player, but he'd bring more than we're getting from Gallo and Pritchard.  That's not particularly controversial.

My point is, if you look at Pritchard and Gallo last year, they give you a lot more than what Bamba has at any time in his career and it isn't close.  Bamba is a 3rd or 4th string center, you don't give up value for that type of player especially to pay them 10 million a year.  Bamba isn't any good.  He is far more likely to be out of the league then playing meaningful minutes on a good team next year (I think he probably settles in as a vet minimum type player on a good team for several more years before he is out of the league before he is 30). 

[liam]

Utah’s Malik Beasley and Jarred Vanderbilt have been discussed in trade talks with several teams around the league. In those conversations, Utah has given the indication that it would take the equivalent of a first-round pick to acquire each player, league sources told HoopsHype. – via Michael Scotto @ HoopsHype

Vanderbilt is another guy I'd be fine with.  Pritchard was a Danny guy; maybe he sees him as "the equivalent of a first-round pick".

BOS trades:  Pritchard, Jackson, TPE, better of 2023 second rounders
Utah trades:  Vanderbilt, NAW

Vanderbilt would be a good versatile bench guy who can guard all the positions on the floor and bring a burst of energy off the bench. I'd give up a first for him as an all in move. It'd be a late first and we need to be all in on this year.

[Celtics2021]

I'll propose a deal:

BOS trades:  Gallinari, Pritchard, Jackson, better of HOU / POR #2
ORL trades:  Bamba

It is basically salary neutral for this year.

I like!  The Houston pick could be #32 which is essentially a 1st.

We don't have a first this year, so we can't give up a first in the 2024 draft, therefore, Brad is going to have to get creative.  I like this, definitely provides big depth but we'll ahve to make sure to scour the buyouts for wing depth.  I think with JB and JT nursing injuries, that's going to get important down the road deep into the playoffs.

The Houston pick only comes to us at 33 or worse, otherwise it’s Dallas or Miami.  But the Portland pick is aiming to be late 30s on its own.

I think PP has late first round (high level role/bench player on any team without the Cs depth at guard).  I think Bamba is a less valuable asset than Hachimura so the idea of trading a 1st plus a high 2nd seems to be an over pay. Gallinari plus Jackson worked for salary purposes in the trade machine I tried, but I have no idea if their algorithm is correct.

frankly given the contract, Gallinari might be more valuable than Bamba if he can come back this year.  Given the health, I'd probably do Bamba for Gallinari and Jackson, but no draft picks or other players.  I also might do Bamba, Hampton for Gallinari, Pritchard, and Jackson, but I think Pritchard makes more sense as a shooter off the bench than whatever Hampton's role might be.

What's wrong with Bamba's contract?  $10 million for a low-end starting-caliber center / good backup seems fair, and his deal is non-guaranteed next season.  And let's be real:  Gallo isn't coming back this year, and if he does, he's likely going to be slow, rusty and timid.

A floor-spacing defensive center is exactly what this team needs.  While I'd love to keep Pritchard -- both because he's solid depth and because he's got a tradeable contract next year -- having somebody who can spell both Timelord and Horford is important.

There is nothing wrong with Bamba's contract other than it is 3.5 million more than Gallinari's this year.  So he costs more.  Gallinari is better than Bamba at almost everything.  I get he is hurt, which is why I'd make the move, but no way I'd add Pritchard to it.  Way too much to give up for a guy that might not even play ahead of Kornet.

Bamba is significantly better than both Gallo (who literally adds zero) and Kornet.  And, I'd always trade a 4th PG for a backup center.

No he isn't.  He blocks shots better and rebounds better, but does nothing else as well as Gallo who is also more versatile in that he can play both PF and C, while Bamba can not.  Gallo is a much better fit with Boston than Bamba is, if he can get back to healthy.  He isn't now, so I'd do the swap just for the certainty, but not with any value added.

