Is everyone ready for the massive overreaction from game 1?

[Who]

I think Boston has another gear that they can ratch things up to physically. Suddenly Rob and Al are stuffing shots left and right, we're clogging every passing lane, snatching every loose ball.

Generating easy looks on the break.

Golden State does not have this same gear anymore. They are wily, they are skilled, but when we get going it is like a bunch of rampaging tigers out there.

All the great teams have this extra gear. The Russell Celtics were famous for it. The Showtime Lakers. The Jordan Bulls, the LeBron Heat. Golden State used to have it. It's hard to win without it.

I think Draymond Green is the only guy on the team who had that extra gear both now and in years past ... but they've worn him down over the years by over-relying on him to be the team's sole energizer.

The only guy capable of firing up the team with toughness and hustle, pushing the pace with his ball-handling, getting extra possessions for his team with rebounds and forcing turnovers, being aggressive and driving to the hoop, getting easy shots for others.

Steph gives you a little but only when his shot is falling and he is in a zone. If he isn't in a zone, he gives you nothing in terms of having that extra gear. Finding a way to push through when things aren't going well or when the other team increases their intensity or physicality. Klay gives you even less. Never Wiggins.

It is has always been Draymond. He is the heart and soul of that team.

[jpotter33]

We played one good quarter.  That one quarter was really really good, historically good, but still just one quarter.  Miami had some good quarters that led to wins early in the series too.

I know the stats say that GSW are a better defensive team than MIA and MIL but I don't see it.  They are well coached defensively and execute their doubles and rotations at a very high level.  They are quick and athletic but lack the size and strength of MIA and MIL.  That isn't to say they are a bad defensive team or that defense is a weakness.  I see solid defense with good effort, just not MIL or MIA defense.

But they can shoot.  So I predict big runs, big swings.  They may get hot and blow us out in the next game.  Both teams take tons of 3s.  That means highly variable scoring.   Hit a couple, miss 5, hit couple more.  So really hard to sweep.  Right now, it is like a no-hitter in the 3rd inning or something.  Talk to me when the no-hit game is still going in the 8th inning.

We played okay in the second quarter as well, didn't we?  We outscored then 28-22, which is a very good quarter.

Even in the first we put up 28 points, but gave up an unacceptable 32.

If the Warriors (Draymond) and the media want to run with the narrative of "the Celtics only played well one quarter", I'll take it.  I just don't think it's true.  We beat them in the first half, and we beat them in the 4th.  We just had a lousy third quarter, as has often been the case.

I do agree that this series is susceptible to huge swings, even moreso than the Miami series.

It wasn't even the whole 3rd quarter.  It was 60-61 with 9:43 left in the 3rd.  They increased the lead by 14 more points at 2:10, but Boston closed the 15 point deficit to 12 at the end of the quarter.  So that 7.5 minute stretch was really bad, but the other 4.5 minutes of the 3rd it was even play.

I agree with all of this but if we had played in the 4th like we did in the 2nd, and won a close game, would there be people talking about a sweep (well, actually, I suppose there probably would)?  That I guess is my point.  The fourth quarter was its own thing but the rest of the game was just the expected back and forth between two evenly matched teams that take a lot of 3s.  One team is more hot one quarter, the other team the next.  The play in those quarters says a tough seven game series, not anything close to a sweep.  At least that is what I saw.

I have said all along that I did not think GSW are any better than MIL or MIA.  What concerned me from the previous series is that we had a pattern of playing well, then regressing.  Fighting hard when we had to, then playing tentative and letting MIL or MIA take control.  Not unexpected for a young team that is deeper in the playoffs than anyone expected at the start of the season.  If that pattern continues against GSW or is amplified due to the pressure of the finals, we give them an opportunity and they are a team that could take advantage of it more than MIL or MIA did.  I think Celtics as a team are good enough to play better/more consistently than we did the last couple of rounds.  Further, I think we need to.

well I picked Boston in 5 before the series started, so nothing I saw changed me from that.  Boston just matches up very well with Golden State so I expect them to win.

The fact that Boston won a game by 12 that Tatum was 3 of 17 from the field in, pretty solidly confirms that Boston is in fact the better team.  Obviously Boston isn't going to shoot over 50% from 3 again, though I'm not so sure Golden State will shoot 42% from 3 again either.

Your prediction may hold up.  Like I said, it is like a baseball game where we have a 1 run lead in the 3rd inning or something like that.  But in order to win this in 5, we are going to have to play better, or specifically more consistently, than we did in the previous two series, which I think we can.

