NFL Off-season 2022

[Neurotic Guy]

Are the Patriots gonna grab any more receivers? Or take someone in the first round.

I really doubt they take a receiver in the first round, unless someone unexpectedly slips. I suspect CB or LB, if they don't trade back.

How’s the draft for O-line?  Seems to me protecting Mac is a key to the offense and they lost 2 starters.

[Goldstar88]

Are the Patriots gonna grab any more receivers? Or take someone in the first round.

I really doubt they take a receiver in the first round, unless someone unexpectedly slips. I suspect CB or LB, if they don't trade back.

How’s the draft for O-line?  Seems to me protecting Mac is a key to the offense and they lost 2 starters.

Exactly. If the O-line isn’t solid, receivers won’t have enough time to get open, there won’t be lanes for the RB’s and Mac will be on his back. I want an OT with the first pick. Best  available LB, DE or CB with the second and a WR with the 3rd.

[celticsclay]

Are the Patriots gonna grab any more receivers? Or take someone in the first round.

I really doubt they take a receiver in the first round, unless someone unexpectedly slips. I suspect CB or LB, if they don't trade back.

How’s the draft for O-line?  Seems to me protecting Mac is a key to the offense and they lost 2 starters.

Exactly. If the O-line isn’t solid, receivers won’t have enough time to get open, there won’t be lanes for the RB’s and Mac will be on his back. I want an OT with the first pick. Best  available LB, DE or CB with the second and a WR with the 3rd.

I agree we need a good oline for receivers to be important, but how bad are our receiving options? Hunter Henry, Parker and Meyers? That has to be the worst in the league. It’s not even clear if we have a decent receiving back with white trying to come back from serious injury at 30 years old. Take a flier on beckham or Michael Thomas or swing big with metcalf.

[gouki88]

Are the Patriots gonna grab any more receivers? Or take someone in the first round.

I doubt we go for a receiver in the draft unless Drake London falls, and even then I think we sit tight. Parker, Meyers, Bourne and Hunter Henry as our main passing weapons with James White coming back is alright. I definitely don't see it as remotely close to "worst in the league" though - Meyers and Bourne are both really solid WRs. With us moving away from McDaniels' offence and ditching the FB role we should also see Jonnu Smith incorporated more into the offence.

I'd love to see us ship off Agholor. Even if it's something like him + a 7th for a 5th I would do that. I just did a mock draft playing the role of the Pats, and this is who I would take (if the chips fell the way that they did):

21: Trent McDuffie, CB
54: Nakobe Dean, ILB/OLB
85: Darian Kinnard, G/T
127: Verone McKinley III, S
170: Romeo Doubs, WR
200: Micah McFadden, MLB
210: Vederian Lowe, OT

I'd be happy with this

[Goldstar88]

Are the Patriots gonna grab any more receivers? Or take someone in the first round.

I really doubt they take a receiver in the first round, unless someone unexpectedly slips. I suspect CB or LB, if they don't trade back.

How’s the draft for O-line?  Seems to me protecting Mac is a key to the offense and they lost 2 starters.

Exactly. If the O-line isn’t solid, receivers won’t have enough time to get open, there won’t be lanes for the RB’s and Mac will be on his back. I want an OT with the first pick. Best  available LB, DE or CB with the second and a WR with the 3rd.

I agree we need a good oline for receivers to be important, but how bad are our receiving options? Hunter Henry, Parker and Meyers? That has to be the worst in the league. It’s not even clear if we have a decent receiving back with white trying to come back from serious injury at 30 years old. Take a flier on beckham or Michael Thomas or swing big with metcalf.

I don’t think Bill wants to pay a Michael Thomas who just turned 29 or a DK Metcalf who is going to command $20M+ per season. There supposedly was some interest with OBJ, but I can’t see his personality fitting in with NE. I’m hoping the Pats draft Metchie in the 3rd. He has chemistry with Mac and his stock is low due to his acl injury.

[Cman]

Are the Patriots gonna grab any more receivers? Or take someone in the first round.

I really doubt they take a receiver in the first round, unless someone unexpectedly slips. I suspect CB or LB, if they don't trade back.