Gallo ads zero.  His "fit" is towel waver and rehabber.   There is essentially a 0% chance he comes back this year.  He's not Adrian Peterson.  34 year olds don't come back from ACL tears in 9 months.

Last time he tore his ACL -- in April 2013 -- he missed the remainder of that season, as well as the entire next season.  It took him 19 months to play again.  Now we're expecting him back in nine?  Despite being nine years older?

As I said, I'd make the trade, just not with Pritchard, a 1st, etc.  Bamba isn't any good.  There is a reason he is barely playing for the Magic.    In the last 12 games he has been a healthy scratch 5 times and is down under 10 mpg in the other 7 and he was a healthy scratch 14 games ago.  Bamba isn't good. Pritchard is significantly better than he is, it isn't close.  I'm not sure he'd play ahead of Kornet, who you all know I think blows. And Bamba is a pure center.  He has never played or guarded PF's in his life.  He'd be the 3rd or 4th center on this team.  If the trade is just injured Gallo and Jackson, then it is fine, anything more than that and it is a terrible trade.

Lol.  "It isn't close" doesn't make a false statement true.

Bamba leads in points per game, points per possession, FG%, eFG%, 2PT%, 3PT%, TS%, FT%, 3PM, FTA, rebounds, and blocks.  They have the same number of assists and steals, and Bamba has fewer turnovers.  Bamba has the better ORtg, DRtg, PER, WS, WS/48, BPM, OPM, DPM, and has a lower usage rate.  Pritchard is older, and is playing less.

Pritchard fouls less.  That is literally the only thing he has been better at.

EDIT:  I forgot VORP.  Bamba leads there, too.

Not on their career or even just last year.  Pritchard because of role doesn't get consistent time this year, but we've seen what he is with more consistent time.  Pritchard is better and a better fit for this team than a 3rd or 4th string center that isn't elite at anything.  Bamba doesn't have elite shot blocking or rebounding, that is the type of thing you need from a guy that is mostly out of the rotation.  Pritchard hasn't really settled into that role either, I'm fine trading him, but not for a guy that can't even crack the rotation of one of the worst teams in the league.

It seems weird to give Pritchard a pass for being behind better players in the rotation, but not Bamba.  Just apply things consistently. 

Bamba isn't an amazing player, but he'd bring more than we're getting from Gallo and Pritchard.  That's not particularly controversial.

The difference is Pritchard is behind:

1) Two players who were on the US national team
2) The reigning defensive player of the year
3) A former rookie of the year who will get strong 6th-man of the year consideration
4) Three players in their 9th, 7th, and 6th seasons, respectively.

Additionally, Pritchard is buried on a team that went to the NBA finals last year and has the best record this year, and is only in his third NBA season.

Meanwhile, Bamba is in his 5th nba season, playing for a team that is headed towards its third straight lottery appearance.  He is behind:

1) Another top-10 center from his draft, who while solid, has yet to garner any league-wide accolades.

2) A 4th-year former 2nd rounder who was salary-fodder from playoff teams twice last season, partly due to injury, partly due to performance.  Said player (Bol Bol) could get a deal only barely above the league minimum this past summer.

3) A 1st rounder from his draft who was cut by the Celtics after a few weeks of disastrous play barely two years ago, after having not having his rookie option picked up by a different team who dumped him to Boston.  He’s on a minimum-salary deal.

That Bamba can’t get ahead of any of these players screams volumes about his competency as an NBA player.  While he’d obviously be more useful than Gallo, it is highly debatable that he’d be more useful than Pritchard (whom I fully support trading because his use to the Celtics is questionable for the reasons outlined above).  It’s also questionable whether he’d beat out Kornet, since he can’t beat out Wagner, and the Celtics chose to keep Luke over Mo two seasons ago.

Gallo + Jackson and a crappy second or a stashed player?  Sure, why not, it might work.  But Pritchard and/or better/more picks?  We’d be better off standing pat.

[Moranis]

Yeah Vanderbilt would be a nice add, as would Beasley.

