Poll: Stevens worst move so far?

[Moranis]

Horford has been one of our best players thus far. The Kemba trade was a home run when you factor in salaries.

Think the Richardson extension will be justified. Don’t like the Smart extension.

Losing Fournier really hurts us. I think we’d be 5-1 right now instead of 2-4. Knicks game and both Wiz games we would have won with Fournier.

maybe maybe not.  Who is Fournier playing for and which Fournier are you getting?  I mean 2 of Fournier's last 4 games he has shot under 29% (from the field and 3) and when he isn't shooting well he is a big time detriment.

There is no Maybe regarding the Knicks game.  Obviously we would have won that with him.

29% from 3?  For a team that shot 7% from 3 last game?  That's 4 X better. We win that one too.  You can say maybe regarding the first Wiz game.

Sure but the starters were 0 for 16 and he isn't playing over any of the starters and Richardson actually played fairly well in the last game.  He probably takes Langford's minutes in it, and Langford wasn't very good, so maybe he helps, or maybe it is one of his bad games and he doesn't.

That is the same with the Knicks game.  I'm not sure he would have been better than Langford overall as a bench player, though would have been better than Nesmith most likely. 

We saw what Fournier was for Boston, i.e. a 13 ppg bench player (starter with injuries) that provided excellent long range shooting and virtually nothing else.  Those players don't tend to make real meaningful differences in actual wins or losses.  And that is what Fournier would have been again this year.  He isn't starting over Smart, Brown, or Tatum (or Schroder in the games they go with 1 big starting). 

[Roy H.]

We saw what Fournier was for Boston, i.e. a 13 ppg bench player

... while recovering from Covid, which severely affected his vision, and presumably his conditioning.

We've also seen what he has been in New York:  17.5 ppg, 45.1% 3pt%, .564 eFG% for the best team in the NBA so far.

He's scoring more than Smart (7.4) and Richardson (7.4) combined.

 

[Moranis]

We saw what Fournier was for Boston, i.e. a 13 ppg bench player

... while recovering from Covid, which severely affected his vision, and presumably his conditioning.

We've also seen what he has been in New York:  17.5 ppg, 45.1% 3pt%, .564 eFG% for the best team in the NBA so far.

He's scoring more than Smart (7.4) and Richardson (7.4) combined.

 

Do you think he'd actually be starting in Boston?

[Phantom255x]

I think people are really overestimating Fournier. I know he's looked great in NYK and yes, we could have definitely used him. But am I really supposed to believe he'd be threading the needle for this team right now. There's a lot more than just 1-2 issues currently.

Also, people would probably still find a way to blast Brad for re-signing Fournier at his current contract if he had a few bad games too.

Again, I would have liked to have kept Fournier too, but I also am not losing sleep over it nor am I making the claim that with him, we'd be for sure a Top-3 team in the East or something.

Given all the circumstances, I think Brad did the best he could really. It's easy to nitpick 1 or 2 minor moves but that's true with like every team. Maybe you could blame Brad for not trying harder for a trade for a 3rd star but again, the circumstances made that a bit tough for Brad to do this past offseason. It's not like he probably didn't try either.

[Roy H.]

We saw what Fournier was for Boston, i.e. a 13 ppg bench player

... while recovering from Covid, which severely affected his vision, and presumably his conditioning.

We've also seen what he has been in New York:  17.5 ppg, 45.1% 3pt%, .564 eFG% for the best team in the NBA so far.

He's scoring more than Smart (7.4) and Richardson (7.4) combined.

 

Do you think he'd actually be starting in Boston?

If Ime was smart he would be.  Our best lineup would be:

Horford
Tatum
Brown
Fournier
Schroder

... although for whatever reason coaches feel compelled to start Smart no matter what his production or defensive effort.  The whole "defense first" thing makes me chuckle when we give up the most points per game in the NBA (22nd by defensive rating).

[Roy H.]

Given all the circumstances, I think Brad did the best he could really. It's easy to nitpick 1 or 2 minor moves but that's true with like every team. Maybe you could blame Brad for not trying harder for a trade for a 3rd star but again, the circumstances made that a bit tough for Brad to do this past offseason. It's not like he probably didn't try either.

I don't think the "he did the best he could" excuse cuts it at the professional level.  Guys get judged on results of decisions.  There are plenty of decisions that could have gone a different way.  Ultimately, Brad should be evaluated on those, good and bad.

