NBA Season 2022-23

[DefenseWinsChamps]

Reports out that the Nets will likely shut down Simmons for the rest of the season and look to offload him this summer

No player is untradeable in the NBA, but I'm curious what assets they'd have to attach to get another team to take Simmons.  $78 million over two years is a lot of cheddar.

I think to Charlotte for Hayward’s expiring is their best chance to move him asset-free.

Are they just relying upon MJ's stupidity there?  Hayward has negative value except as an expiring contract, but Simmons has to have extreme negative value, right?  Simmons is still young and has accolades in his past, but he's also a malingerer who ahas a bad back and who has focus issues (to be kind).

It may be that Simmons is done in the NBA, but the talent is still there somewhere under the surface. If all you give up is Hayward, wouldn't it be worth it?

Also, a team of of Wemby, Ball, and Simmons is fun to think about on paper.

[celticsclay]

Reports out that the Nets will likely shut down Simmons for the rest of the season and look to offload him this summer

No player is untradeable in the NBA, but I'm curious what assets they'd have to attach to get another team to take Simmons.  $78 million over two years is a lot of cheddar.

I think to Charlotte for Hayward’s expiring is their best chance to move him asset-free.

Are they just relying upon MJ's stupidity there?  Hayward has negative value except as an expiring contract, but Simmons has to have extreme negative value, right?  Simmons is still young and has accolades in his past, but he's also a malingerer who ahas a bad back and who has focus issues (to be kind).

Only I guy I think they might be able to trade him for is duncan Robinson who has a similarly awful contract. Wonder if nets just consider stretching him or buying him out at some point. A team would give him a flier on minimum but on rare occasions he played simmons averaged more fouls than points.

[celticsclay]

Reports out that the Nets will likely shut down Simmons for the rest of the season and look to offload him this summer

No player is untradeable in the NBA, but I'm curious what assets they'd have to attach to get another team to take Simmons.  $78 million over two years is a lot of cheddar.

I think to Charlotte for Hayward’s expiring is their best chance to move him asset-free.

Are they just relying upon MJ's stupidity there?  Hayward has negative value except as an expiring contract, but Simmons has to have extreme negative value, right?  Simmons is still young and has accolades in his past, but he's also a malingerer who ahas a bad back and who has focus issues (to be kind).

It may be that Simmons is done in the NBA, but the talent is still there somewhere under the surface. If all you give up is Hayward, wouldn't it be worth it?

Also, a team of of Wemby, Ball, and Simmons is fun to think about on paper.

For any team? No. For the small market hornets. Absolutely not lol. Everyone knew Westbrook was gonna take a first rounder to move even as an expiring and he actually plays games and can be good of the bench.

[Donoghus]

Shams Charania
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The Bulls have waived Goran Dragic.

[Donoghus]

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Free agent G/F Will Barton is finalizing a deal with the Toronto Raptors, sources tell
@TheAthletic
 
@Stadium
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[Goldstar88]

Shams Charania
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Free agent G/F Will Barton is finalizing a deal with the Toronto Raptors, sources tell
@TheAthletic
 
@Stadium
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Makes sense. He should get a good amount of playing time there.

[celticsclay]

Shams Charania
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Free agent G/F Will Barton is finalizing a deal with the Toronto Raptors, sources tell
@TheAthletic
 
@Stadium
.

Makes sense. He should get a good amount of playing time there.

Ugh. Bummmer

[Moranis]

Simmons in Charlotte would be interesting.  He'd be on a bad team with basically no pressure and no one watching, and I do actually think from a roster standpoint the Hornets would have the right pieces around him with Rozier, Ball, whoever they land in the draft, and "shooters" like Oubre, Washington, Bouknight (if he figures it out), and presumably Bridges.  I also think if they added Rozier for Dinwiddie, that would balance out the value a bit as well.

Simmons, Dinwiddie for Rozier, Hayward 

[Who]

I don't like Toronto for Barton. Where is the playing time?