Beasley for Gallo, Grant, Jackson

Vanderbilt for 2025 1st (top 4)

Post-trade rotation

Guards - Smart, White, Brogdon, Pritchard
Wings - Tatum, Brown, Beasley, Hauser
Bigs - Horford, Rob, Vanderbilt, Kornet, Griffin

Works for me.

[Roy H.]

I'll propose a deal:

BOS trades:  Gallinari, Pritchard, Jackson, better of HOU / POR #2
ORL trades:  Bamba

It is basically salary neutral for this year.

I like!  The Houston pick could be #32 which is essentially a 1st.

We don't have a first this year, so we can't give up a first in the 2024 draft, therefore, Brad is going to have to get creative.  I like this, definitely provides big depth but we'll ahve to make sure to scour the buyouts for wing depth.  I think with JB and JT nursing injuries, that's going to get important down the road deep into the playoffs.

The Houston pick only comes to us at 33 or worse, otherwise it’s Dallas or Miami.  But the Portland pick is aiming to be late 30s on its own.

I think PP has late first round (high level role/bench player on any team without the Cs depth at guard).  I think Bamba is a less valuable asset than Hachimura so the idea of trading a 1st plus a high 2nd seems to be an over pay. Gallinari plus Jackson worked for salary purposes in the trade machine I tried, but I have no idea if their algorithm is correct.

frankly given the contract, Gallinari might be more valuable than Bamba if he can come back this year.  Given the health, I'd probably do Bamba for Gallinari and Jackson, but no draft picks or other players.  I also might do Bamba, Hampton for Gallinari, Pritchard, and Jackson, but I think Pritchard makes more sense as a shooter off the bench than whatever Hampton's role might be.

What's wrong with Bamba's contract?  $10 million for a low-end starting-caliber center / good backup seems fair, and his deal is non-guaranteed next season.  And let's be real:  Gallo isn't coming back this year, and if he does, he's likely going to be slow, rusty and timid.

A floor-spacing defensive center is exactly what this team needs.  While I'd love to keep Pritchard -- both because he's solid depth and because he's got a tradeable contract next year -- having somebody who can spell both Timelord and Horford is important.

There is nothing wrong with Bamba's contract other than it is 3.5 million more than Gallinari's this year.  So he costs more.  Gallinari is better than Bamba at almost everything.  I get he is hurt, which is why I'd make the move, but no way I'd add Pritchard to it.  Way too much to give up for a guy that might not even play ahead of Kornet.

Bamba is significantly better than both Gallo (who literally adds zero) and Kornet.  And, I'd always trade a 4th PG for a backup center.

No he isn't.  He blocks shots better and rebounds better, but does nothing else as well as Gallo who is also more versatile in that he can play both PF and C, while Bamba can not.  Gallo is a much better fit with Boston than Bamba is, if he can get back to healthy.  He isn't now, so I'd do the swap just for the certainty, but not with any value added.

Gallo ads zero.  His "fit" is towel waver and rehabber.   There is essentially a 0% chance he comes back this year.  He's not Adrian Peterson.  34 year olds don't come back from ACL tears in 9 months.

Last time he tore his ACL -- in April 2013 -- he missed the remainder of that season, as well as the entire next season.  It took him 19 months to play again.  Now we're expecting him back in nine?  Despite being nine years older?

As I said, I'd make the trade, just not with Pritchard, a 1st, etc.  Bamba isn't any good.  There is a reason he is barely playing for the Magic.    In the last 12 games he has been a healthy scratch 5 times and is down under 10 mpg in the other 7 and he was a healthy scratch 14 games ago.  Bamba isn't good. Pritchard is significantly better than he is, it isn't close.  I'm not sure he'd play ahead of Kornet, who you all know I think blows. And Bamba is a pure center.  He has never played or guarded PF's in his life.  He'd be the 3rd or 4th center on this team.  If the trade is just injured Gallo and Jackson, then it is fine, anything more than that and it is a terrible trade.