[footey]

We saw what Fournier was for Boston, i.e. a 13 ppg bench player

... while recovering from Covid, which severely affected his vision, and presumably his conditioning.

We've also seen what he has been in New York:  17.5 ppg, 45.1% 3pt%, .564 eFG% for the best team in the NBA so far.

He's scoring more than Smart (7.4) and Richardson (7.4) combined.

 

Do you think he'd actually be starting in Boston?

Of course.

[RPGenerate]

I'll take the option "It's waaaaay to early to tell, we are only six games into his first season as GM" aka the only reasonable choice.

[Moranis]

We saw what Fournier was for Boston, i.e. a 13 ppg bench player

... while recovering from Covid, which severely affected his vision, and presumably his conditioning.

We've also seen what he has been in New York:  17.5 ppg, 45.1% 3pt%, .564 eFG% for the best team in the NBA so far.

He's scoring more than Smart (7.4) and Richardson (7.4) combined.

 

Do you think he'd actually be starting in Boston?

Of course.

When the team was fully healthy last year, he didn't start, why would this year be any different?

[Roy H.]

We saw what Fournier was for Boston, i.e. a 13 ppg bench player

... while recovering from Covid, which severely affected his vision, and presumably his conditioning.

We've also seen what he has been in New York:  17.5 ppg, 45.1% 3pt%, .564 eFG% for the best team in the NBA so far.

He's scoring more than Smart (7.4) and Richardson (7.4) combined.

 

Do you think he'd actually be starting in Boston?

Of course.

When the team was fully healthy last year, he didn't start, why would this year be any different?

Because:

1.  He joined the team 3/4 of the way through the season;

2.  He got Covid right after being traded for, and was physically affected negatively;

3.  At least in theory, a Kemba / Fournier backcourt isn't ideal defensively (although the Knicks are thriving with it).

[Moranis]

We saw what Fournier was for Boston, i.e. a 13 ppg bench player

... while recovering from Covid, which severely affected his vision, and presumably his conditioning.

We've also seen what he has been in New York:  17.5 ppg, 45.1% 3pt%, .564 eFG% for the best team in the NBA so far.

He's scoring more than Smart (7.4) and Richardson (7.4) combined.

 

Do you think he'd actually be starting in Boston?

Of course.

When the team was fully healthy last year, he didn't start, why would this year be any different?

Because:

1.  He joined the team 3/4 of the way through the season;

2.  He got Covid right after being traded for, and was physically affected negatively;

3.  At least in theory, a Kemba / Fournier backcourt isn't ideal defensively (although the Knicks are thriving with it).

Or because the most obvious reason being he wasn't good enough.  The C's were always going to start Smart ahead of him along with Brown and Tatum.  That wouldn't have changed this year.  Fournier would be coming off the bench this year just as he would have been last year. 

[gouki88]

Extending Smart

[nickagneta]

Extending Smart

That would be my vote. Though, perhaps Fournier not re-signing is it as well. The only thing is, even if Boston matched Fournier's salary, does he even accept the offer? It's like the Hayward situation. Ultimately that decision resides with the player, no matter if the Boston front office was willing to match offers. So on that, I hedge on the Fournier re-signing.

[SHAQATTACK]

Extending Smart

It’s starting to feel like that for me ,   With him .  I feel they are pushing a square peg in a round hole .  His best set of skills are the intangibles, a block out that leads to winning basket ,   the things that are not tracked statistically speaking .   If I was coach , he ll be my secret weapon to unleash at certain moments , to regain an advantage , muscle jobs ,  special plays and end game schemes.   He seems to need to see the game from the bench , see what is lacking and come in and do what needs to be done to turn the tide .  Not sure he is comfortable as a starter , he doesn’t seemed locked in or particularly careful or confident . 

[gouki88]

Extending Smart

That would be my vote. Though, perhaps Fournier not re-signing is it as well. The only thing is, even if Boston matched Fournier's salary, does he even accept the offer? It's like the Hayward situation. Ultimately that decision resides with the player, no matter if the Boston front office was willing to match offers. So on that, I hedge on the Fournier re-signing.

Yeah, that one stung, but I do wonder how much of a role Wyc played in the Fournier extension. Either way, both moves peeved me