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Re: Strategy for Bucks Game Tonight (7 Apr 2022)
« Reply #90 on: April 07, 2022, 06:55:48 PM »

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Sgrogan you sound young. Don't buy into everything the media tells you as it's being funded in large part by companies like Pfizer and Moderna. This all said, I would be shocked if Jaylen or anyone else in the rotation pulled a Kyrie with the playoffs here.

This team really does seem like it's together and committed to making as deep a playoff run as it can.

unless they pull a fast one, or luckily don't line up with toronto, prepare yourself

Re: Strategy for Bucks Game Tonight (7 Apr 2022)
« Reply #91 on: April 07, 2022, 07:24:26 PM »

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Sgrogan you sound young. Don't buy into everything the media tells you as it's being funded in large part by companies like Pfizer and Moderna. This all said, I would be shocked if Jaylen or anyone else in the rotation pulled a Kyrie with the playoffs here.

This team really does seem like it's together and committed to making as deep a playoff run as it can.
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Jaylen seems like a principled guy. I'm not sure playoff eligibility would change his position,

I also don't know his position beyond "it's a personal decision"
Donoghus' post could very well explain it.

If Jaylen plays in Toronto(if necessary) its all noise.

Re: Strategy for Bucks Game Tonight (7 Apr 2022)
« Reply #92 on: April 07, 2022, 10:12:46 PM »

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Sgrogan you sound young. Don't buy into everything the media tells you as it's being funded in large part by companies like Pfizer and Moderna. This all said, I would be shocked if Jaylen or anyone else in the rotation pulled a Kyrie with the playoffs here.

This team really does seem like it's together and committed to making as deep a playoff run as it can.

You might be funded by Pfizer!   Of course you shouldn’t believe everything you are told, but it’s ok to believe some of what we’re told is true. Because… it is.

Re: Strategy for Bucks Game Tonight (7 Apr 2022)
« Reply #93 on: April 08, 2022, 04:53:49 AM »

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So many of the Celtics are in an offensive groove, you have to play them to keep them in that groove as much as possible, since the team is getting a week or so off anyway while the play ins happen.

No need to rest, rest will be there. Play to win and let the seedings happen as they may. No need to attempt to game the seedings. Win out. Get that HCA as much as possible. It can be important.

Look at our last title. Atlanta(w/Joe Johnson, Horford, Josh Smith, Bibby, Marvin Williams), Cleveland(w/Lebron), Detroit(w/almost all of 2004 champions intact), LAL. Celtics played 26 out of a maximum 28 playoff games and HCA was huge during that title run.

To be a champion, you gotta beat everyone and anyone put in your way. Go for it Celtics!

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Re: Strategy for Bucks Game Tonight (7 Apr 2022)
« Reply #94 on: April 08, 2022, 10:43:00 AM »

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The NBA should make the Raptors play in a neutral site rather than force people to get the shot or else.
Back to wanting Joe fired.

Re: Strategy for Bucks Game Tonight (7 Apr 2022)
« Reply #95 on: April 08, 2022, 11:55:47 AM »

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So many of the Celtics are in an offensive groove, you have to play them to keep them in that groove as much as possible, since the team is getting a week or so off anyway while the play ins happen.

No need to rest, rest will be there. Play to win and let the seedings happen as they may. No need to attempt to game the seedings. Win out. Get that HCA as much as possible. It can be important.

Look at our last title. Atlanta(w/Joe Johnson, Horford, Josh Smith, Bibby, Marvin Williams), Cleveland(w/Lebron), Detroit(w/almost all of 2004 champions intact), LAL. Celtics played 26 out of a maximum 28 playoff games and HCA was huge during that title run.

To be a champion, you gotta beat everyone and anyone put in your way. Go for it Celtics!

TP. My sentiments exactly.

This is way I was taught to play ball in real life too.     I d just rattle Kyries teeth a couple times ,  it’s all it takes .    Like Wade use to do guys he couldn’t stop just beat them up …..Rondo and IT

Re: Strategy for Bucks Game Tonight (7 Apr 2022)
« Reply #96 on: April 08, 2022, 01:49:03 PM »

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Not sure if voting is done but 23-12 thought we should have tried to win this game.  With PHI losing, we are probably now going to end up with the 3 seed.  Better first round match up probably (but not certainly) than the 2 seed will get.  The downside is that we are now likely to play the Bucks in round two without HCA.

So many things can still change, BKN could lose and not even get in.  BKN could end up the 7 seed and beat MIL (giving us HCA in round 2).  Or BKN could end up the 8 seed and then we almost certainly would see MIL in the second round.

