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Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #1290 on: January 16, 2023, 12:37:50 PM »

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Wouldn’t be referring to Siakam, would he? Hmmm

CJ McCollum on Raptors: I think in terms of what they need or what they’re lacking, something’s gonna happen – I don’t know what. There’s rumblings about certain players on the team not being happy and due to tampering, I can’t speak to that but I think they’re gonna move someone.

Where could he end up?

I’m thinking Lakers, Mavs, Hawks, Heat.
depends what they want I think.  I mean I could see a team like the Thunder making a real play for Siakam as they have a lot of picks, aren't terrible (so likely aren't in the high pick sweepstakes), and could use a PF like Siakam.  They'd have to include Dort for salary purposes, but otherwise could keep their core in tact, while still providing young players and draft picks to Toronto.  The Thunder also have the Favors TPE at 10.1 million so they could take back someone like Thad Young into that providing more cap relief and giving the Raptors a TPE themselves.

It would be a bold move by the Thunder to do something like that, but it wouldn't be a totally crazy move either. 
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Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #1291 on: January 16, 2023, 12:42:49 PM »

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Wouldn’t be referring to Siakam, would he? Hmmm

CJ McCollum on Raptors: I think in terms of what they need or what they’re lacking, something’s gonna happen – I don’t know what. There’s rumblings about certain players on the team not being happy and due to tampering, I can’t speak to that but I think they’re gonna move someone.

Where could he end up?

I’m thinking Lakers, Mavs, Hawks, Heat.

What in the world do the Lakers realistically have to give for a player of Siakam's caliber besides Anthony Davis or Lebron?

Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #1292 on: January 16, 2023, 12:50:50 PM »

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Wouldn’t be referring to Siakam, would he? Hmmm

CJ McCollum on Raptors: I think in terms of what they need or what they’re lacking, something’s gonna happen – I don’t know what. There’s rumblings about certain players on the team not being happy and due to tampering, I can’t speak to that but I think they’re gonna move someone.

Where could he end up?

I’m thinking Lakers, Mavs, Hawks, Heat.

What in the world do the Lakers realistically have to give for a player of Siakam's caliber besides Anthony Davis or Lebron?
Yeah, the 2 picks have value, but not that much value.  Best I could come up with was Westbrook, 27, 29 for Siakam, Young, Porter, and Birch.  That would at least clear a bunch of cap space next year for the Raptors.  That just doesn't seem like it would be anywhere near enough for Siakam.
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Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #1293 on: January 16, 2023, 12:58:23 PM »

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Best I could come up for Siakam for Boston is a multiple trade scenario


Siakam

for

White, Gallinari, Grant, Jackson, $$ (to cut Jackson), 25 1st (top 4), 27 1st (lotto)


2nd trade

Birch

for

2023 2nd (fit into Hernangomez TPE)

So post trade (with 3 open spots)

Guards - Smart, Brogdon, Pritchard
Wings - Tatum, Brown, Siakam, Hauser
Bigs - Rob, Horford, Birch, Griffin, Kornet

Then use the Richardson TPE to add someone in the 5.5 million range and still have the 2 spots for buy outs or veteran minimum type players.
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Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #1294 on: January 16, 2023, 01:08:13 PM »

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Wouldn’t be referring to Siakam, would he? Hmmm

CJ McCollum on Raptors: I think in terms of what they need or what they’re lacking, something’s gonna happen – I don’t know what. There’s rumblings about certain players on the team not being happy and due to tampering, I can’t speak to that but I think they’re gonna move someone.

Where could he end up?

I’m thinking Lakers, Mavs, Hawks, Heat.

What in the world do the Lakers realistically have to give for a player of Siakam's caliber besides Anthony Davis or Lebron?

2 first rounders. Siakam will be 29 in a few months and is a FA after next year. He’s a good, not great player.
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Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #1295 on: January 16, 2023, 01:14:39 PM »

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Wouldn’t be referring to Siakam, would he? Hmmm

CJ McCollum on Raptors: I think in terms of what they need or what they’re lacking, something’s gonna happen – I don’t know what. There’s rumblings about certain players on the team not being happy and due to tampering, I can’t speak to that but I think they’re gonna move someone.

Where could he end up?

I’m thinking Lakers, Mavs, Hawks, Heat.

What in the world do the Lakers realistically have to give for a player of Siakam's caliber besides Anthony Davis or Lebron?

2 first rounders. Siakam will be 29 in a few months and is a FA after next year. He’s a good, not great player.