They are loaded at forward with Siakam, Scottie Barnes, Anunoby. No minutes there. They were playin small with Siakam at center earlier in the season but that was before getting Poeltl. They also have Achiuwa at backup center. So less small ball now than before. Plus they have Thad Young and Otto Porter as other frontcourt players.

VanVleet and Gary Trent Jr start at guard. Barton is not a PG so his minutes are restricted to backing up Trent Jr. That is 15mpg.

Barton could have gotten a chance at a better role elsewhere. Somewhere where there was minutes both at backup SG and backup SF. Toronto is not a good home for him.

[Goldstar88]

I don't like Toronto for Barton. Where is the playing time?

They are loaded at forward with Siakam, Scottie Barnes, Anunoby. No minutes there. They were playin small with Siakam at center earlier in the season but that was before getting Poeltl. They also have Achiuwa at backup center. So less small ball now than before. Plus they have Thad Young and Otto Porter as other frontcourt players.

VanVleet and Gary Trent Jr start at guard. Barton is not a PG so his minutes are restricted to backing up Trent Jr. That is 15mpg.

Barton could have gotten a chance at a better role elsewhere. Somewhere where there was minutes both at backup SG and backup SF. Toronto is not a good home for him.

He will be the primary backup at SG and can play some mins at SF as well. Where do you think he would have gotten a better role on a team that’s also (likely) going to be in the playoffs?

[hpantazo]

Shams Charania
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The Bulls have waived Goran Dragic.

I would love Dragic as a 3rd string PG on this team. Savy vet who can score when needed, kind of like a PG version of Blake Griffin.

[Phantom255x]

Yeah Hornets make the most sense for Simmons. I also think the Nets could use Hayward and if he stays healthy, can become a nice wing option for them, while having one max spot left to potentially complete that roster along with DFS, Bridges, Claxton, etc.

[Who]

I don't see how they trade Ben Simmons. He needs to be playing and playing well to rebuild his value. He can't do that if you shut him down. Heck, you can't do that if you bench him and restrict his playing time.

Why give up assets to move him?

Just buy him out and keep your draft picks.

[Who]

I don't like Toronto for Barton. Where is the playing time?

They are loaded at forward with Siakam, Scottie Barnes, Anunoby. No minutes there. They were playin small with Siakam at center earlier in the season but that was before getting Poeltl. They also have Achiuwa at backup center. So less small ball now than before. Plus they have Thad Young and Otto Porter as other frontcourt players.

VanVleet and Gary Trent Jr start at guard. Barton is not a PG so his minutes are restricted to backing up Trent Jr. That is 15mpg.

Barton could have gotten a chance at a better role elsewhere. Somewhere where there was minutes both at backup SG and backup SF. Toronto is not a good home for him.

He will be the primary backup at SG and can play some mins at SF as well. Where do you think he would have gotten a better role on a team that’s also (likely) going to be in the playoffs?

I thought Philly would have been great for him.

[Goldstar88]

I don't like Toronto for Barton. Where is the playing time?

They are loaded at forward with Siakam, Scottie Barnes, Anunoby. No minutes there. They were playin small with Siakam at center earlier in the season but that was before getting Poeltl. They also have Achiuwa at backup center. So less small ball now than before. Plus they have Thad Young and Otto Porter as other frontcourt players.

VanVleet and Gary Trent Jr start at guard. Barton is not a PG so his minutes are restricted to backing up Trent Jr. That is 15mpg.

Barton could have gotten a chance at a better role elsewhere. Somewhere where there was minutes both at backup SG and backup SF. Toronto is not a good home for him.

He will be the primary backup at SG and can play some mins at SF as well. Where do you think he would have gotten a better role on a team that’s also (likely) going to be in the playoffs?

I thought Philly would have been great for him.

I just don’t see where the minutes would come from. They have Milton, Maxey and McDaniels off the bench. They absorb virtually all the non starter minutes at PG, SG, SF.