Simmons: The Straw That Broke The Camels Back?

[Ed Monix]

I have a feeling that the current Ben Simmons drama could be the last straw for NBA team owners, in regards to the current Collective Bargaining Agreement (CBA).

Klutch Sports and Simmons seem to have push the boundaries of legality and rumours are that many owners want sweeping cba changes to mitigate future tricks.

Simmons is just the latest example of players bending the rules to get what they want, but many before him have operated similar plans. Kristaps Porzingis, Anthony Davis, Kawhi Leonard, James Harden, Kyrie Irving have all forced their way out of teams, by less than scrupulous means.

Given that teams have all the power, is this just players trying to tilt the scales back in their favour? Perhaps, but small market teams are upset and it looks like there will be ramifications for these actions.

A lock-out may be coming. The current CBA is set to expire after the 2023-2024 season, but both sides could opt out after the 2022-2023 season.

There have been various reports on what team owners want amended. Some say they want a return to a hard cap, longer contracts, removal of max or super max money if a player wants to be immediately moved after signing.

[wdleehi]

I still think there needs to be a way for teams to get players off the team and off the cap without having to trade them.   


Something like just waiving them but still having to pay the player.   If another team signs the players, the money they are giving the player comes off the amount the team that waived them pay.   

Players still get their guarantee. 


And if the player doesn't live up to his requirements for the contract (make it a specific requirement judged by a non-NBA entity), the team can waive them and not pay them.   

[wdleehi]

I know it likely will not happen since I am talking about someone else's money.

[Ed Monix]

I still think there needs to be a way for teams to get players off the team and off the cap without having to trade them.   

Something like just waiving them but still having to pay the player.   If another team signs the players, the money they are giving the player comes off the amount the team that waived them pay.   

Players still get their guarantee. 

And if the player doesn't live up to his requirements for the contract (make it a specific requirement judged by a non-NBA entity), the team can waive them and not pay them.

That’s a very interesting idea. I’m sure it will be brought forward in some form.

What Simmons is doing is terrible, but what isn’t being brought up with him is his family issues and how they may be connected to his dip in form and wanting a move.

If you are unaware, Ben Simmons’ sister (Olivia) had accused their half brother of past sexual molestation, but charges were later dropped. In response their brother sued Olivia for slander.

IMO the biggest issue is what Harden has done in Houston. The Rockets saw the potential in him, traded for him, sacked Kevin McHale to appease him, built the roster several times over to best suit his style of play, the team makes multiple deep runs in the playoffs and as soon as they begin to struggle because of moves Harden asked for, he not only asks for a trade but becomes overweight, flaunts COVID procedures and tanks actually games.

[KG Living Legend]

I still think there needs to be a way for teams to get players off the team and off the cap without having to trade them.   


Something like just waiving them but still having to pay the player.   If another team signs the players, the money they are giving the player comes off the amount the team that waived them pay.   

Players still get their guarantee. 


And if the player doesn't live up to his requirements for the contract (make it a specific requirement judged by a non-NBA entity), the team can waive them and not pay them.

 That's actually a fantastic idea. I'm going to slide up in Adam Silvers DMs.

[BruceBanner18]

I still think there needs to be a way for teams to get players off the team and off the cap without having to trade them.   


Something like just waiving them but still having to pay the player.   If another team signs the players, the money they are giving the player comes off the amount the team that waived them pay.   

Players still get their guarantee. 


And if the player doesn't live up to his requirements for the contract (make it a specific requirement judged by a non-NBA entity), the team can waive them and not pay them.

 That's actually a fantastic idea. I'm going to slide up in Adam Silvers DMs.

Wouldn't it give large market teams an even bigger advantage? Imagine if the NY and LA teams could just keep clearing their cap every time they made a bad signing or a player has a significant injury

[nickagneta]

I still think there needs to be a way for teams to get players off the team and off the cap without having to trade them.   

Something like just waiving them but still having to pay the player.   If another team signs the players, the money they are giving the player comes off the amount the team that waived them pay.   

Players still get their guarantee. 

And if the player doesn't live up to his requirements for the contract (make it a specific requirement judged by a non-NBA entity), the team can waive them and not pay them.

That’s a very interesting idea. I’m sure it will be brought forward in some form.

What Simmons is doing is terrible, but what isn’t being brought up with him is his family issues and how they may be connected to his dip in form and wanting a move.

If you are unaware, Ben Simmons’ sister (Olivia) had accused their half brother of past sexual molestation, but charges were later dropped. In response their brother sued Olivia for slander.

IMO the biggest issue is what Harden has done in Houston. The Rockets saw the potential in him, traded for him, sacked Kevin McHale to appease him, built the roster several times over to best suit his style of play, the team makes multiple deep runs in the playoffs and as soon as they begin to struggle because of moves Harden asked for, he not only asks for a trade but becomes overweight, flaunts COVID procedures and tanks actually games.

If Simmons is faking mental illness in order to keep getting paid while sitting out and doing nothing, that's way worse than anything Harden did. But we don't know yet if Simmons is faking it.

[GreenlyGreeny]

I still think there needs to be a way for teams to get players off the team and off the cap without having to trade them.   


Something like just waiving them but still having to pay the player.   If another team signs the players, the money they are giving the player comes off the amount the team that waived them pay.   

Players still get their guarantee. 


And if the player doesn't live up to his requirements for the contract (make it a specific requirement judged by a non-NBA entity), the team can waive them and not pay them.

I like it. Solves a lot of issues.

[GreenlyGreeny]

I still think there needs to be a way for teams to get players off the team and off the cap without having to trade them.   

Something like just waiving them but still having to pay the player.   If another team signs the players, the money they are giving the player comes off the amount the team that waived them pay.   

Players still get their guarantee. 

And if the player doesn't live up to his requirements for the contract (make it a specific requirement judged by a non-NBA entity), the team can waive them and not pay them.

That’s a very interesting idea. I’m sure it will be brought forward in some form.

What Simmons is doing is terrible, but what isn’t being brought up with him is his family issues and how they may be connected to his dip in form and wanting a move.

If you are unaware, Ben Simmons’ sister (Olivia) had accused their half brother of past sexual molestation, but charges were later dropped. In response their brother sued Olivia for slander.

IMO the biggest issue is what Harden has done in Houston. The Rockets saw the potential in him, traded for him, sacked Kevin McHale to appease him, built the roster several times over to best suit his style of play, the team makes multiple deep runs in the playoffs and as soon as they begin to struggle because of moves Harden asked for, he not only asks for a trade but becomes overweight, flaunts COVID procedures and tanks actually games.

If Simmons is faking mental illness in order to keep getting paid while sitting out and doing nothing, that's way worse than anything Harden did. But we don't know yet if Simmons is faking it.

It’s believable that Simmons is suffering from mental illness. The Philly fans and media are brutal. The guy would be a top ten all-time player if only he could shoot above average, or perhaps even average, but it’s very possible he has tried with everything he has to be a better shooter and he just cannot do that one thing as well as everything else. That would definitely weigh on someone’s mental health…

[PAOBoston]

I still think there needs to be a way for teams to get players off the team and off the cap without having to trade them.   


Something like just waiving them but still having to pay the player.   If another team signs the players, the money they are giving the player comes off the amount the team that waived them pay.   

Players still get their guarantee. 


And if the player doesn't live up to his requirements for the contract (make it a specific requirement judged by a non-NBA entity), the team can waive them and not pay them.

How would this work with the cap? Only allow teams with space to sign them?