What first rounders do LAL even have at this point? I thought the next few were already pick swaps, but  idk maybe I'm wrong
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Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #1296 on: January 16, 2023, 01:19:46 PM »

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Wouldn’t be referring to Siakam, would he? Hmmm

CJ McCollum on Raptors: I think in terms of what they need or what they’re lacking, something’s gonna happen – I don’t know what. There’s rumblings about certain players on the team not being happy and due to tampering, I can’t speak to that but I think they’re gonna move someone.

Where could he end up?

I’m thinking Lakers, Mavs, Hawks, Heat.

What in the world do the Lakers realistically have to give for a player of Siakam's caliber besides Anthony Davis or Lebron?

The trade I’d be worried about the Lakers making is Westbrook, Walker & every pick and pick swap possible for Beal & Kuzma.

Bryant
Davis
James
Beal
Beverley

Kuzma, Schroder, Reaves, Nunn

IF everyone is healthy, that’s a contender.
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Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #1297 on: January 16, 2023, 01:28:36 PM »

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It seems strange to me that CJ McCollum would say something like this about another team.  I don't doubt that players talk and that he could have heard directly that someone isn't happy but he has no insight whatsoever as to whether the team is going to move someone.  That he "thinks they're gonna move someone" is just pure speculation that again, I am surprised that he would say this.

Anyway, that said, Siakam may well get moved (my speculation is no less than McCollum's speculation).  How about Siakam for John Collins (and something to match salaries)?  Toronto gets a few years younger with Collins.  Both players get changes of scenery.  There was a time when John Collins was viewed nearly as highly as Siakam.


Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #1298 on: January 16, 2023, 01:37:39 PM »

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Wouldn’t be referring to Siakam, would he? Hmmm

CJ McCollum on Raptors: I think in terms of what they need or what they’re lacking, something’s gonna happen – I don’t know what. There’s rumblings about certain players on the team not being happy and due to tampering, I can’t speak to that but I think they’re gonna move someone.

Where could he end up?

I’m thinking Lakers, Mavs, Hawks, Heat.

What in the world do the Lakers realistically have to give for a player of Siakam's caliber besides Anthony Davis or Lebron?

2 first rounders. Siakam will be 29 in a few months and is a FA after next year. He’s a good, not great player.

What first rounders do LAL even have at this point? I thought the next few were already pick swaps, but  idk maybe I'm wrong

Pretty sure the Pel’s have 1 more of the Lakers picks and then a swap option over the next few years and then after that, the LAL own their picks outright.
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Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #1299 on: January 16, 2023, 01:53:24 PM »

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Wouldn’t be referring to Siakam, would he? Hmmm

CJ McCollum on Raptors: I think in terms of what they need or what they’re lacking, something’s gonna happen – I don’t know what. There’s rumblings about certain players on the team not being happy and due to tampering, I can’t speak to that but I think they’re gonna move someone.

Where could he end up?

I’m thinking Lakers, Mavs, Hawks, Heat.

What in the world do the Lakers realistically have to give for a player of Siakam's caliber besides Anthony Davis or Lebron?

2 first rounders. Siakam will be 29 in a few months and is a FA after next year. He’s a good, not great player.

What first rounders do LAL even have at this point? I thought the next few were already pick swaps, but  idk maybe I'm wrong

Their first-rounder situation isn't actually that bad, it's just that they have essentially nothing of trade value other than picks.

Pelicans have swap rights this year and then can choose to have the Lakers first outright in either 24 or 25. Otherwise they have all their firsts, which translates to the Lakers being able to trade two firsts outright and swap rights in between.

Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #1300 on: January 16, 2023, 02:11:05 PM »

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Wouldn’t be referring to Siakam, would he? Hmmm

CJ McCollum on Raptors: I think in terms of what they need or what they’re lacking, something’s gonna happen – I don’t know what. There’s rumblings about certain players on the team not being happy and due to tampering, I can’t speak to that but I think they’re gonna move someone.

Where could he end up?

I’m thinking Lakers, Mavs, Hawks, Heat.

What in the world do the Lakers realistically have to give for a player of Siakam's caliber besides Anthony Davis or Lebron?

2 first rounders. Siakam will be 29 in a few months and is a FA after next year. He’s a good, not great player.

What first rounders do LAL even have at this point? I thought the next few were already pick swaps, but  idk maybe I'm wrong

Their first-rounder situation isn't actually that bad, it's just that they have essentially nothing of trade value other than picks.

