NBA Season 2022-23

[Who]

I don't like Toronto for Barton. Where is the playing time?

They are loaded at forward with Siakam, Scottie Barnes, Anunoby. No minutes there. They were playin small with Siakam at center earlier in the season but that was before getting Poeltl. They also have Achiuwa at backup center. So less small ball now than before. Plus they have Thad Young and Otto Porter as other frontcourt players.

VanVleet and Gary Trent Jr start at guard. Barton is not a PG so his minutes are restricted to backing up Trent Jr. That is 15mpg.

Barton could have gotten a chance at a better role elsewhere. Somewhere where there was minutes both at backup SG and backup SF. Toronto is not a good home for him.

He will be the primary backup at SG and can play some mins at SF as well. Where do you think he would have gotten a better role on a team that’s also (likely) going to be in the playoffs?

I thought Philly would have been great for him.

I just don’t see where the minutes would come from. They have Milton, Maxey and McDaniels off the bench. They absorb virtually all the non starter minutes at PG, SG, SF.

I rate Barton ahead of Milton and McDaniels.

I see Barton playing a good role alongside the starters. They need more foot-speed in their lineup with one of the slow forwards T Harris or PJ Tucker spending more time on the bench.

[celticsclay]

Just to put this to bed. Simmons is owed 77 million fully guaranteed over next two years. No team is taking that in the NBA except for maybe heat with Robinson but even then probably takes a first at least. Getting him for an expiring contract and taking on an extra 40 million of dead money for Charlotte? This is insane. I’m gonna give the benefit of the doubt that people didn’t understand how bad his contract was.

[Goldstar88]

Just to put this to bed. Simmons is owed 77 million fully guaranteed over next two years. No team is taking that in the NBA except for maybe heat with Robinson but even then probably takes a first at least. Getting him for an expiring contract and taking on an extra 40 million of dead money for Charlotte? This is insane. I’m gonna give the benefit of the doubt that people didn’t understand how bad his contract was.

Ben is overpaid, but a team like the Spurs could use him to play alongside Johnson and Vasell. Not like free agents are lining up to go play in San Antonio.

Simmons for McDermott, Grahm, and Birch works in the trade machine. Those 3 players aren’t going to be part of the rebuild in SA anyway.

[celticsclay]

Just to put this to bed. Simmons is owed 77 million fully guaranteed over next two years. No team is taking that in the NBA except for maybe heat with Robinson but even then probably takes a first at least. Getting him for an expiring contract and taking on an extra 40 million of dead money for Charlotte? This is insane. I’m gonna give the benefit of the doubt that people didn’t understand how bad his contract was.

Ben is overpaid, but a team like the Spurs could use him to play alongside Johnson and Vasell. Not like free agents are lining up to go play in San Antonio.

Simmons for McDermott, Grahm, and Birch works in the trade machine. Those 3 players aren’t going to be part of the rebuild in SA anyway.

Are the nets giving up three first round picks as part of this trade? Cause otherwise no. This is very baffling to me. 77 million guaranteed to a small market team for a guy that hasn’t played in two years. Can someone try to make a coherent discussion on why Charlotte or spurs would consider this even if they got picks? Charlotte has been trying to dump salary all season for guys like rozier and oubre that actually are decent nba players.

[celticsclay]

Lakers get blown out in second half after leading at half. Didn’t watch but Davis had good stats.

[Goldstar88]

Just to put this to bed. Simmons is owed 77 million fully guaranteed over next two years. No team is taking that in the NBA except for maybe heat with Robinson but even then probably takes a first at least. Getting him for an expiring contract and taking on an extra 40 million of dead money for Charlotte? This is insane. I’m gonna give the benefit of the doubt that people didn’t understand how bad his contract was.

Ben is overpaid, but a team like the Spurs could use him to play alongside Johnson and Vasell. Not like free agents are lining up to go play in San Antonio.

Simmons for McDermott, Grahm, and Birch works in the trade machine. Those 3 players aren’t going to be part of the rebuild in SA anyway.

Are the nets giving up three first round picks as part of this trade? Cause otherwise no. This is very baffling to me. 77 million guaranteed to a small market team for a guy that hasn’t played in two years. Can someone try to make a coherent discussion on why Charlotte or spurs would consider this even if they got picks? Charlotte has been trying to dump salary all season for guys like rozier and oubre that actually are decent nba players.

Sure. Nets give up Simmons, plus a first and get McDermott, Grahm, and Birch from SA. So the Spurs are giving up 3 players that aren’t part of the rebuild and roll the dice on Simmons fitting in with Vasell and Johnson. If Ben can get back to 80% of what he was in Philly, that’s a pretty solid trio. Makes sense for both teams.

