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Re: Celtics (4-5) at Mavericks (5-3) Game #10 11/6/21
« Reply #435 on: November 07, 2021, 08:12:05 AM »

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Re: Celtics (4-5) at Mavericks (5-3) Game #10 11/6/21
« Reply #436 on: November 07, 2021, 08:57:12 AM »

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What happened with Smart's foul at the end ?
What did he do that was stupid ?

Mavs ball, game tied. ~11sec on the game clock, ~6 on the shot clock. Smart takes the foul right from the inbounds, resetting the shot clock and giving Mavs the last shot. Then Luka makes the game winner.

While this is correct, it should be noted that Luka’s game-winner was made despite being triple-teamed in the corner by Richardson, Time Lord, and Smart.

The reason the C’s lost is because Luka hit an impossible shot.  If Smart doesn’t take that foul, Luka likely hits a different impossible shot (or perhaps an easier one, as Smart fouled because Luka was getting past him), and sure, the C’s get the ball back with 6 seconds left, but they didn’t score the final 2+ minutes of the game, so the result would have been the same.

Yeah I’ll take ball down 2 or 3 with 6 seconds left over last night’s result. Come on, “result would have been the same” is a ridiculous take. Smart blew a chance on offense to take the lead by trying to force the issue instead of getting the ball to Tatum, and then he eliminated the chance the team had to get the ball back for the final shot. That’s inexcusable.
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Re: Celtics (4-5) at Mavericks (5-3) Game #10 11/6/21
« Reply #437 on: November 07, 2021, 09:40:31 AM »

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Not being able to watch the game, kept up on gamecast.

What happened with Smart's foul at the end ?
What did he do that was stupid ?

Mavs ball, game tied. ~11sec on the game clock, ~6 on the shot clock. Smart takes the foul right from the inbounds, resetting the shot clock and giving Mavs the last shot. Then Luka makes the game winner.

While this is correct, it should be noted that Luka’s game-winner was made despite being triple-teamed in the corner by Richardson, Time Lord, and Smart.

The reason the C’s lost is because Luka hit an impossible shot.  If Smart doesn’t take that foul, Luka likely hits a different impossible shot (or perhaps an easier one, as Smart fouled because Luka was getting past him), and sure, the C’s get the ball back with 6 seconds left, but they didn’t score the final 2+ minutes of the game, so the result would have been the same.

Yeah I’ll take ball down 2 or 3 with 6 seconds left over last night’s result. Come on, “result would have been the same” is a ridiculous take. Smart blew a chance on offense to take the lead by trying to force the issue instead of getting the ball to Tatum, and then he eliminated the chance the team had to get the ball back for the final shot. That’s inexcusable.

Sure, the odds would have been better, but the C’s come back to win from that situation 1 out 5 times?  At best?  It’s not a crazy take to say the C’s were losing that game regardless.

Re: Celtics (4-5) at Mavericks (5-3) Game #10 11/6/21
« Reply #438 on: November 07, 2021, 10:57:18 AM »

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Not being able to watch the game, kept up on gamecast.

What happened with Smart's foul at the end ?
What did he do that was stupid ?

Mavs ball, game tied. ~11sec on the game clock, ~6 on the shot clock. Smart takes the foul right from the inbounds, resetting the shot clock and giving Mavs the last shot. Then Luka makes the game winner.

While this is correct, it should be noted that Luka’s game-winner was made despite being triple-teamed in the corner by Richardson, Time Lord, and Smart.

The reason the C’s lost is because Luka hit an impossible shot.  If Smart doesn’t take that foul, Luka likely hits a different impossible shot (or perhaps an easier one, as Smart fouled because Luka was getting past him), and sure, the C’s get the ball back with 6 seconds left, but they didn’t score the final 2+ minutes of the game, so the result would have been the same.

Yeah I’ll take ball down 2 or 3 with 6 seconds left over last night’s result. Come on, “result would have been the same” is a ridiculous take. Smart blew a chance on offense to take the lead by trying to force the issue instead of getting the ball to Tatum, and then he eliminated the chance the team had to get the ball back for the final shot. That’s inexcusable.

