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Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #1455 on: February 01, 2022, 07:47:20 AM »

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The Sixers look like they are really trying to NOT trade Simmons. They are driving away teams with genuine interest. I have never really seen this before. I guess everyone in Philly is on board with this but it looks like a way to waste an MVP season by Embiid.

Seems like Morey is super confident he can do a sign and trade for harden this summer using simmons. If this is true I think he is undervalueing the cost of wasting this year of Embid.
How is he wasting this year?  The Sixers are only a half game out of 1st in the East.  Maxey has been developing nicely with Simmons not playing.  I haven't seen anything to indicate there is a potential Simmons trade which would move the needle for the Sixers this year.  The potential trading partners have been lowballing the Sixers.

It’s a bit silly how we all pretend to know what has been offered, but I’ll bite on the nonsense. It was rumored there was something around haliburton, Barnes and hield for simmons and Harris (some other pieces involved to make salaries work). I think they have a much better chance of winning the championship this year if they do that trade. And battling Cleveland for the top seed in the east Id obviously just indicative of the bucks and nets having a lot of injury problems this year. They would obviously be significant underdogs against a healthy bucks or nets teams without making any trades. If you disagree you should  definitely make a bet because the 76ers are currently +850 to win the east and an even more wild 20-1 to win the chipZ (I don’t recommend making these bets in general as they are terrible odds). In other words they are wasting a brilliant year from Embid like I originally said. I think a player like Halliburton could really help this year.
Your first thought to NOT bite on the nonsense was correct.  Nobody knows what is really being offered, but more than that, it's only Feb 1 today.  There are nine more days in the stare-down and any decent GM knows not to blink yet and give up something more valuable.  Morey knows this better than anyone so he's sticking to his guns for nine more days.  He doesn't care about wasting a year of prime Embiid.  He wants an elite player in return, but frankly I don't think he'll get one. Simmons just ain't in that category.

Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #1456 on: February 01, 2022, 08:47:55 AM »

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The Sixers look like they are really trying to NOT trade Simmons. They are driving away teams with genuine interest. I have never really seen this before. I guess everyone in Philly is on board with this but it looks like a way to waste an MVP season by Embiid.

Seems like Morey is super confident he can do a sign and trade for harden this summer using simmons. If this is true I think he is undervalueing the cost of wasting this year of Embid.
How is he wasting this year?  The Sixers are only a half game out of 1st in the East.  Maxey has been developing nicely with Simmons not playing.  I haven't seen anything to indicate there is a potential Simmons trade which would move the needle for the Sixers this year.  The potential trading partners have been lowballing the Sixers.

It’s a bit silly how we all pretend to know what has been offered, but I’ll bite on the nonsense. It was rumored there was something around haliburton, Barnes and hield for simmons and Harris (some other pieces involved to make salaries work). I think they have a much better chance of winning the championship this year if they do that trade. And battling Cleveland for the top seed in the east Id obviously just indicative of the bucks and nets having a lot of injury problems this year. They would obviously be significant underdogs against a healthy bucks or nets teams without making any trades. If you disagree you should  definitely make a bet because the 76ers are currently +850 to win the east and an even more wild 20-1 to win the chipZ (I don’t recommend making these bets in general as they are terrible odds). In other words they are wasting a brilliant year from Embid like I originally said. I think a player like Halliburton could really help this year.
Your first thought to NOT bite on the nonsense was correct.  Nobody knows what is really being offered, but more than that, it's only Feb 1 today.  There are nine more days in the stare-down and any decent GM knows not to blink yet and give up something more valuable.  Morey knows this better than anyone so he's sticking to his guns for nine more days.  He doesn't care about wasting a year of prime Embiid.  He wants an elite player in return, but frankly I don't think he'll get one. Simmons just ain't in that category.

No one knows what rumors are real or not.  As to the SAC trade, I read that SAC didn't want Harris (or at least I think I saw that).

The point that PHI wants an elite player is pretty clear.  But is Haliburton elite?  Is Heild or Barnes?  Some seem to think so, I don't.  If they were, SAC would be a good team.  Harden certainly is, even if diminished some with age.  So they have to decide whether to take what is behind door 1 today or wait and hope that maybe they get Harden.  If they do take something now, you can't ignore the opportunity cost associated with that.  I don't think they are crazy to wait, at least if Haliburton and Heild is the best current option.  If it is for Lillard, I would be more interested.