Lol.  "It isn't close" doesn't make a false statement true.

Bamba leads in points per game, points per possession, FG%, eFG%, 2PT%, 3PT%, TS%, FT%, 3PM, FTA, rebounds, and blocks.  They have the same number of assists and steals, and Bamba has fewer turnovers.  Bamba has the better ORtg, DRtg, PER, WS, WS/48, BPM, OPM, DPM, and has a lower usage rate.  Pritchard is older, and is playing less.

Pritchard fouls less.  That is literally the only thing he has been better at.

EDIT:  I forgot VORP.  Bamba leads there, too.

Not on their career or even just last year.  Pritchard because of role doesn't get consistent time this year, but we've seen what he is with more consistent time.  Pritchard is better and a better fit for this team than a 3rd or 4th string center that isn't elite at anything.  Bamba doesn't have elite shot blocking or rebounding, that is the type of thing you need from a guy that is mostly out of the rotation.  Pritchard hasn't really settled into that role either, I'm fine trading him, but not for a guy that can't even crack the rotation of one of the worst teams in the league.

It seems weird to give Pritchard a pass for being behind better players in the rotation, but not Bamba.  Just apply things consistently. 

Bamba isn't an amazing player, but he'd bring more than we're getting from Gallo and Pritchard.  That's not particularly controversial.

The difference is Pritchard is behind:

1) Two players who were on the US national team
2) The reigning defensive player of the year
3) A former rookie of the year who will get strong 6th-man of the year consideration
4) Three players in their 9th, 7th, and 6th seasons, respectively.

Additionally, Pritchard is buried on a team that went to the NBA finals last year and has the best record this year, and is only in his third NBA season.

Meanwhile, Bamba is in his 5th nba season, playing for a team that is headed towards its third straight lottery appearance.  He is behind:

1) Another top-10 center from his draft, who while solid, has yet to garner any league-wide accolades.

2) A 4th-year former 2nd rounder who was salary-fodder from playoff teams twice last season, partly due to injury, partly due to performance.  Said player (Bol Bol) could get a deal only barely above the league minimum this past summer.

3) A 1st rounder from his draft who was cut by the Celtics after a few weeks of disastrous play barely two years ago, after having not having his rookie option picked up by a different team who dumped him to Boston.  He’s on a minimum-salary deal.

That Bamba can’t get ahead of any of these players screams volumes about his competency as an NBA player.  While he’d obviously be more useful than Gallo, it is highly debatable that he’d be more useful than Pritchard (whom I fully support trading because his use to the Celtics is questionable for the reasons outlined above).  It’s also questionable whether he’d beat out Kornet, since he can’t beat out Wagner, and the Celtics chose to keep Luke over
Mo two seasons ago.

Gallo + Jackson and a crappy second or a stashed player?  Sure, why not, it might work.  But Pritchard and/or better/more picks?  We’d be better off standing pat.

I didn't realize there was so much sentimentality attached to Pritchard, who has been a below replacement value player this season.

But, your description of Orlando's size seems a bit disingenuous.  Bol Bol is a guy who "could get a deal only barely above the league minimum this past summer"?  While technically true, that's intentionally misleading regarding the year he's having.  Same thing with Wagner:  he's playing very well in Orlando (19 / 9 / 3 per 36 minutes.  It's not like Bamba is behind scrubs.

Bamba has been in Orlando's rotation all season, but sure, he's lost minutes because Orlando has a very talented front court.  He's missing time now because Orlando is playing Jonathan Issac.  He also started 69 games last season and played fairly well.

[Vermont Green]

Utah’s Malik Beasley and Jarred Vanderbilt have been discussed in trade talks with several teams around the league. In those conversations, Utah has given the indication that it would take the equivalent of a first-round pick to acquire each player, league sources told HoopsHype. – via Michael Scotto @ HoopsHype

Vanderbilt is another guy I'd be fine with.  Pritchard was a Danny guy; maybe he sees him as "the equivalent of a first-round pick".

