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Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup Official Thread
« Reply #405 on: December 12, 2022, 10:18:41 AM »

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Penalties are hard, but I do think sometimes the striker tries to get to cute and with too much placement.  I get it, no one wants the keeper to block it, but the keeper blocking it is so much better than being off target.  Don't get too cute.  Just hit on goal and hope the keeper guesses wrong, but even if they guess right, hope you hit it hard enough to get through or it is deflected to someone else (or even you) and you get a second crack at it.
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« Reply #406 on: December 12, 2022, 10:45:54 AM »

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Penalties are hard, but I do think sometimes the striker tries to get to cute and with too much placement.  I get it, no one wants the keeper to block it, but the keeper blocking it is so much better than being off target.  Don't get too cute.  Just hit on goal and hope the keeper guesses wrong, but even if they guess right, hope you hit it hard enough to get through or it is deflected to someone else (or even you) and you get a second crack at it.

Exactly. From that distance, if you get it on net there's no way the keeper can grab and hold it. Either you get a chance for a rebound shot, or a corner kick.

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« Reply #407 on: December 12, 2022, 10:59:49 AM »

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AP quotes former Switzerland international and Fifa goalkeeping analyst Pascal Zuberbühler saying that goalkeepers had adapted well to a recent rule change requiring them to keep part of one foot touching the goalline before a penalty is taken.

The overall save rate for goalkeepers facing penalties in Qatar was up to 34% compared to 25% four years ago. “It is all about the timing and the first good step,” Zuberbühler said.

That is interesting info for the penalty discussion. I had not realized they made change of rules about what GK can do on the penalty. Big advantage for GK. Allows them more room for movement; can cover more of the goal area better.

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« Reply #408 on: December 12, 2022, 11:14:13 AM »

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That 2nd penalty in the same game is a tough one.

Listening to penalty kick takers in the past; they talk, most of them, about how they make their mind up well in advance before the match about where they are going to send the ball. Which direction, how high, how much power. It is all pre-determined. So then there is no decision making in the moment, just execution. No getting lost in your thoughts, lost in indecision. Pure action. You know what you are going to do and you go out and do it.

That 2nd penalty though ... and they talk about this too. That 2nd penalty is not planned for. They have no decision made about prior to the game of what they will do with a 2nd penalty. There is a bit of panic. Do I do the same thing? Do I go the same direction? Or does the keeper know what I want to do? Do I have to do something different? Or will the keeper be expecting me to go the other side since I went the left last time?

There is overthinking. There is indecision. There is panic. This is not execution of a pre-determined tactic. And these guys are great penalty kickers! The guys who regularly take penalties for their teams. This is how they operate and what they experience when asked to take a 2nd penalty same match.

This is why I always get nervous when I see the same penalty kicker for the 2nd time in a match. You have all this added angst that does not exist with the 1st penalty. Oftentimes you are just better off letting someone else take the penalty rather than taking the 2nd one yourself. Step aside and let someone else do it.

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« Reply #409 on: December 13, 2022, 02:58:39 PM »

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Alvarez setting this game on fire late 1st half.

2-0 Argentina

How lucky was he on that 2nd one? So many lucky ricochets.

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« Reply #410 on: December 13, 2022, 03:01:13 PM »

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That fullback for Croatia, Sosa, is absolutely killing them. What a liability against the pace of Argentina
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« Reply #411 on: December 13, 2022, 03:30:38 PM »

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That is a ridiculous. Amazing Messi.

What a run, what a turn, then finishes with the pass to Alvarez for the finish. Ridiculously good.

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« Reply #412 on: December 13, 2022, 03:32:32 PM »

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« Reply #413 on: December 13, 2022, 07:35:50 PM »

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Argentina rounding into form at the right time.
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« Reply #414 on: December 13, 2022, 07:38:32 PM »

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« Reply #415 on: December 13, 2022, 08:23:31 PM »

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« Reply #416 on: December 14, 2022, 01:49:11 AM »

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« Reply #417 on: December 14, 2022, 01:46:22 PM »

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Morocco got a really good chance here.

France rely more on individuality than teamwork in attack. A top defensive team like Morocco could cause them a lot of problems. Just got to avoid conceding an early goal. If they have to chase the game, France will pick them apart.

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« Reply #418 on: December 14, 2022, 02:07:18 PM »

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Worst possible start for Morocco. It'll be tough for them now. Don't think they are a good enough attacking team to chase this game without leaving too many gaps going the other way for France to take advantage of.

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« Reply #419 on: December 14, 2022, 02:08:55 PM »

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It is so early I suppose they'll just keep defending & counter attacking for now. Keep it 0-1 and hope to steal a goal on a breakaway.