Pelicans have swap rights this year and then can choose to have the Lakers first outright in either 24 or 25. Otherwise they have all their firsts, which translates to the Lakers being able to trade two firsts outright and swap rights in between.

Right now The lakers can only trade their picks in 27 and 29 because of the pick swaps. Not all gms really want to trade for pics that far out, especially those with less job security.

Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #1301 on: January 16, 2023, 02:14:14 PM »

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Wouldn’t be referring to Siakam, would he? Hmmm

CJ McCollum on Raptors: I think in terms of what they need or what they’re lacking, something’s gonna happen – I don’t know what. There’s rumblings about certain players on the team not being happy and due to tampering, I can’t speak to that but I think they’re gonna move someone.

Where could he end up?

I’m thinking Lakers, Mavs, Hawks, Heat.

What in the world do the Lakers realistically have to give for a player of Siakam's caliber besides Anthony Davis or Lebron?

The trade I’d be worried about the Lakers making is Westbrook, Walker & every pick and pick swap possible for Beal & Kuzma.

Bryant
Davis
James
Beal
Beverley

Kuzma, Schroder, Reaves, Nunn

IF everyone is healthy, that’s a contender.

Not even lakers fans propose this kind of thing with a straight face.

Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #1302 on: January 16, 2023, 02:19:47 PM »

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Wouldn’t be referring to Siakam, would he? Hmmm

CJ McCollum on Raptors: I think in terms of what they need or what they’re lacking, something’s gonna happen – I don’t know what. There’s rumblings about certain players on the team not being happy and due to tampering, I can’t speak to that but I think they’re gonna move someone.

Where could he end up?

I’m thinking Lakers, Mavs, Hawks, Heat.

What in the world do the Lakers realistically have to give for a player of Siakam's caliber besides Anthony Davis or Lebron?

The trade I’d be worried about the Lakers making is Westbrook, Walker & every pick and pick swap possible for Beal & Kuzma.

Bryant
Davis
James
Beal
Beverley

Kuzma, Schroder, Reaves, Nunn

IF everyone is healthy, that’s a contender.

Not even lakers fans propose this kind of thing with a straight face.

Yeah, I am not going to lose any sleep worrying that this trade would happen.

Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #1303 on: January 16, 2023, 02:26:25 PM »

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Wouldn’t be referring to Siakam, would he? Hmmm

CJ McCollum on Raptors: I think in terms of what they need or what they’re lacking, something’s gonna happen – I don’t know what. There’s rumblings about certain players on the team not being happy and due to tampering, I can’t speak to that but I think they’re gonna move someone.

Where could he end up?

I’m thinking Lakers, Mavs, Hawks, Heat.

What in the world do the Lakers realistically have to give for a player of Siakam's caliber besides Anthony Davis or Lebron?

The trade I’d be worried about the Lakers making is Westbrook, Walker & every pick and pick swap possible for Beal & Kuzma.

Bryant
Davis
James
Beal
Beverley

Kuzma, Schroder, Reaves, Nunn

IF everyone is healthy, that’s a contender.

Not even lakers fans propose this kind of thing with a straight face.

Beal’s contract is atrocious, while being injury prone AND he has a no trade clause, his value is extremely decreased.

Kuzma has a player option in the offseason, which he will certainly op-out. Trading for him is just a 6 month rental.
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Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #1304 on: January 16, 2023, 02:33:58 PM »

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Wouldn’t be referring to Siakam, would he? Hmmm

CJ McCollum on Raptors: I think in terms of what they need or what they’re lacking, something’s gonna happen – I don’t know what. There’s rumblings about certain players on the team not being happy and due to tampering, I can’t speak to that but I think they’re gonna move someone.

Where could he end up?

I’m thinking Lakers, Mavs, Hawks, Heat.

What in the world do the Lakers realistically have to give for a player of Siakam's caliber besides Anthony Davis or Lebron?

The trade I’d be worried about the Lakers making is Westbrook, Walker & every pick and pick swap possible for Beal & Kuzma.

Bryant
Davis
James
Beal
Beverley

Kuzma, Schroder, Reaves, Nunn

IF everyone is healthy, that’s a contender.

Not even lakers fans propose this kind of thing with a straight face.

That Beal contract is awful, though. He’s about to turn 30 and is always in and out of the lineup. His numbers are way down across the board and he’s not shooting the ball well. Washington isn’t going anywhere and I wouldn’t be surprised if they try to get off that deal. Glad he didn’t make his way to the C’s.
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