BOS trades:  Pritchard, Jackson, TPE, better of 2023 second rounders
Utah trades:  Vanderbilt, NAW

Vanderbilt would be a good versatile bench guy who can guard all the positions on the floor and bring a burst of energy off the bench. I'd give up a first for him as an all in move. It'd be a late first and we need to be all in on this year.

Sure, Vanderbilt seems like a perfect fit.  A young, athletic PF with an improving 3pt shot.  I guess Kessler and Markkanen is their front court of the future.  Couldn't this be a very simple trade, Vanderbilt into a TPE and a first going back?  Or we could send Pritchard back  instead of a first (maybe with a second).  Vanderbilt will be 24 in April.  Been in the league for 5 seasons already.

[liam]

Utah’s Malik Beasley and Jarred Vanderbilt have been discussed in trade talks with several teams around the league. In those conversations, Utah has given the indication that it would take the equivalent of a first-round pick to acquire each player, league sources told HoopsHype. – via Michael Scotto @ HoopsHype

Vanderbilt is another guy I'd be fine with.  Pritchard was a Danny guy; maybe he sees him as "the equivalent of a first-round pick".

BOS trades:  Pritchard, Jackson, TPE, better of 2023 second rounders
Utah trades:  Vanderbilt, NAW

Vanderbilt would be a good versatile bench guy who can guard all the positions on the floor and bring a burst of energy off the bench. I'd give up a first for him as an all in move. It'd be a late first and we need to be all in on this year.

Sure, Vanderbilt seems like a perfect fit.  A young, athletic PF with an improving 3pt shot.  I guess Kessler and Markkanen is their front court of the future.  Couldn't this be a very simple trade, Vanderbilt into a TPE and a first going back?  Or we could send Pritchard back  instead of a first (maybe with a second).  Vanderbilt will be 24 in April.  Been in the league for 5 seasons already.

I'd rather send a 1st and TPE than PP. PP can play now when we might need him and that pick might never play.

[Kuberski33]

We’ve been talking about wing depth to help the Jays to get their minutes down. I’m not sure if Brad is cooking up a trade to get one or if he’s just willing to wait for the buyout market. In the meantime, why not give Melo a shot? Sign him to a 10 day or something and see if he has anything left in the tank. I know this idea has been floated around in the past but I think it’s worth a shot, specially with half the season done. Melo should be fresh and well rested.

I think at this point they want someone who can also defend a little bit.

[Roy H.]

Utah’s Malik Beasley and Jarred Vanderbilt have been discussed in trade talks with several teams around the league. In those conversations, Utah has given the indication that it would take the equivalent of a first-round pick to acquire each player, league sources told HoopsHype. – via Michael Scotto @ HoopsHype

Vanderbilt is another guy I'd be fine with.  Pritchard was a Danny guy; maybe he sees him as "the equivalent of a first-round pick".

BOS trades:  Pritchard, Jackson, TPE, better of 2023 second rounders
Utah trades:  Vanderbilt, NAW

Vanderbilt would be a good versatile bench guy who can guard all the positions on the floor and bring a burst of energy off the bench. I'd give up a first for him as an all in move. It'd be a late first and we need to be all in on this year.

Sure, Vanderbilt seems like a perfect fit.  A young, athletic PF with an improving 3pt shot.  I guess Kessler and Markkanen is their front court of the future.  Couldn't this be a very simple trade, Vanderbilt into a TPE and a first going back?  Or we could send Pritchard back  instead of a first (maybe with a second).  Vanderbilt will be 24 in April.  Been in the league for 5 seasons already.

I'd rather send a 1st and TPE than PP. PP can play now when we might need him and that pick might never play.

The 1st has more value to other teams though, and could be used in a future deal.