Sure, the odds would have been better, but the C’s come back to win from that situation 1 out 5 times?  At best?  It’s not a crazy take to say the C’s were losing that game regardless.

Yes it is because your guarantee that Luka hits an insane shot no matter what is foolish. By your logic, all we have to do is get the ball to Tatum afterward who was on fire all game, and he’s guaranteed to hit the shot for the tie or win. You’re basically just making stuff up to defend Smart the past few days regardless of whether it’s grounded in reality.
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Re: Celtics (4-5) at Mavericks (5-3) Game #10 11/6/21
« Reply #439 on: November 07, 2021, 11:07:15 AM »

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Not being able to watch the game, kept up on gamecast.

What happened with Smart's foul at the end ?
What did he do that was stupid ?

Mavs ball, game tied. ~11sec on the game clock, ~6 on the shot clock. Smart takes the foul right from the inbounds, resetting the shot clock and giving Mavs the last shot. Then Luka makes the game winner.

While this is correct, it should be noted that Luka’s game-winner was made despite being triple-teamed in the corner by Richardson, Time Lord, and Smart.

The reason the C’s lost is because Luka hit an impossible shot.  If Smart doesn’t take that foul, Luka likely hits a different impossible shot (or perhaps an easier one, as Smart fouled because Luka was getting past him), and sure, the C’s get the ball back with 6 seconds left, but they didn’t score the final 2+ minutes of the game, so the result would have been the same.

Yeah I’ll take ball down 2 or 3 with 6 seconds left over last night’s result. Come on, “result would have been the same” is a ridiculous take. Smart blew a chance on offense to take the lead by trying to force the issue instead of getting the ball to Tatum, and then he eliminated the chance the team had to get the ball back for the final shot. That’s inexcusable.

Sure, the odds would have been better, but the C’s come back to win from that situation 1 out 5 times?  At best?  It’s not a crazy take to say the C’s were losing that game regardless.

Yes it is because your guarantee that Luka hits an insane shot no matter what is foolish. By your logic, all we have to do is get the ball to Tatum afterward who was on fire all game, and he’s guaranteed to hit the shot for the tie or win. You’re basically just making stuff up to defend Smart the past few days regardless of whether it’s grounded in reality.

I also have no idea why Richardson was guarding Luka at the end. Doncic can shoot right over the top of him. How do you not double Doncic, make him pass that ball and force someone else to beat you.
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Re: Celtics (4-5) at Mavericks (5-3) Game #10 11/6/21
« Reply #440 on: November 07, 2021, 11:16:30 AM »

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Not being able to watch the game, kept up on gamecast.

What happened with Smart's foul at the end ?
What did he do that was stupid ?

Mavs ball, game tied. ~11sec on the game clock, ~6 on the shot clock. Smart takes the foul right from the inbounds, resetting the shot clock and giving Mavs the last shot. Then Luka makes the game winner.

While this is correct, it should be noted that Luka’s game-winner was made despite being triple-teamed in the corner by Richardson, Time Lord, and Smart.

The reason the C’s lost is because Luka hit an impossible shot.  If Smart doesn’t take that foul, Luka likely hits a different impossible shot (or perhaps an easier one, as Smart fouled because Luka was getting past him), and sure, the C’s get the ball back with 6 seconds left, but they didn’t score the final 2+ minutes of the game, so the result would have been the same.

Yeah I’ll take ball down 2 or 3 with 6 seconds left over last night’s result. Come on, “result would have been the same” is a ridiculous take. Smart blew a chance on offense to take the lead by trying to force the issue instead of getting the ball to Tatum, and then he eliminated the chance the team had to get the ball back for the final shot. That’s inexcusable.

Sure, the odds would have been better, but the C’s come back to win from that situation 1 out 5 times?  At best?  It’s not a crazy take to say the C’s were losing that game regardless.

