If the Lakers did make Davis available (and he was willing to come here), what would you be willing to give up for him?
Horford + Gallo + two #1s.
The Lakers wouldn't do that.
I don’t even know if I’d do that. AD misses so many games and it’s just going to get worse as he will be turning 30 soon. Last year he played in 40 games. The season before only 36 games. So a max player that’s likely going to miss half the season and he’s already banged up this year. Pass.
He does, but Tatum, Brown, and Davis + guys like Smart, Brogdon. The team would be the biggest favorite since Durant was in San Francisco.
Sure, but championships aren’t won on paper. Based on past history, Davis is more than likely going to be injured for a good portion of the season. Same reason I don’t want Hayward back, these guys are just not reliable.
And you think someone like Horford or Williams won't be?
Horford played in 69 games last year, Rob played 61. Both have played more games than AD has over the last two years. They also cost significantly less than Davis does, giving the team flexibility to make moves if needed. I’d rather have Al and Rob.
Rob is missing at least the first 3 months of the year. Horford has already missed a game and he isn't hurt. They collectively make 700k less than Davis (and if Rob hits all his incentives they'd actually make more than Davis, thought a number of Rob's incentives are unlikely, especially with him hurt).
Horford is giving Boston 75% of the games at 7.7 points, 5 rebounds. There is no Rob until early 2023 at the earliest. They make over 37 million dollars together. Add in Gallo, and Boston's 3 main big men are costing Boston 44 million dollars producing less than 8 ppg and 5 rpg in 3 of 12 man games played, and you are worried about Davis missing games. I just don't get it.
To Roy's point I don't think LA would do something like Horford, Rob, and draft picks for Davis, but I guarantee, if that trade could be made, it would be done already.
Regarding Rob, you don’t know that he’s missing at least 3 months. In fact Brad Stevens was asked on 98.5 The Sports Hub’s “Toucher & Rich” if he was worried about Williams’ return being further pushed back and he responded:
“No one has told me that it got moved back. So, no,” Stevens responded.
Also, I never said that Al and Rob collectively made more or less than Davis. I said that they both make less than Davis, which is accurate. So if you lose Rob, as is the case currently, you still have Al. When you trade for AD and he misses half the season, who are you putting on the court now, Luke Kornet? It’s also a lot easier to trade Al or Rob if they are injured vs Davis with his $40M/year contract. You want to trade away all the C’s depth, plus future assets for a a max player that misses half the season every year and then bet on him being healthy come playoff time? That I don’t get…
You said significantly less. I bolded it in case you forgot what you wrote.
Al and Rob are going to miss more than half the season combined, and make essentially what Davis does. Davis, however, produces better and nearly does combined (let alone whatever you get from the other spot) on the floor.
Yeah, I'd absolutely trade Horford, Rob, and some draft picks for Davis and wouldn't give a second thought, and more importantly I think Stevens would do that. The Lakers would never do that though, so it is a moot point.
Right, Rob and Al both have salaries that are lower than AD’s. He’s receiving a max salary, they are not making that kind of money. Now you are saying that Al and Rob (collectively) are going to miss more than half the season? Do you have a crystal ball or…
I don’t think Stevens would make that trade, since he knows this is a real NBA team that just made it to the finals and not one played on NBA2K by fans.
Rob isn't going to play till January at the earliest (at least by most every account). When he comes back, he isn't going to play every game the rest of the season either. Al isn't playing back to backs and will also miss other games just as he has done basically every year (he has been missing at least 12 games a year since he in Boston the first time). So yeah, between the 164 games between them, I think they play right around 82.
Al + Rob make in base salary $37,214,287. Rob has likely incentives of 223,215 and unlikely incentives of 1,116,072 (according to spotrac). Adding in the likely incentives, takes their combined salary to $37,437,502. Anthony Davis makes $37,980,720. In other words, they basically make the same amount of money. Yes, Rob and Al make less, but it isn't SIGNIFICANTLY and they make essentially a max contract.