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Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #4005 on: April 21, 2022, 10:02:19 PM »

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Outscored 37 to 9 so far in the fourth period. That is crazy.

Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #4006 on: April 21, 2022, 10:04:04 PM »

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Games like these are why KAT isn’t considered up there with the likes of Jokic, Embiid and healthy AD. Can’t have too many of these kinds of stinkers. 31 minutes and only 8 points?? He was also awful against the Clippers but the team won in spite of him to get the 7 seed
I agree about KAT but what has AD actually done except show that he's not a #1 star. 

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« Reply #4007 on: April 21, 2022, 10:04:35 PM »

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In other news Luka is not playing for Dallas, but the Mavs are up 10 just into the start of the 2nd quarter.

Kudos to Dallas but I feel this says more about the Jazz than anything else. If the Jazz lose this series I expect real changes for them this offseason
I was honestly surprised they didn't trade Gobert last summer after his tiff with Mitchell and their under performance in the playoffs the last few years.  Team seems tapped out even if they beat a Luka-less Dallas.  Aside from moving Gobert I'm not sure what they can do and I'm not sure there is a going to be a huge market for Gobert.

Yeah they gave him a 5/205M contract extension lol

Honestly if Donovan Mitchell wants to demand a trade to Boston to team up with Jaylen and co. then I’d be down!
That is a ton of money, would they do some sort of dump for Wall.  I think he could fill a lot of what Conley.  So Wall and a couple of Houston's 1st's for Gobert.  Not sure that makes a lot of sense for either team, but I really don't know what Gobert's market will be and perhaps Utah's best approach is clearing the cap in the summer of 2023 to try and lure someone to play with Mitchell then.
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Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #4008 on: April 21, 2022, 10:04:41 PM »

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Games like these are why KAT isn’t considered up there with the likes of Jokic, Embiid and healthy AD. Can’t have too many of these kinds of stinkers. 31 minutes and only 8 points?? He was also awful against the Clippers but the team won in spite of him to get the 7 seed
It's insane, he was playing so well to start the game. He lets stupid things throw him off his game so massively. As soon as he gets in slight foul trouble he wilts
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Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #4009 on: April 21, 2022, 10:06:34 PM »

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Games like these are why KAT isn’t considered up there with the likes of Jokic, Embiid and healthy AD. Can’t have too many of these kinds of stinkers. 31 minutes and only 8 points?? He was also awful against the Clippers but the team won in spite of him to get the 7 seed
It's insane, he was playing so well to start the game. He lets stupid things throw him off his game so massively. As soon as he gets in slight foul trouble he wilts

You guys reckon he's the kinda guy that would benefit insanely from a Rondo-like player? Defensive pass-first PG? (yes, that's a thing in this league, a 'pass-first' PG lol)

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« Reply #4010 on: April 21, 2022, 10:07:35 PM »

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In other news Luka is not playing for Dallas, but the Mavs are up 10 just into the start of the 2nd quarter.

Kudos to Dallas but I feel this says more about the Jazz than anything else. If the Jazz lose this series I expect real changes for them this offseason
I was honestly surprised they didn't trade Gobert last summer after his tiff with Mitchell and their under performance in the playoffs the last few years.  Team seems tapped out even if they beat a Luka-less Dallas.  Aside from moving Gobert I'm not sure what they can do and I'm not sure there is a going to be a huge market for Gobert.

Yeah they gave him a 5/205M contract extension lol

Honestly if Donovan Mitchell wants to demand a trade to Boston to team up with Jaylen and co. then I’d be down!
That is a ton of money, would they do some sort of dump for Wall.  I think he could fill a lot of what Conley.  So Wall and a couple of Houston's 1st's for Gobert.  Not sure that makes a lot of sense for either team, but I really don't know what Gobert's market will be and perhaps Utah's best approach is clearing the cap in the summer of 2023 to try and lure someone to play with Mitchell then.