We do match up well against GSW but they have more offensive punch than MIL or MIA.  As you said, even in a loss, they shoot 42% from 3.  That isn't so different than their overall playoff average of 38%.  If we let up and allow them to have a run, the run is probably going to be a bigger run than either MIL or MIA was able to do.  They take more and make more 3s than MIL or MIA.

This is true, but I also think we have to recognize that GS seems a step below both Milwaukee and Miami defensively, too.

Yes, GS had good defensive numbers all season, but to be honest I’m not sure how. Historically, there’s a major difference between the defense of the East versus the defense of the West, with the East teams being much more physical and hard-nosed. I think you’re seeing that play out here, and we’re feeling much lesss physical presence from GS’s defense than either of our previous opponents.

[Boston Garden Leprechaun]

LOL, was going to be an over reaction no matter which way it went, because that's what we do.

Now, did Draymond over react after the game "We pretty much dominated the game for the first 41, 42 minutes"?  Yeah, I think a bit much since GSW trailed at half.  But then Perk steps into it as well "That was a whole lot of lying for the simple fact ... 'we'll be fine,' no you won't".

That said, if Al keeps playing the way, the C's might be difficult to beat.

wait what? big perk actually said that on some shock jock show?

if so.................

[Boston Garden Leprechaun]

I think Boston has another gear that they can ratch things up to physically. Suddenly Rob and Al are stuffing shots left and right, we're clogging every passing lane, snatching every loose ball.

Generating easy looks on the break.

Golden State does not have this same gear anymore. They are wily, they are skilled, but when we get going it is like a bunch of rampaging tigers out there.

All the great teams have this extra gear. The Russell Celtics were famous for it. The Showtime Lakers. The Jordan Bulls, the LeBron Heat. Golden State used to have it. It's hard to win without it.

right and i mean this curry dude can come off the dribble pull up and hit a 30 footer CONTESTED like it is nothing. you just have to stay on top of him and make him pass the ball. 

we need to play an inside out game for 48 minutes. miami could not stop us inside when we were determined to go to the hoop. The bucks were tougher due to giannis, portis and lopez but we spaced them just enough for some shots to fall to open up some cutters and drives to the hoop.

we should be leaning and pounding on every GS player for 48 minutes. we are an offensive line who needs to run the ball and pound the smaller weaker D line. i am not sure GS can handle that amount of pounding over the course of 48 minutes a game for 7 games.

best way to stop a GS run is get to foul line. we can win this series at the foul line. drive and we will get there. GS takes way too many jays to get to the line.

we need to capitalize on this dare i say

old lakers style? LOL

[cman88]

Draymond wants to frame this like it was a fluke. But if white, horford and smart cool down who is to say Tatum and grant or prichard don't go lights out? We've seen Tatum go for 46 in an elimination game.

It seems like Draymond isnt giving the Celtics respect with that mindset. Which fine then bring it on.

People been saying that since the nets series

[nickagneta]

We played one good quarter.  That one quarter was really really good, historically good, but still just one quarter.  Miami had some good quarters that led to wins early in the series too.

I know the stats say that GSW are a better defensive team than MIA and MIL but I don't see it.  They are well coached defensively and execute their doubles and rotations at a very high level.  They are quick and athletic but lack the size and strength of MIA and MIL.  That isn't to say they are a bad defensive team or that defense is a weakness.  I see solid defense with good effort, just not MIL or MIA defense.

But they can shoot.  So I predict big runs, big swings.  They may get hot and blow us out in the next game.  Both teams take tons of 3s.  That means highly variable scoring.   Hit a couple, miss 5, hit couple more.  So really hard to sweep.  Right now, it is like a no-hitter in the 3rd inning or something.  Talk to me when the no-hit game is still going in the 8th inning.

We played okay in the second quarter as well, didn't we?  We outscored then 28-22, which is a very good quarter.

Even in the first we put up 28 points, but gave up an unacceptable 32.

If the Warriors (Draymond) and the media want to run with the narrative of "the Celtics only played well one quarter", I'll take it.  I just don't think it's true.  We beat them in the first half, and we beat them in the 4th.  We just had a lousy third quarter, as has often been the case.

I do agree that this series is susceptible to huge swings, even moreso than the Miami series.

It wasn't even the whole 3rd quarter.  It was 60-61 with 9:43 left in the 3rd.  They increased the lead by 14 more points at 2:10, but Boston closed the 15 point deficit to 12 at the end of the quarter.  So that 7.5 minute stretch was really bad, but the other 4.5 minutes of the 3rd it was even play.

