Udoka Facing Suspension/Udoka to Nets??

[Birdman]

He might step down as head coach?? Geez that would be devastating

[Roy H.]

Just seeing this. How do we know it’s an affair? Any sources or just opinions?

Shams.  Consensual relationship with a staff member that violated team policy.

The term consensual seems to be at the crux of this. Ime is the head coach. Beyond the owner/GM, what staff member could potentially be on Ime’s level or higher?

In think they're using consensual to mean not physically coerced, as opposed to being based upon power differentials.  I think that the implication is that this was probably a subordinate somewhere in the organization.  People are throwing out names of other members of the front office / coaching staff, but my reading is much more broad.  Personal assistants, secretaries, trainers, receptionists... 

I know that at the biggest organization that I worked for, "lateral" relationships were okay, so long as management was notified.  If one party got promoted, then they were immediately walled off from working with the other party.  Subordinate relationships were otherwise strictly forbidden.  In other words, attorneys should staff far, far away from the secretaries and paralegals.  It didn't matter who initiated it, it was 100% off-base.

[MarcusSmartFanClub]

Yeah, not a good look for Ime.

How can they assure that Ime doesn’t contact players/staff during a suspended season? If Ime cheats on his wife with someone he’s clearly not allowed to have a relationship with, how do they trust him to not have any communication with the team?

I think this is going to have a negligible effect on the upcoming season, as I expect Udoka will be in constant communication. Otherwise, they need to fire him, right?

[Celtics2021]

Just seeing this. How do we know it’s an affair? Any sources or just opinions?

Shams.  Consensual relationship with a staff member that violated team policy.

The term consensual seems to be at the crux of this. Ime is the head coach. Beyond the owner/GM, what staff member could potentially be on Ime’s level or higher?

In think they're using consensual to mean not physically coerced, as opposed to being based upon power differentials.  I think that the implication is that this was probably a subordinate somewhere in the organization.  People are throwing out names of other members of the front office / coaching staff, but my reading is much more broad.  Personal assistants, secretaries, trainers, receptionists... 

I know that at the biggest organization that I worked for, "lateral" relationships were okay, so long as management was notified.  If one party got promoted, then they were immediately walled off from working with the other party.  Subordinate relationships were otherwise strictly forbidden.  In other words, attorneys should staff far, far away from the secretaries and paralegals.  It didn't matter who initiated it, it was 100% off-base.

Yeah, that’s my interpretation too, and the power dynamic is exactly why organizations have rules prohibiting such relationships.  Pending his punishment, I do give the Celtics credit for not sweeping this under the rug, and instead following their own policies.  The likelihood that Udoka is the only coach in the NBA to have done this is approaching zero.

[Jvalin]

If Celtics has a rule that u can’t have a relationship with a co-worker & every knows the rules, then he have to accept the consequences..it’s his fault then

If the Celtics have such a rule, it's a stupid rule. It's one thing to discourage intimate relationships between employees, it's another thing to ban them. We are not in the kindergarten. Ime and his lover are adults. They can do whatever they want in their personal life as long as they don't harm anybody. The C's are way out of line here. They have no right to control the personal life of their empoyees.

[terra haute]

Apparently the Lakers had no such policy when Phil and Jeannie were dating

[Celtics2021]

If Celtics has a rule that u can’t have a relationship with a co-worker & every knows the rules, then he have to accept the consequences..it’s his fault then

If the Celtics have such a rule, it's a stupid rule. It's one thing to discourage intimate relationships between employees, it's another thing to ban them. We are not in the kindergarten. Ime and his lover are adults. They can do whatever they want in their personal life as long as they don't harm anybody. The C's are way out of line here. They have no right to control the personal life of their empoyees.

It’s absolutely not a stupid rule, and it’s one that every organization should have, and most of a reasonable size do have, at least in this country.  They are not consistently applied, but that’s a different problem.

[No Nickname]

Just seeing this. How do we know it’s an affair? Any sources or just opinions?

Shams.  Consensual relationship with a staff member that violated team policy.

The term consensual seems to be at the crux of this. Ime is the head coach. Beyond the owner/GM, what staff member could potentially be on Ime’s level or higher?

In think they're using consensual to mean not physically coerced, as opposed to being based upon power differentials.  I think that the implication is that this was probably a subordinate somewhere in the organization.  People are throwing out names of other members of the front office / coaching staff, but my reading is much more broad.  Personal assistants, secretaries, trainers, receptionists... 