How’s the draft for O-line?  Seems to me protecting Mac is a key to the offense and they lost 2 starters.

Exactly. If the O-line isn’t solid, receivers won’t have enough time to get open, there won’t be lanes for the RB’s and Mac will be on his back. I want an OT with the first pick. Best  available LB, DE or CB with the second and a WR with the 3rd.

I should have listed OT as well. I agree with these points. I don't necessarily want an OT for the first pick, though. I suspect the Pats have eyes on a few specific OT, LB, CB for the first pick, but will probably trade back if the ones they have in mind aren't there.

[Vermont Green]

I expect the Patriots to make very unexciting draft picks.  A trade back or two would not surprise me.  I expect the high picks to be offensive line or other useful but unknown players.

The defense has some holes but the draft is a hard way to fix that.  If a CB got picked fairly high, it would not be a surprise.

As to specific players, I have no idea.  Other than Mac Jones, has anyone ever actually been able to predict who the Pats take with a specific pick?

[Goldstar88]

Crazy money for WR’s this off-season…


The Buffalo Bills have reached agreement with wide receiver Stefon Diggs on a four-year, $104 million extension that includes $70 million guaranteed, sources told ESPN's Adam Schefter.

With two years remaining on his existing deal, Diggs' contract now runs through 2027 at a total value of $124.1 million. Both the Bills and Diggs would like him to retire in Buffalo, sources said.

[Cman]

Are the Patriots gonna grab any more receivers? Or take someone in the first round.

I really doubt they take a receiver in the first round, unless someone unexpectedly slips. I suspect CB or LB, if they don't trade back.

How’s the draft for O-line?  Seems to me protecting Mac is a key to the offense and they lost 2 starters.

Exactly. If the O-line isn’t solid, receivers won’t have enough time to get open, there won’t be lanes for the RB’s and Mac will be on his back. I want an OT with the first pick. Best  available LB, DE or CB with the second and a WR with the 3rd.

I should have listed OT as well. I agree with these points. I don't necessarily want an OT for the first pick, though. I suspect the Pats have eyes on a few specific OT, LB, CB for the first pick, but will probably trade back if the ones they have in mind aren't there.

This Left Tackle was in for a visit with the Pats today.
https://youtu.be/JNTRvd9bvyc
They say he's got a mean streak and you can see it on some of these plays...

[Cman]

Are the Patriots gonna grab any more receivers? Or take someone in the first round.

I really doubt they take a receiver in the first round, unless someone unexpectedly slips. I suspect CB or LB, if they don't trade back.

How’s the draft for O-line?  Seems to me protecting Mac is a key to the offense and they lost 2 starters.

Exactly. If the O-line isn’t solid, receivers won’t have enough time to get open, there won’t be lanes for the RB’s and Mac will be on his back. I want an OT with the first pick. Best  available LB, DE or CB with the second and a WR with the 3rd.

I agree we need a good oline for receivers to be important, but how bad are our receiving options? Hunter Henry, Parker and Meyers? That has to be the worst in the league. It’s not even clear if we have a decent receiving back with white trying to come back from serious injury at 30 years old. Take a flier on beckham or Michael Thomas or swing big with metcalf.

Pats aren't getting Metcalf. Jets offered the #10 pick in the draft and Seahawks said no. On top of that, Metcalf is due for a huge payday next year (see what happened with S. Diggs).

[Cman]

Are the Patriots gonna grab any more receivers? Or take someone in the first round.

I doubt we go for a receiver in the draft unless Drake London falls, and even then I think we sit tight. Parker, Meyers, Bourne and Hunter Henry as our main passing weapons with James White coming back is alright. I definitely don't see it as remotely close to "worst in the league" though - Meyers and Bourne are both really solid WRs. With us moving away from McDaniels' offence and ditching the FB role we should also see Jonnu Smith incorporated more into the offence.

I'd love to see us ship off Agholor. Even if it's something like him + a 7th for a 5th I would do that. I just did a mock draft playing the role of the Pats, and this is who I would take (if the chips fell the way that they did):

21: Trent McDuffie, CB
54: Nakobe Dean, ILB/OLB
85: Darian Kinnard, G/T
127: Verone McKinley III, S
170: Romeo Doubs, WR
200: Micah McFadden, MLB
210: Vederian Lowe, OT

I'd be happy with this

Agholor's contract isn't that bad, all things considered. I expect the Pats will consider reworking/extending Agholor.