[Celtics2021]

I'll propose a deal:

BOS trades:  Gallinari, Pritchard, Jackson, better of HOU / POR #2
ORL trades:  Bamba

It is basically salary neutral for this year.

I like!  The Houston pick could be #32 which is essentially a 1st.

We don't have a first this year, so we can't give up a first in the 2024 draft, therefore, Brad is going to have to get creative.  I like this, definitely provides big depth but we'll ahve to make sure to scour the buyouts for wing depth.  I think with JB and JT nursing injuries, that's going to get important down the road deep into the playoffs.

The Houston pick only comes to us at 33 or worse, otherwise it’s Dallas or Miami.  But the Portland pick is aiming to be late 30s on its own.

I think PP has late first round (high level role/bench player on any team without the Cs depth at guard).  I think Bamba is a less valuable asset than Hachimura so the idea of trading a 1st plus a high 2nd seems to be an over pay. Gallinari plus Jackson worked for salary purposes in the trade machine I tried, but I have no idea if their algorithm is correct.

frankly given the contract, Gallinari might be more valuable than Bamba if he can come back this year.  Given the health, I'd probably do Bamba for Gallinari and Jackson, but no draft picks or other players.  I also might do Bamba, Hampton for Gallinari, Pritchard, and Jackson, but I think Pritchard makes more sense as a shooter off the bench than whatever Hampton's role might be.

What's wrong with Bamba's contract?  $10 million for a low-end starting-caliber center / good backup seems fair, and his deal is non-guaranteed next season.  And let's be real:  Gallo isn't coming back this year, and if he does, he's likely going to be slow, rusty and timid.

A floor-spacing defensive center is exactly what this team needs.  While I'd love to keep Pritchard -- both because he's solid depth and because he's got a tradeable contract next year -- having somebody who can spell both Timelord and Horford is important.

There is nothing wrong with Bamba's contract other than it is 3.5 million more than Gallinari's this year.  So he costs more.  Gallinari is better than Bamba at almost everything.  I get he is hurt, which is why I'd make the move, but no way I'd add Pritchard to it.  Way too much to give up for a guy that might not even play ahead of Kornet.

Bamba is significantly better than both Gallo (who literally adds zero) and Kornet.  And, I'd always trade a 4th PG for a backup center.

No he isn't.  He blocks shots better and rebounds better, but does nothing else as well as Gallo who is also more versatile in that he can play both PF and C, while Bamba can not.  Gallo is a much better fit with Boston than Bamba is, if he can get back to healthy.  He isn't now, so I'd do the swap just for the certainty, but not with any value added.

Gallo ads zero.  His "fit" is towel waver and rehabber.   There is essentially a 0% chance he comes back this year.  He's not Adrian Peterson.  34 year olds don't come back from ACL tears in 9 months.

Last time he tore his ACL -- in April 2013 -- he missed the remainder of that season, as well as the entire next season.  It took him 19 months to play again.  Now we're expecting him back in nine?  Despite being nine years older?

As I said, I'd make the trade, just not with Pritchard, a 1st, etc.  Bamba isn't any good.  There is a reason he is barely playing for the Magic.    In the last 12 games he has been a healthy scratch 5 times and is down under 10 mpg in the other 7 and he was a healthy scratch 14 games ago.  Bamba isn't good. Pritchard is significantly better than he is, it isn't close.  I'm not sure he'd play ahead of Kornet, who you all know I think blows. And Bamba is a pure center.  He has never played or guarded PF's in his life.  He'd be the 3rd or 4th center on this team.  If the trade is just injured Gallo and Jackson, then it is fine, anything more than that and it is a terrible trade.

Lol.  "It isn't close" doesn't make a false statement true.

Bamba leads in points per game, points per possession, FG%, eFG%, 2PT%, 3PT%, TS%, FT%, 3PM, FTA, rebounds, and blocks.  They have the same number of assists and steals, and Bamba has fewer turnovers.  Bamba has the better ORtg, DRtg, PER, WS, WS/48, BPM, OPM, DPM, and has a lower usage rate.  Pritchard is older, and is playing less.