I know that at the biggest organization that I worked for, "lateral" relationships were okay, so long as management was notified.  If one party got promoted, then they were immediately walled off from working with the other party.  Subordinate relationships were otherwise strictly forbidden.  In other words, attorneys should staff far, far away from the secretaries and paralegals.  It didn't matter who initiated it, it was 100% off-base.

Yeah, that’s my interpretation too, and the power dynamic is exactly why organizations have rules prohibiting such relationships.  Pending his punishment, I do give the Celtics credit for not sweeping this under the rug, and instead following their own policies.  The likelihood that Udoka is the only coach in the NBA to have done this is approaching zero.

A former female co-worker of mine was at a corporate event about 20 years ago and met Pat Riley. After 15 minutes he asked her to come up to his hotel room.

She said he was hammered and kept trying to put his key card in her hands, but she refused. 

[Donoghus]

Just seeing this. How do we know it’s an affair? Any sources or just opinions?

Shams.  Consensual relationship with a staff member that violated team policy.

The term consensual seems to be at the crux of this. Ime is the head coach. Beyond the owner/GM, what staff member could potentially be on Ime’s level or higher?

In think they're using consensual to mean not physically coerced, as opposed to being based upon power differentials.  I think that the implication is that this was probably a subordinate somewhere in the organization.  People are throwing out names of other members of the front office / coaching staff, but my reading is much more broad.  Personal assistants, secretaries, trainers, receptionists... 

I know that at the biggest organization that I worked for, "lateral" relationships were okay, so long as management was notified.  If one party got promoted, then they were immediately walled off from working with the other party.  Subordinate relationships were otherwise strictly forbidden.  In other words, attorneys should staff far, far away from the secretaries and paralegals.  It didn't matter who initiated it, it was 100% off-base.

Yeah, that’s my interpretation too, and the power dynamic is exactly why organizations have rules prohibiting such relationships.  Pending his punishment, I do give the Celtics credit for not sweeping this under the rug, and instead following their own policies.  The likelihood that Udoka is the only coach in the NBA to have done this is approaching zero.

A former female co-worker of mine was at a corporate event about 20 years ago and met Pat Riley. After 15 minutes he asked her to come up to his hotel room.

She said he was hammered and kept trying to put his key card in her hands, but she refused.

That doesn't surprise me one bit.

[MarcusSmartFanClub]

Apparently the Lakers had no such policy when Phil and Jeannie were dating

Good point. I kinda think Jeannie Buss is gross like her dad. She’s also now dating Jay Mohr, widely known as a Richard head.

I love Ime and what he is done for the Celtics. I do think it’s creepy for him to have a private relationship with a staffer. A handsome guy like that could get some side action anywhere, but he chose to poop in his own backyard because it was easier and he had some power. He thought he could get away with it. Similar dynamics to Bill Clinton. There’s a power imbalance there, and it’s creepy.

[Kernewek]

If Celtics has a rule that u can’t have a relationship with a co-worker & every knows the rules, then he have to accept the consequences..it’s his fault then

If the Celtics have such a rule, it's a stupid rule. It's one thing to discourage intimate relationships between employees, it's another thing to ban them. We are not in the kindergarten. Ime and his lover are adults. They can do whatever they want in their personal life as long as they don't harm anybody. The C's are way out of line here. They have no right to control the personal life of their empoyees.

It’s absolutely not a stupid rule, and it’s one that every organization should have, and most of a reasonable size do have, at least in this country.  They are not consistently applied, but that’s a different problem.

Yeah this is a CYA move from a legal/HR perspective, morals don’t have much/anything to do with it.

[Bobshot]

I too think this is stupid. It's a team rule--there is nothing I read about the League.

You hire lots of women in sports organizations these days, you expect some fraternization.
In fact, it's healthy if its consensual. And it's very common.

Wick made headlines by saying the team was "overrated" --by the media, I should add.
Now more headlines about penalizing their coach for a private relationship.

Combined with the Gallo and Robert Williams mistakes, the management is off to a rough start this season.

The Celtics haters in the media are laughing.

[bdm860]

It probably doesn’t help Ime’s case that this comes on the heels of the Sarver report.

I wonder if this is the whole reason for it.

Like if no Sarver report, is there a chance the C's just sweep it under the rug (not saying they let it go on, but maybe they don't publicly flog him for it)?

[celticinorlando]

Other than Brogdan this off-season has been a disaster.

[Celtics2021]

Other than Brogdan this off-season has been a disaster.

Seriously, the off-season should have stopped on July 2nd.