Yes it is because your guarantee that Luka hits an insane shot no matter what is foolish. By your logic, all we have to do is get the ball to Tatum afterward who was on fire all game, and he’s guaranteed to hit the shot for the tie or win. You’re basically just making stuff up to defend Smart the past few days regardless of whether it’s grounded in reality.

I also have no idea why Richardson was guarding Luka at the end. Doncic can shoot right over the top of him. How do you not double Doncic, make him pass that ball and force someone else to beat you.

Not so ironically, this is what the Mavs did with their final defensive possession. They threw a double at Tatum and forced someone else to beat them. Fortunately for them, Smart was up to the challenge of trying to beat them.

Tatum passed out of the double, the ball swung to Smart in the corner. Smart drove, initiated contact, threw it up to get the foul, and missed.
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Re: Celtics (4-5) at Mavericks (5-3) Game #10 11/6/21
« Reply #441 on: November 07, 2021, 03:42:49 PM »

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Not being able to watch the game, kept up on gamecast.

What happened with Smart's foul at the end ?
What did he do that was stupid ?

Mavs ball, game tied. ~11sec on the game clock, ~6 on the shot clock. Smart takes the foul right from the inbounds, resetting the shot clock and giving Mavs the last shot. Then Luka makes the game winner.

While this is correct, it should be noted that Luka’s game-winner was made despite being triple-teamed in the corner by Richardson, Time Lord, and Smart.

The reason the C’s lost is because Luka hit an impossible shot.  If Smart doesn’t take that foul, Luka likely hits a different impossible shot (or perhaps an easier one, as Smart fouled because Luka was getting past him), and sure, the C’s get the ball back with 6 seconds left, but they didn’t score the final 2+ minutes of the game, so the result would have been the same.

Yeah I’ll take ball down 2 or 3 with 6 seconds left over last night’s result. Come on, “result would have been the same” is a ridiculous take. Smart blew a chance on offense to take the lead by trying to force the issue instead of getting the ball to Tatum, and then he eliminated the chance the team had to get the ball back for the final shot. That’s inexcusable.

Sure, the odds would have been better, but the C’s come back to win from that situation 1 out 5 times?  At best?  It’s not a crazy take to say the C’s were losing that game regardless.
It's a bit silly, and incredibly defeatist.

The foul guaranteed that the absolute best case was OT. We had no chance of winning in regulation once that foul was committed. That is terrible basketball.
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Re: Celtics (4-5) at Mavericks (5-3) Game #10 11/6/21
« Reply #442 on: November 07, 2021, 04:42:47 PM »

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For those blaming Smart for that last drive to the basket, the NBA officials report confirms he got fouled and the refs missed the call:

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No surprise here: Last 2 minute report from Celtics-Mavs acknowledges refs missed foul call on Porzingis with 30 seconds remaining during Smart’s drive to the paint from left corner.
2:32 PM · Nov 7, 2021·Twitter for iPhone

https://twitter.com/BrianTRobb/status/1457445795364487171

Re: Celtics (4-5) at Mavericks (5-3) Game #10 11/6/21
« Reply #443 on: November 07, 2021, 05:07:12 PM »

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For those blaming Smart for that last drive to the basket, the NBA officials report confirms he got fouled and the refs missed the call:

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No surprise here: Last 2 minute report from Celtics-Mavs acknowledges refs missed foul call on Porzingis with 30 seconds remaining during Smart’s drive to the paint from left corner.
2:32 PM · Nov 7, 2021·Twitter for iPhone

https://twitter.com/BrianTRobb/status/1457445795364487171
It was stupid by him to leave that decision in the refs hands. Those calls go either way a lot this season, get a good shot with good offence.
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Re: Celtics (4-5) at Mavericks (5-3) Game #10 11/6/21
« Reply #444 on: November 07, 2021, 05:20:52 PM »

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For those blaming Smart for that last drive to the basket, the NBA officials report confirms he got fouled and the refs missed the call:

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No surprise here: Last 2 minute report from Celtics-Mavs acknowledges refs missed foul call on Porzingis with 30 seconds remaining during Smart’s drive to the paint from left corner.
2:32 PM · Nov 7, 2021·Twitter for iPhone

https://twitter.com/BrianTRobb/status/1457445795364487171
It was stupid by him to leave that decision in the refs hands. Those calls go either way a lot this season, get a good shot with good offence.