From the names I know on your draft, I like it. But, from everything I've seen, Nakobe Dean is expected to go in first round.

[gouki88]

Are the Patriots gonna grab any more receivers? Or take someone in the first round.

I really doubt they take a receiver in the first round, unless someone unexpectedly slips. I suspect CB or LB, if they don't trade back.

How’s the draft for O-line?  Seems to me protecting Mac is a key to the offense and they lost 2 starters.

Exactly. If the O-line isn’t solid, receivers won’t have enough time to get open, there won’t be lanes for the RB’s and Mac will be on his back. I want an OT with the first pick. Best  available LB, DE or CB with the second and a WR with the 3rd.

I should have listed OT as well. I agree with these points. I don't necessarily want an OT for the first pick, though. I suspect the Pats have eyes on a few specific OT, LB, CB for the first pick, but will probably trade back if the ones they have in mind aren't there.

This Left Tackle was in for a visit with the Pats today.
https://youtu.be/JNTRvd9bvyc
They say he's got a mean streak and you can see it on some of these plays...

Trevor Penning has a mean streak, but his technique and posture is terrible. He will get flagged into irrelevance very quickly if he does not get his act together.

[gouki88]

Are the Patriots gonna grab any more receivers? Or take someone in the first round.

I doubt we go for a receiver in the draft unless Drake London falls, and even then I think we sit tight. Parker, Meyers, Bourne and Hunter Henry as our main passing weapons with James White coming back is alright. I definitely don't see it as remotely close to "worst in the league" though - Meyers and Bourne are both really solid WRs. With us moving away from McDaniels' offence and ditching the FB role we should also see Jonnu Smith incorporated more into the offence.

I'd love to see us ship off Agholor. Even if it's something like him + a 7th for a 5th I would do that. I just did a mock draft playing the role of the Pats, and this is who I would take (if the chips fell the way that they did):

21: Trent McDuffie, CB
54: Nakobe Dean, ILB/OLB
85: Darian Kinnard, G/T
127: Verone McKinley III, S
170: Romeo Doubs, WR
200: Micah McFadden, MLB
210: Vederian Lowe, OT

I'd be happy with this

Agholor's contract isn't that bad, all things considered. I expect the Pats will consider reworking/extending Agholor.

From the names I know on your draft, I like it. But, from everything I've seen, Nakobe Dean is expected to go in first round.

It's not that bad at all, and if he got worked into the offence (which McDaniels refused to do) it'd be fine - he's a really solid deep threat receiver. I'm just not sure we will do so.

Dean certainly could be a first, his worst-case projections is mid-2nd so we'd be lucky for him to fall. It just so happened that in the simulator I was using he did fall to us. I would love for either he or Lloyd to fall to the 2nd round, as I think some athletic LBs is what we desperately need. Sick of seeing Bentley get burnt by guys with speed!

[Cman]

Anyone else excited by the NFL draft tonight?

My dream scenario is that one of top WRs fall to the Patriots at #21, and the Pats select him.
That won't happen, of course, because if a top WR were to fall, the Patriots pick would be that much more valuable, and then BB will trade it away to move down in the draft. Mark my words :/

[Goldstar88]

Anyone else excited by the NFL draft tonight?

My dream scenario is that one of top WRs fall to the Patriots at #21, and the Pats select him.
That won't happen, of course, because if a top WR were to fall, the Patriots pick would be that much more valuable, and then BB will trade it away to move down in the draft. Mark my words :/

Yes. I’d be surprised if the Pats take a WR with their fist pick after trading for Parker. I’m predicting that the Pats trade back to later in the first round and below are my 7 guesses for who they might take. Probably won’t get one right. 

Bernhardt Raimann OT
Andrew Booth Jr CB
Kaiir Elam CB
Brian Asamoah LB
John Metchie WR
Leo Chenal LB
JalynArmour-Davis-CB