Pritchard fouls less.  That is literally the only thing he has been better at.

EDIT:  I forgot VORP.  Bamba leads there, too.

Not on their career or even just last year.  Pritchard because of role doesn't get consistent time this year, but we've seen what he is with more consistent time.  Pritchard is better and a better fit for this team than a 3rd or 4th string center that isn't elite at anything.  Bamba doesn't have elite shot blocking or rebounding, that is the type of thing you need from a guy that is mostly out of the rotation.  Pritchard hasn't really settled into that role either, I'm fine trading him, but not for a guy that can't even crack the rotation of one of the worst teams in the league.

It seems weird to give Pritchard a pass for being behind better players in the rotation, but not Bamba.  Just apply things consistently. 

Bamba isn't an amazing player, but he'd bring more than we're getting from Gallo and Pritchard.  That's not particularly controversial.

The difference is Pritchard is behind:

1) Two players who were on the US national team
2) The reigning defensive player of the year
3) A former rookie of the year who will get strong 6th-man of the year consideration
4) Three players in their 9th, 7th, and 6th seasons, respectively.

Additionally, Pritchard is buried on a team that went to the NBA finals last year and has the best record this year, and is only in his third NBA season.

Meanwhile, Bamba is in his 5th nba season, playing for a team that is headed towards its third straight lottery appearance.  He is behind:

1) Another top-10 center from his draft, who while solid, has yet to garner any league-wide accolades.

2) A 4th-year former 2nd rounder who was salary-fodder from playoff teams twice last season, partly due to injury, partly due to performance.  Said player (Bol Bol) could get a deal only barely above the league minimum this past summer.

3) A 1st rounder from his draft who was cut by the Celtics after a few weeks of disastrous play barely two years ago, after having not having his rookie option picked up by a different team who dumped him to Boston.  He’s on a minimum-salary deal.

That Bamba can’t get ahead of any of these players screams volumes about his competency as an NBA player.  While he’d obviously be more useful than Gallo, it is highly debatable that he’d be more useful than Pritchard (whom I fully support trading because his use to the Celtics is questionable for the reasons outlined above).  It’s also questionable whether he’d beat out Kornet, since he can’t beat out Wagner, and the Celtics chose to keep Luke over
Mo two seasons ago.

Gallo + Jackson and a crappy second or a stashed player?  Sure, why not, it might work.  But Pritchard and/or better/more picks?  We’d be better off standing pat.

I didn't realize there was so much sentimentality attached to Pritchard, who has been a below replacement value player this season.

But, your description of Orlando's size seems a bit disingenuous.  Bol Bol is a guy who "could get a deal only barely above the league minimum this past summer"?  While technically true, that's intentionally misleading regarding the year he's having.  Same thing with Wagner:  he's playing very well in Orlando (19 / 9 / 3 per 36 minutes.  It's not like Bamba is behind scrubs.

Bamba has been in Orlando's rotation all season, but sure, he's lost minutes because Orlando has a very talented front court.  He's missing time now because Orlando is playing Jonathan Issac.  He also started 69 games last season and played fairly well.

Is it disingenuous?  Orlando is a bad team.  Bad teams still score points and get rebounds.  Does it matter the counting stats of the guys ahead of him?  After three seasons in the NBA, he signed a rookie extension deal with only one guaranteed season, at a number not significantly above his qualifying offer.  After starting a lot of games last year, for a bottom three team, I don’t see how it’s an argument in his favor that he is now a fourth-stringer (or the 6th big if you also want to put Banchero and Isaac ahead of him) on a team that’s now improved itself to be bottom 6.  This is not a guy who just suddenly got buried.  This is a guy who showed very little in his first three seasons despite his draft pedigree, was given a bunch of time in a tank year, and is now again out of the rotation because the team (which is still not a good team) added a player and got healthier.