The team moved the ball, Smart drove to the basket and was in range for a good shot when he got fouled, that's what your supposed to do. If the opponent fouls you while you are making the right play, it's not you who is leaving the decision in the hands of the refs.

Re: Celtics (4-5) at Mavericks (5-3) Game #10 11/6/21
« Reply #445 on: November 07, 2021, 05:53:54 PM »

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For those blaming Smart for that last drive to the basket, the NBA officials report confirms he got fouled and the refs missed the call:

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No surprise here: Last 2 minute report from Celtics-Mavs acknowledges refs missed foul call on Porzingis with 30 seconds remaining during Smart’s drive to the paint from left corner.
2:32 PM · Nov 7, 2021·Twitter for iPhone

https://twitter.com/BrianTRobb/status/1457445795364487171
It was stupid by him to leave that decision in the refs hands. Those calls go either way a lot this season, get a good shot with good offence.

What about the fact that a 2 for 1 opportunity was about to slip away?  If Smart doesn’t make a play there the game clock likely gets to 24 leaving Mavs with the final possession.  I don’t think it was bad strategy to try to draw the foul (which in fact he did)  knowing that if it didn’t work out the C’s would still have a final possession to tie or win.   Amazingly Smart then threw away that opportunity with the foul.

Re: Celtics (4-5) at Mavericks (5-3) Game #10 11/6/21
« Reply #446 on: November 07, 2021, 07:06:30 PM »

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For those blaming Smart for that last drive to the basket, the NBA officials report confirms he got fouled and the refs missed the call:

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No surprise here: Last 2 minute report from Celtics-Mavs acknowledges refs missed foul call on Porzingis with 30 seconds remaining during Smart’s drive to the paint from left corner.
2:32 PM · Nov 7, 2021·Twitter for iPhone

https://twitter.com/BrianTRobb/status/1457445795364487171

The Celtics lead the league in two minute call reversals that do us no good at all.

Re: Celtics (4-5) at Mavericks (5-3) Game #10 11/6/21
« Reply #447 on: November 07, 2021, 07:32:21 PM »

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For those blaming Smart for that last drive to the basket, the NBA officials report confirms he got fouled and the refs missed the call:

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Brian Robb
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No surprise here: Last 2 minute report from Celtics-Mavs acknowledges refs missed foul call on Porzingis with 30 seconds remaining during Smart’s drive to the paint from left corner.
2:32 PM · Nov 7, 2021·Twitter for iPhone

https://twitter.com/BrianTRobb/status/1457445795364487171

The Celtics lead the league in two minute call reversals that do us no good at all.

Yup. Too bad we couldn't review a none call.

Re: Celtics (4-5) at Mavericks (5-3) Game #10 11/6/21
« Reply #448 on: November 08, 2021, 05:10:49 AM »

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For those blaming Smart for that last drive to the basket, the NBA officials report confirms he got fouled and the refs missed the call:

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Brian Robb
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No surprise here: Last 2 minute report from Celtics-Mavs acknowledges refs missed foul call on Porzingis with 30 seconds remaining during Smart’s drive to the paint from left corner.
2:32 PM · Nov 7, 2021·Twitter for iPhone

https://twitter.com/BrianTRobb/status/1457445795364487171

The Celtics lead the league in two minute call reversals that do us no good at all.

They really just need to throw those things into the uncontrollables basket and not put themselves in a position where they may have to rely on a referee to make a call that might go either way. Just do better with what they can control.
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Re: Celtics (4-5) at Mavericks (5-3) Game #10 11/6/21
« Reply #449 on: November 09, 2021, 02:07:31 PM »

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