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Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #990 on: December 15, 2022, 06:12:10 AM »

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Woj said Lonzo Ball May be out for the season..hopefully he can return next season & not career ending type of injury
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Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #991 on: December 15, 2022, 06:13:51 AM »

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Curry having MRI on his shoulder..Warriors not playing players on a regular basis & just trying to save all of them for a playoff run..
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Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #992 on: December 15, 2022, 06:18:52 AM »

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Curry having MRI on his shoulder..Warriors not playing players on a regular basis & just trying to save all of them for a playoff run..

gonna be hard. As of right now they are a half game away from being out of playins and be eliminated.

Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #993 on: December 15, 2022, 08:39:32 AM »

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Comparing MLB's free agency to the NBA, it's amazing that the league got players to agree to 5 year max contracts, with a max of four years if signing with a new team.  I mean, we just saw a 13 year, fully guaranteed deal for Carlos Correa.  13 years?!  Can you imagine if NBA teams were left to their own discretion to sign free agents?  How many years would we have offered Gordon Hayward or Kemba Walker?


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Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #994 on: December 15, 2022, 09:39:15 AM »

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Woj said Lonzo Ball May be out for the season.  hopefully he can return next season & not career ending type of injury

With how most players come back on schedule from knee injuries/surgeries, you tend to forget how much uncertainty there really is in these things.  This makes me think of RWill.  It is a similar thing.  They thought he would be ready to start preseason camp.  Then not so fast, another surgery.  Is it just "playing through pain" or is playing causing more damage?

I wonder, if Ball's knee is not right by Feb, what makes them think it is going to be any better in say August without more surgery?

You just never know with these things.

Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #995 on: December 15, 2022, 09:48:31 AM »

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Comparing MLB's free agency to the NBA, it's amazing that the league got players to agree to 5 year max contracts, with a max of four years if signing with a new team.  I mean, we just saw a 13 year, fully guaranteed deal for Carlos Correa.  13 years?!  Can you imagine if NBA teams were left to their own discretion to sign free agents?  How many years would we have offered Gordon Hayward or Kemba Walker?
10 year $400 million for JT?
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Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #996 on: December 15, 2022, 09:48:37 AM »

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Woj said Lonzo Ball May be out for the season.  hopefully he can return next season & not career ending type of injury

With how most players come back on schedule from knee injuries/surgeries, you tend to forget how much uncertainty there really is in these things.  This makes me think of RWill.  It is a similar thing.  They thought he would be ready to start preseason camp.  Then not so fast, another surgery.  Is it just "playing through pain" or is playing causing more damage?

I wonder, if Ball's knee is not right by Feb, what makes them think it is going to be any better in say August without more surgery?

You just never know with these things.

Yeah, it's within the realm of possibilities that Ball is never "right" again.  He went out last year with a bone bruise, which is generally considered a minor injury.  Then, it was diagnosed as a meniscus injury.  He got surgery done, and had a 6 to 8 week recovery timeline.  Then, he had a second surgery, which had a 6 - 8 week recovery.  Apparently, he's still a long way from recovery, as he's in a significant amount of pain and can't run or jump.

People act like meniscus is no big deal.  Maybe if we just called it "knee cushioning" we'd have a better sense of the risks involved.


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« Reply #997 on: December 15, 2022, 09:51:13 AM »

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Comparing MLB's free agency to the NBA, it's amazing that the league got players to agree to 5 year max contracts, with a max of four years if signing with a new team.  I mean, we just saw a 13 year, fully guaranteed deal for Carlos Correa.  13 years?!  Can you imagine if NBA teams were left to their own discretion to sign free agents?  How many years would we have offered Gordon Hayward or Kemba Walker?

I think the baseball version of this in not sustainable.  Position players in baseball are less susceptible to injury than say basketball or football players but even with that, paying players into their 40s is not going to end up being good for the game.  The players may feel like they are "winning" but if this hurts teams and the game overall in the long run, players will not win in the end.