I hope that they did this because Tatum and Horford really will benefit from the rest.  I must say, I am still not sure how much benefit there will be from this rest.  Are Horford and Tatum really going to play any differently over a week from now when the playoffs start? Are they going to be any less worn down 3 weeks from now or 6 weeks as the playoffs go on?  I can't imagine there is going to be any difference at all.

Re: Strategy for Bucks Game Tonight (7 Apr 2022)
« Reply #97 on: April 08, 2022, 01:54:54 PM »

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Not sure if voting is done but 23-12 thought we should have tried to win this game.  With PHI losing, we are probably now going to end up with the 3 seed.  Better first round match up probably (but not certainly) than the 2 seed will get.  The downside is that we are now likely to play the Bucks in round two without HCA.

So many things can still change, BKN could lose and not even get in.  BKN could end up the 7 seed and beat MIL (giving us HCA in round 2).  Or BKN could end up the 8 seed and then we almost certainly would see MIL in the second round.

I hope that they did this because Tatum and Horford really will benefit from the rest.  I must say, I am still not sure how much benefit there will be from this rest.  Are Horford and Tatum really going to play any differently over a week from now when the playoffs start? Are they going to be any less worn down 3 weeks from now or 6 weeks as the playoffs go on?  I can't imagine there is going to be any difference at all.

If you look at scenarios I think we are still favored to get the two seed. Most scenarios IMO lead us to ending up with the two.


Re: Strategy for Bucks Game Tonight (7 Apr 2022)
« Reply #98 on: April 08, 2022, 02:48:20 PM »

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Not sure if voting is done but 23-12 thought we should have tried to win this game.  With PHI losing, we are probably now going to end up with the 3 seed.  Better first round match up probably (but not certainly) than the 2 seed will get.  The downside is that we are now likely to play the Bucks in round two without HCA.

So many things can still change, BKN could lose and not even get in.  BKN could end up the 7 seed and beat MIL (giving us HCA in round 2).  Or BKN could end up the 8 seed and then we almost certainly would see MIL in the second round.

I hope that they did this because Tatum and Horford really will benefit from the rest.  I must say, I am still not sure how much benefit there will be from this rest.  Are Horford and Tatum really going to play any differently over a week from now when the playoffs start? Are they going to be any less worn down 3 weeks from now or 6 weeks as the playoffs go on?  I can't imagine there is going to be any difference at all.

If you look at scenarios I think we are still favored to get the two seed. Most scenarios IMO lead us to ending up with the two.

How do you figure? Bucks close out the season against the Pistons and Cavs - if they win these games, they get the 2-seed. I guess since it's a b2b, they could lose one, but I'd imagine they are heavily favored to win both.

Re: Strategy for Bucks Game Tonight (7 Apr 2022)
« Reply #99 on: April 08, 2022, 02:51:08 PM »

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Not sure if voting is done but 23-12 thought we should have tried to win this game.  With PHI losing, we are probably now going to end up with the 3 seed.  Better first round match up probably (but not certainly) than the 2 seed will get.  The downside is that we are now likely to play the Bucks in round two without HCA.

So many things can still change, BKN could lose and not even get in.  BKN could end up the 7 seed and beat MIL (giving us HCA in round 2).  Or BKN could end up the 8 seed and then we almost certainly would see MIL in the second round.

I hope that they did this because Tatum and Horford really will benefit from the rest.  I must say, I am still not sure how much benefit there will be from this rest.  Are Horford and Tatum really going to play any differently over a week from now when the playoffs start? Are they going to be any less worn down 3 weeks from now or 6 weeks as the playoffs go on?  I can't imagine there is going to be any difference at all.

If you look at scenarios I think we are still favored to get the two seed. Most scenarios IMO lead us to ending up with the two.

How do you figure? Bucks close out the season against the Pistons and Cavs - if they win these games, they get the 2-seed. I guess since it's a b2b, they could lose one, but I'd imagine they are heavily favored to win both.

I posted the chart in the NBA season thread but 3 seed is the most likely landing spot for the Celtics at 53% (if I'm reading it right).


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Re: Strategy for Bucks Game Tonight (7 Apr 2022)
« Reply #100 on: April 08, 2022, 02:53:48 PM »

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Not sure if voting is done but 23-12 thought we should have tried to win this game.  With PHI losing, we are probably now going to end up with the 3 seed.  Better first round match up probably (but not certainly) than the 2 seed will get.  The downside is that we are now likely to play the Bucks in round two without HCA.

So many things can still change, BKN could lose and not even get in.  BKN could end up the 7 seed and beat MIL (giving us HCA in round 2).  Or BKN could end up the 8 seed and then we almost certainly would see MIL in the second round.