[#1P4P]

Watched Lakers-Grizzlies tonight and I noticed that Tillman and Aldama are getting more minutes than Clarke. It is confirmed by the recent game logs while Adams is out with an injury.

His extension hasn’t even kicked in, but advanced metrics love him and he can jump off the screen with the eye test.

With a Big rotation of Rob, Al, Gallinari, Muscala, and Grant, we don’t need another (of course it depends on the final result this season and what the last three contribute to it), but it’s worth it to keep an eye on.

[SparzWizard]

Bucks half game ahead of us after taking down the Nets.

[Phantom255x]

Bucks half game ahead of us after taking down the Nets.

Feels like every team that plays them does well against them in the first half but then completely folds in the 2nd half. Even when BKN was up 15 I thought they’d blow it and they did

Oh well. C’s need to bounceback and tie it back up tomorrow. Its going to be a dogfight until the very end of the regular season that’s for sure

[celticsclay]

Just to put this to bed. Simmons is owed 77 million fully guaranteed over next two years. No team is taking that in the NBA except for maybe heat with Robinson but even then probably takes a first at least. Getting him for an expiring contract and taking on an extra 40 million of dead money for Charlotte? This is insane. I’m gonna give the benefit of the doubt that people didn’t understand how bad his contract was.

Ben is overpaid, but a team like the Spurs could use him to play alongside Johnson and Vasell. Not like free agents are lining up to go play in San Antonio.

Simmons for McDermott, Grahm, and Birch works in the trade machine. Those 3 players aren’t going to be part of the rebuild in SA anyway.

Are the nets giving up three first round picks as part of this trade? Cause otherwise no. This is very baffling to me. 77 million guaranteed to a small market team for a guy that hasn’t played in two years. Can someone try to make a coherent discussion on why Charlotte or spurs would consider this even if they got picks? Charlotte has been trying to dump salary all season for guys like rozier and oubre that actually are decent nba players.

Sure. Nets give up Simmons, plus a first and get McDermott, Grahm, and Birch from SA. So the Spurs are giving up 3 players that aren’t part of the rebuild and roll the dice on Simmons fitting in with Vasell and Johnson. If Ben can get back to 80% of what he was in Philly, that’s a pretty solid trio. Makes sense for both teams.

I would imagine the most owed salary the spurs have ever taken on in a trade is less than simmons makes the next two years. You are really underselling how bad simmons contract is. If any team would consider it would be a big market team but even then he has to show he can stay on the court for even 20 games before anyone would even start to consider touching him.

[SparzWizard]

Bucks half game ahead of us after taking down the Nets.

Feels like every team that plays them does well against them in the first half but then completely folds in the 2nd half. Even when BKN was up 15 I thought they’d blow it and they did

Oh well. C’s need to bounceback and tie it back up tomorrow. Its going to be a dogfight until the very end of the regular season that’s for sure

At this rate, I don't even know if the Bucks are gonna lose another game this regular season lol. They have a cupcake schedule and seem to be catching fire. 15 wins in a row, crazy.

[celticsclay]

New looks mavs seem to be awful

[hpantazo]

New looks mavs seem to be awful

It's quite impressive how that trade killed their season. They didn't even have the post-trade honeymoon that Kyrie is usually good for before he blows up.

[#1P4P]

Bucks half game ahead of us after taking down the Nets.

Feels like every team that plays them does well against them in the first half but then completely folds in the 2nd half. Even when BKN was up 15 I thought they’d blow it and they did

Oh well. C’s need to bounceback and tie it back up tomorrow. Its going to be a dogfight until the very end of the regular season that’s for sure

At this rate, I don't even know if the Bucks are gonna lose another game this regular season lol. They have a cupcake schedule and seem to be catching fire. 15 wins in a row, crazy.

The streak is impressive especially with Giannis missing a few of those games. Adding Crowder at the deadline was a master stroke, they have chemistry, and this might be the best iteration of the Bucks (even better than the title team).

That said, Giannis leads the league in USG% (at 37.7%) and it’s his career high for a season. They won the title when his USG was at the lowest of the past 4 seasons (32%) and teams that rely that heavily on a specific player’s offense typically flame out in the playoffs.

Giannis is special and he might buck the trend, but I’m not worried either way because I think that we are built to beat them and can do so with/out home court advantage.

[tazzmaniac]

New looks mavs seem to be awful

It's quite impressive how that trade killed their season. They didn't even have the post-trade honeymoon that Kyrie is usually good for before he blows up.

Practice makes perfect.  So Kyrie should be really good at killing a team now.