Can you imagine what contract you would have to give Brown or Tatum?  15 years?  Giannis might get 20 years.

Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #998 on: December 15, 2022, 09:51:34 AM »

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Comparing MLB's free agency to the NBA, it's amazing that the league got players to agree to 5 year max contracts, with a max of four years if signing with a new team.  I mean, we just saw a 13 year, fully guaranteed deal for Carlos Correa.  13 years?!  Can you imagine if NBA teams were left to their own discretion to sign free agents?  How many years would we have offered Gordon Hayward or Kemba Walker?
10 year $400 million for JT?

He'd blow by that easily, I think.  Jaylen is eligible for 5 years, $290 if he makes All-NBA.  So, for the true, young superstars, I think NBA owners would go crazy if there wasn't a limit on years.  Even if we kept the "max", JT would probably be eligible for like 10 years, $650 million, all guaranteed.  Can you imagine?


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Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #999 on: December 15, 2022, 09:59:00 AM »

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Comparing MLB's free agency to the NBA, it's amazing that the league got players to agree to 5 year max contracts, with a max of four years if signing with a new team.  I mean, we just saw a 13 year, fully guaranteed deal for Carlos Correa.  13 years?!  Can you imagine if NBA teams were left to their own discretion to sign free agents?  How many years would we have offered Gordon Hayward or Kemba Walker?

I think the baseball version of this in not sustainable.  Position players in baseball are less susceptible to injury than say basketball or football players but even with that, paying players into their 40s is not going to end up being good for the game.  The players may feel like they are "winning" but if this hurts teams and the game overall in the long run, players will not win in the end.

Can you imagine what contract you would have to give Brown or Tatum?  15 years?  Giannis might get 20 years.

Agreed.  MLB desperately needs to revise its CBA.  I mean, Devers could command 12 years, $480 million in the open market.  How does a team recover from that if there's a serious injury shortly into the contract?  It's obviously great for the players, and I respect that most of them played for under-market deals their first six years.  But, for the sustainability of the sport, there need to be changes.  Give players a crack at free agency after four years, but limit contracts to six.

I worry about the "rich" teams in basketball outspending everybody, but overall the NBA seems very healthy.  I'd like to see teams be able to use an "amnesty" provision to waive a player who would no longer count against the cap (but who would still have to be paid), so that teams can recover from their mistakes more quickly.  But, just about every bad deal is moveable to some degree, and teams can't decimate their draft picks, so in theory every team can become competitive with smart management.


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Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #1000 on: December 15, 2022, 10:02:57 AM »

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The length of the baseball contracts are ridiculous.  They need to limit that. 

My suggestion is to limit contracts to maybe 5 years and on the other end, allow players to become free agents after 5 years rather than 6.  I wonder which side would object to that.  I’m guessing the owners.

Currently, players are often not earning the money they deserve from both directions.

Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #1001 on: December 15, 2022, 08:48:15 PM »

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If Giannis couldn't travel it would limit his offensive game.

Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #1002 on: December 15, 2022, 08:59:07 PM »

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If Giannis couldn't travel it would limit his offensive game.

Great player, but I really don’t like watching him play. Nice to see that the Grizz are putting a beat down on the Bucks right now.
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Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #1003 on: December 15, 2022, 09:12:33 PM »

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If Giannis couldn't travel it would limit his offensive game.

Great player, but I really don’t like watching him play. Nice to see that the Grizz are putting a beat down on the Bucks right now.

What is going on w the Bucks?! Losing to Houston, now this?

Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #1004 on: December 15, 2022, 09:13:15 PM »

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If Giannis couldn't travel it would limit his offensive game.

Great player, but I really don’t like watching him play. Nice to see that the Grizz are putting a beat down on the Bucks right now.

The Bucks look like a clunky 70s team and the Grizz just run run run.... I guess the Bucks really miss Holiday.