I hope that they did this because Tatum and Horford really will benefit from the rest.  I must say, I am still not sure how much benefit there will be from this rest.  Are Horford and Tatum really going to play any differently over a week from now when the playoffs start? Are they going to be any less worn down 3 weeks from now or 6 weeks as the playoffs go on?  I can't imagine there is going to be any difference at all.

If you look at scenarios I think we are still favored to get the two seed. Most scenarios IMO lead us to ending up with the two.

How do you figure? Bucks close out the season against the Pistons and Cavs - if they win these games, they get the 2-seed. I guess since it's a b2b, they could lose one, but I'd imagine they are heavily favored to win both.

The thinking is probably that the Bucks want to avoid Brooklyn, as well.  But if that's the case, I would have imagined that they would have rested their starters last night. 


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Re: Strategy for Bucks Game Tonight (7 Apr 2022)
« Reply #101 on: April 08, 2022, 03:48:07 PM »

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Not sure if voting is done but 23-12 thought we should have tried to win this game.  With PHI losing, we are probably now going to end up with the 3 seed.  Better first round match up probably (but not certainly) than the 2 seed will get.  The downside is that we are now likely to play the Bucks in round two without HCA.

So many things can still change, BKN could lose and not even get in.  BKN could end up the 7 seed and beat MIL (giving us HCA in round 2).  Or BKN could end up the 8 seed and then we almost certainly would see MIL in the second round.

I hope that they did this because Tatum and Horford really will benefit from the rest.  I must say, I am still not sure how much benefit there will be from this rest.  Are Horford and Tatum really going to play any differently over a week from now when the playoffs start? Are they going to be any less worn down 3 weeks from now or 6 weeks as the playoffs go on?  I can't imagine there is going to be any difference at all.

If you look at scenarios I think we are still favored to get the two seed. Most scenarios IMO lead us to ending up with the two.

How do you figure? Bucks close out the season against the Pistons and Cavs - if they win these games, they get the 2-seed. I guess since it's a b2b, they could lose one, but I'd imagine they are heavily favored to win both.

I posted the chart in the NBA season thread but 3 seed is the most likely landing spot for the Celtics at 53% (if I'm reading it right).

When I look at the playoff odds as presented by Basketball Reference, I see the same.  Most likely outcome for the Celtics is 3 seed (53.1%), next is the 4 seed (29.3%), and the least likely is the 2 seed (17.7%).  The Bucks are listed as having a 77.6% chance of landing at the 2 seed.

I don't know how they figure this but it certainly seems to make sense with where things stand.

For BKN, they have them at 30.6% chance of being the 7 seed and 24.8% of being the 8 seed.  That means a 44.6% chance of getting knocked out and not making it at all.

It is interesting that they still have the Celtics with the best odds of winning the conference (42.0%).  Again, not sure how they figure all of this but it is interesting at any rate.

I think BKN is more likely than 53.4% of winning in the play in rounds,  They have their odds of winning the conference at 1.4%.  I think the real likelihood that the Celtics win the conference is probably less than 42% and for BKN more than 1.4% but we are very much in the hunt for this.  Usually there is far more predictability in the playoffs in basketball.  Not this season, at least in the East.  Any one of 5 teams has a legitimate chance to win and get to the finals.

Re: Strategy for Bucks Game Tonight (7 Apr 2022)
« Reply #102 on: April 08, 2022, 03:52:27 PM »

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I think it will be telling if the Bucks rest Giannis/Starters tonight. If they do I think they're playing for 3 if they don't then they are all in.

Re: Strategy for Bucks Game Tonight (7 Apr 2022)
« Reply #103 on: April 08, 2022, 04:22:05 PM »

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I think it will be telling if the Bucks rest Giannis/Starters tonight. If they do I think they're playing for 3 if they don't then they are all in.

Bingo ……they an’t winning squat without Giannis and Middleton in a serious game.  I ll be shocked if their two stars play either of the last to games.  When it’s so easy to tank and leave Boston for Nets .  I would presume the Bucks forums are hoping for the same.

I think if they want to saddle Boston with Nets the’ll sit their two main guys both games and there is nothin Boston can do but get ready for Brooklyn and Kyrie

It’s really up to Bucks deciding to play ball to win  or not WHO Boston plays . Bucks are capable  ::) should win both of their last games ……but will they try ?  ::)


I just don’t see anybody willing to step in take on the Nets

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Re: Strategy for Bucks Game Tonight (7 Apr 2022)
« Reply #104 on: April 08, 2022, 07:28:59 PM »

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Bucks aren't sitting anyone tonight.

Why wouldn't they have punted last night if they wanted to have the 3rd seed?