Maybe try and make a deal with the Lakers involving Westbrook? Something using that framework. I know LAL has AD but that gives them a great front court and Gobert is another great defender
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« Reply #4011 on: April 21, 2022, 10:10:31 PM »

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Games like these are why KAT isn’t considered up there with the likes of Jokic, Embiid and healthy AD. Can’t have too many of these kinds of stinkers. 31 minutes and only 8 points?? He was also awful against the Clippers but the team won in spite of him to get the 7 seed
It's insane, he was playing so well to start the game. He lets stupid things throw him off his game so massively. As soon as he gets in slight foul trouble he wilts

You guys reckon he's the kinda guy that would benefit insanely from a Rondo-like player? Defensive pass-first PG? (yes, that's a thing in this league, a 'pass-first' PG lol)
I would say he'd benefit from having an Alpha male #1 star to lead the team but he couldn't coexist with Butler. 

Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #4012 on: April 21, 2022, 10:17:41 PM »

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Toronto and Dallas were heavily linked with Gobert a few weeks. Dallas loved the idea of putting Gobert next to Luka. Toronto saw Gobert as the missing piece to their starting 5.

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« Reply #4013 on: April 21, 2022, 10:18:06 PM »

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What’s crazy is, not only is Doncic out but Dinwiddie has been mediocre this series. Still, Mavs up 13 and in solid position to go up 2-1 against Utah barring a comeback
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« Reply #4014 on: April 21, 2022, 10:19:12 PM »

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Utah sucks
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Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #4015 on: April 21, 2022, 10:19:25 PM »

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Games like these are why KAT isn’t considered up there with the likes of Jokic, Embiid and healthy AD. Can’t have too many of these kinds of stinkers. 31 minutes and only 8 points?? He was also awful against the Clippers but the team won in spite of him to get the 7 seed
It's insane, he was playing so well to start the game. He lets stupid things throw him off his game so massively. As soon as he gets in slight foul trouble he wilts

You guys reckon he's the kinda guy that would benefit insanely from a Rondo-like player? Defensive pass-first PG? (yes, that's a thing in this league, a 'pass-first' PG lol)
I would say he'd benefit from having an Alpha male #1 star to lead the team but he couldn't coexist with Butler.

Yeah - I'm literally thinking "someone that can distract"

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« Reply #4016 on: April 21, 2022, 10:25:13 PM »

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Utah sucks

Yeah. Getting their butts kicked by a Luka-less Mavs team, and this series could have easily been 3-0. The Mavs were close to stealing game 1 as well.

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« Reply #4017 on: April 21, 2022, 10:28:18 PM »

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In other news Luka is not playing for Dallas, but the Mavs are up 10 just into the start of the 2nd quarter.

Kudos to Dallas but I feel this says more about the Jazz than anything else. If the Jazz lose this series I expect real changes for them this offseason
I was honestly surprised they didn't trade Gobert last summer after his tiff with Mitchell and their under performance in the playoffs the last few years.  Team seems tapped out even if they beat a Luka-less Dallas.  Aside from moving Gobert I'm not sure what they can do and I'm not sure there is a going to be a huge market for Gobert.

Yeah they gave him a 5/205M contract extension lol

Honestly if Donovan Mitchell wants to demand a trade to Boston to team up with Jaylen and co. then I’d be down!
That is a ton of money, would they do some sort of dump for Wall.  I think he could fill a lot of what Conley.  So Wall and a couple of Houston's 1st's for Gobert.  Not sure that makes a lot of sense for either team, but I really don't know what Gobert's market will be and perhaps Utah's best approach is clearing the cap in the summer of 2023 to try and lure someone to play with Mitchell then.

Maybe try and make a deal with the Lakers involving Westbrook? Something using that framework. I know LAL has AD but that gives them a great front court and Gobert is another great defender
I don't think Westbrook makes sense at all in Utah.  He isn't a good fit and the Lakers don't have any other assets (aside from those way in the future picks) to trade.  Houston has so many draft picks and Wall fits better on their roster, that is why I thought a trade there would make sense, though obviously Gobert doesn't exactly fit Houston's timeline, I think they could hold onto him until they find a trade down the line and I do think his defense would make sense on a young team (he also isn't going to affect their tanking all that much).
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« Reply #4018 on: April 21, 2022, 10:36:37 PM »

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Toronto and Dallas were heavily linked with Gobert a few weeks. Dallas loved the idea of putting Gobert next to Luka. Toronto saw Gobert as the missing piece to their starting 5.
They'd be interesting.  I wonder what they'd be willing to trade and would that work for Utah.
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Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #4019 on: April 21, 2022, 10:42:14 PM »

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Wow!  Didn't know Dinwiddie had it like that.  Just stuffed Gobert through the rim.