I agree with all of this but if we had played in the 4th like we did in the 2nd, and won a close game, would there be people talking about a sweep (well, actually, I suppose there probably would)?  That I guess is my point.  The fourth quarter was its own thing but the rest of the game was just the expected back and forth between two evenly matched teams that take a lot of 3s.  One team is more hot one quarter, the other team the next.  The play in those quarters says a tough seven game series, not anything close to a sweep.  At least that is what I saw.

I have said all along that I did not think GSW are any better than MIL or MIA.  What concerned me from the previous series is that we had a pattern of playing well, then regressing.  Fighting hard when we had to, then playing tentative and letting MIL or MIA take control.  Not unexpected for a young team that is deeper in the playoffs than anyone expected at the start of the season.  If that pattern continues against GSW or is amplified due to the pressure of the finals, we give them an opportunity and they are a team that could take advantage of it more than MIL or MIA did.  I think Celtics as a team are good enough to play better/more consistently than we did the last couple of rounds.  Further, I think we need to.

well I picked Boston in 5 before the series started, so nothing I saw changed me from that.  Boston just matches up very well with Golden State so I expect them to win.

The fact that Boston won a game by 12 that Tatum was 3 of 17 from the field in, pretty solidly confirms that Boston is in fact the better team.  Obviously Boston isn't going to shoot over 50% from 3 again, though I'm not so sure Golden State will shoot 42% from 3 again either.

Your prediction may hold up.  Like I said, it is like a baseball game where we have a 1 run lead in the 3rd inning or something like that.  But in order to win this in 5, we are going to have to play better, or specifically more consistently, than we did in the previous two series, which I think we can.

We do match up well against GSW but they have more offensive punch than MIL or MIA.  As you said, even in a loss, they shoot 42% from 3.  That isn't so different than their overall playoff average of 38%.  If we let up and allow them to have a run, the run is probably going to be a bigger run than either MIL or MIA was able to do.  They take more and make more 3s than MIL or MIA.

This is true, but I also think we have to recognize that GS seems a step below both Milwaukee and Miami defensively, too.

Yes, GS had good defensive numbers all season, but to be honest I’m not sure how. Historically, there’s a major difference between the defense of the East versus the defense of the West, with the East teams being much more physical and hard-nosed. I think you’re seeing that play out here, and we’re feeling much lesss physical presence from GS’s defense than either of our previous opponents.

GSW's defensive numbers could be what they are because the played out West. Playing three to four games against Houston, San Antonio, OKC, Portland and the Lakers, instead of just 2 games, like Boston, surely helped those numbers. Heck, the West as a whole, had some bad offenses. Dallas, New Orleans and the Clippers had some pretty terrible offenses too. I think that accounts for the numbers showing GSW had a great defense.

[johnnygreen]

Did anyone see Perkins this morning on First Take?

Perk was dressed up in prison gear and said they just re-opened Alcatraz so the Golden State Warriors would have a place to stay, because the Boston Celtics just locked them up. The reactions from the other 3 people on the panel, after they first see Perk dressed up is hilarious.

[Boston Garden Leprechaun]

Did anyone see Perkins this morning on First Take?

Perk was dressed up in prison gear and said they just re-opened Alcatraz so the Golden State Warriors would have a place to stay, because the Boston Celtics just locked them up. The reactions from the other 3 people on the panel, after they first see Perk dressed up is hilarious.

no. post the link so we can watch it please.

[nickagneta]

[gouki88]

Hilarious

[pokeKingCurtis]

Bumping this ahead of the game 2 loss

[SparzWizard]

Everyone sipped the green tinted kool-aid before Game 2. Now we gotta really defend home-court and win Game 3.

[gouki88]

Everyone sipped the green tinted kool-aid before Game 2. Now we gotta really defend home-court and win Game 3.

Says the most reactionary anti-Celtics poster on the board

[Phantom255x]

Bumping this ahead of the game 2 loss

That sucked, especially the 3rd. But if you told me we'd be 1-1 heading back to Boston, I'd be ecstatic.

This team's been resilient all year and I trust they'll show up in Game 3. It's just bizarre to me how bad so many of our main guys looked (Horford especially, Smart, etc.). Jaylen was awesome early on but then went ice cold too. Up to Ime and the crew to make adjustments too.

[tenn_smoothie]

Everyone sipped the green tinted kool-aid before Game 2. Now we gotta really defend home-court and win Game 3.

Says the most reactionary anti-Celtics poster on the board

I'm sorry Gouki, but you are a complete hypocrite.
You rant and rave during the games like the rest of us and then act like you are above such reactions afterwards.
At least be authentic.