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This is what happens
« on: February 16, 2022, 10:28:17 PM »

Offline Goldstar88

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When you lose your two best defensive players, who play hard every minute that they are in the game. This team loses its identity without Smart and Timelord. Giving up 112 points to the Pistons is just unacceptable.

Smart is the leader and heart of this team. He’s invaluable.
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« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2022, 10:30:03 PM »

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He is absolutely not invaluable. If we were down Tatum/Brown/White instead of Smart the outcome would have been much the same - we were too depleted on a back-to-back to win, regardless.
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« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2022, 10:30:16 PM »

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Both of those guys were directly missed, for sure.

I thought we missed Timelord more tonight.  We had no interior presence, and nobody even attempted to rebound.
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« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2022, 10:36:01 PM »

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Quote from: gouki88 on February 16, 2022, 10:30:03 PM
He is absolutely not invaluable. If we were down Tatum/Brown/White instead of Smart the outcome would have been much the same - we were too depleted on a back-to-back to win, regardless.

He sets the tone defensively and holds his teammates accountable. No one else does that for this team. If he plays instead of White, the C’s win this game.
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« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2022, 10:46:17 PM »

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Quote from: Goldstar88 on February 16, 2022, 10:36:01 PM
Quote from: gouki88 on February 16, 2022, 10:30:03 PM
He is absolutely not invaluable. If we were down Tatum/Brown/White instead of Smart the outcome would have been much the same - we were too depleted on a back-to-back to win, regardless.

He sets the tone defensively and holds his teammates accountable. No one else does that for this team. If he plays instead of White, the C’s win this game.
Maybe. Or maybe he shoots 1-13 like our loss against Phoenix, or one of his many other terrible games this season.

There is no reason why you or anyone should have any faith in Marcus to be consistent in what he brings to an individual game.
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PF: Terry Cummings (84-85) / Paul Millsap (15-16)
C: Chris Webber (00-01) / Ralph Sampson (83-84) / Andrew Bogut (09-10)
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« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2022, 10:56:46 PM »

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Quote from: Roy H. on February 16, 2022, 10:30:16 PM
Both of those guys were directly missed, for sure.

I thought we missed Timelord more tonight.  We had no interior presence, and nobody even attempted to rebound.

Considering Jaylen can pick up for Jayson if / when out, and vice versa.... is RWIII our most valuable player? Most essential?
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« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2022, 10:58:28 PM »

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Love the thread title.... can someone smarter than me please post the Big Lebowski clip? Or the PG version  ;D ;D ;D?
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« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2022, 11:15:06 PM »

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Quote from: todd_days_41 on February 16, 2022, 10:58:28 PM
Love the thread title.... can someone smarter than me please post the Big Lebowski clip? Or the PG version  ;D ;D ;D?

There's a PG version?
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« Reply #8 on: February 16, 2022, 11:18:19 PM »

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Quote from: todd_days_41 on February 16, 2022, 10:56:46 PM
Quote from: Roy H. on February 16, 2022, 10:30:16 PM
Both of those guys were directly missed, for sure.

I thought we missed Timelord more tonight.  We had no interior presence, and nobody even attempted to rebound.

Considering Jaylen can pick up for Jayson if / when out, and vice versa.... is RWIII our most valuable player? Most essential?

Well, White didn’t exactly show that he can pick up when Smart is out. Both guys are essential. Defense goes to hell without them.
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« Reply #9 on: February 16, 2022, 11:19:06 PM »

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Quote from: liam on February 16, 2022, 11:15:06 PM
Quote from: todd_days_41 on February 16, 2022, 10:58:28 PM
Love the thread title.... can someone smarter than me please post the Big Lebowski clip? Or the PG version  ;D ;D ;D?

There's a PG version?

S'pose that'd kinda defeat the purpose, huh......
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« Reply #10 on: February 16, 2022, 11:21:25 PM »

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Quote from: liam on February 16, 2022, 11:15:06 PM
Quote from: todd_days_41 on February 16, 2022, 10:58:28 PM
Love the thread title.... can someone smarter than me please post the Big Lebowski clip? Or the PG version  ;D ;D ;D?

There's a PG version?

This is what happens, Larry! This is what happens, Larry! This is what happens when you try to find a stranger in the Alps.
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« Reply #11 on: February 16, 2022, 11:24:56 PM »

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Quote from: Goldstar88 on February 16, 2022, 11:18:19 PM
Quote from: todd_days_41 on February 16, 2022, 10:56:46 PM
Quote from: Roy H. on February 16, 2022, 10:30:16 PM
Both of those guys were directly missed, for sure.

I thought we missed Timelord more tonight.  We had no interior presence, and nobody even attempted to rebound.

Considering Jaylen can pick up for Jayson if / when out, and vice versa.... is RWIII our most valuable player? Most essential?

Well, White didn’t exactly show that he can pick up when Smart is out. Both guys are essential. Defense goes to hell without them.

I appreciate Smart (not really White), but I think Williams is far more essential. I tend to think Marcus' defense is a little overrated by fans, where I think Rob's is underrated.

I bet if you anonymously polled the Top 100 players in the NBA, asking them which individual player they'd like to face least in the offensive half court -- Timelord would get a lot of votes.
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« Reply #12 on: February 16, 2022, 11:25:56 PM »

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Quote from: Goldstar88 on February 16, 2022, 11:21:25 PM
Quote from: liam on February 16, 2022, 11:15:06 PM
Quote from: todd_days_41 on February 16, 2022, 10:58:28 PM
Love the thread title.... can someone smarter than me please post the Big Lebowski clip? Or the PG version  ;D ;D ;D?

There's a PG version?

This is what happens, Larry! This is what happens, Larry! This is what happens when you try to find a stranger in the Alps.

That's strong..... TP
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« Reply #13 on: February 16, 2022, 11:26:21 PM »

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Quote from: Goldstar88 on February 16, 2022, 11:21:25 PM
Quote from: liam on February 16, 2022, 11:15:06 PM
Quote from: todd_days_41 on February 16, 2022, 10:58:28 PM
Love the thread title.... can someone smarter than me please post the Big Lebowski clip? Or the PG version  ;D ;D ;D?

There's a PG version?

This is what happens, Larry! This is what happens, Larry! This is what happens when you try to find a stranger in the Alps.

That's a mockery!!! LOL
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« Reply #14 on: February 16, 2022, 11:31:02 PM »

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We still should have won easily. The team just came in with the wrong attitude after a blowout win against a very good Sixers team. They overlooked the Pistons and just never bought the defensive effort and focus needed tonight.
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