I suspect nothing happens and they end up with Harden.  Just feels like where this is headed.  If they do end up with Harden, hard to call it a bad outcome.  If they wait and don't get Harden (or Lillard or Beal or other elite player), that is different.  Then the criticism will be warranted.

Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #1457 on: February 01, 2022, 07:38:16 PM »

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Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #1458 on: February 01, 2022, 07:39:45 PM »

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Pelicans announcers are kinda interesting.

They got one dude who's got like, a classic, slow, deeper voice. Methodical speaking and sounding kinda oldschool.

And they got Elmo. On crack.

Kinda works and doesn't at the same time :')

Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #1459 on: February 01, 2022, 08:04:25 PM »

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Also, yes, I'm watching Pistons Pelicans and I'm entertained.

Their records;
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Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #1460 on: February 01, 2022, 08:08:07 PM »

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So far Cade is better than I thought he would be.

He is?
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Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #1461 on: February 01, 2022, 09:09:56 PM »

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So far Cade is better than I thought he would be.

He is?

I didn't think he should be the number one pick but he's averaging:

PTS 16.1 REB 5.5 AST 5.4 PER 12.72

That's better than I'd thought he'd do in his rookie year.

Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #1462 on: February 01, 2022, 09:37:27 PM »

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The Sixers look like they are really trying to NOT trade Simmons. They are driving away teams with genuine interest. I have never really seen this before. I guess everyone in Philly is on board with this but it looks like a way to waste an MVP season by Embiid.

Seems like Morey is super confident he can do a sign and trade for harden this summer using simmons. If this is true I think he is undervalueing the cost of wasting this year of Embid.
How is he wasting this year?  The Sixers are only a half game out of 1st in the East.  Maxey has been developing nicely with Simmons not playing.  I haven't seen anything to indicate there is a potential Simmons trade which would move the needle for the Sixers this year.  The potential trading partners have been lowballing the Sixers.

It’s a bit silly how we all pretend to know what has been offered, but I’ll bite on the nonsense. It was rumored there was something around haliburton, Barnes and hield for simmons and Harris (some other pieces involved to make salaries work). I think they have a much better chance of winning the championship this year if they do that trade. And battling Cleveland for the top seed in the east Id obviously just indicative of the bucks and nets having a lot of injury problems this year. They would obviously be significant underdogs against a healthy bucks or nets teams without making any trades. If you disagree you should  definitely make a bet because the 76ers are currently +850 to win the east and an even more wild 20-1 to win the chipZ (I don’t recommend making these bets in general as they are terrible odds). In other words they are wasting a brilliant year from Embid like I originally said. I think a player like Halliburton could really help this year.
Your first thought to NOT bite on the nonsense was correct.  Nobody knows what is really being offered, but more than that, it's only Feb 1 today.  There are nine more days in the stare-down and any decent GM knows not to blink yet and give up something more valuable.  Morey knows this better than anyone so he's sticking to his guns for nine more days.  He doesn't care about wasting a year of prime Embiid.  He wants an elite player in return, but frankly I don't think he'll get one. Simmons just ain't in that category.

No one knows what rumors are real or not.  As to the SAC trade, I read that SAC didn't want Harris (or at least I think I saw that).

The point that PHI wants an elite player is pretty clear.  But is Haliburton elite?  Is Heild or Barnes?  Some seem to think so, I don't.  If they were, SAC would be a good team.  Harden certainly is, even if diminished some with age.  So they have to decide whether to take what is behind door 1 today or wait and hope that maybe they get Harden.  If they do take something now, you can't ignore the opportunity cost associated with that.  I don't think they are crazy to wait, at least if Haliburton and Heild is the best current option.  If it is for Lillard, I would be more interested.

I suspect nothing happens and they end up with Harden.  Just feels like where this is headed.  If they do end up with Harden, hard to call it a bad outcome.  If they wait and don't get Harden (or Lillard or Beal or other elite player), that is different.  Then the criticism will be warranted.
Why would the criticism be warranted?  If there isn't a good trade available that moves the needle for the Sixers, the correct decision is to wait until the offseason regardless of what eventually happens.  Any trade available now is most likely still going to be available in the offseason.

There have been plenty of rumors/reports that the Kings won't trade Haliburton for Simmons.  Even if Simmons and Harris for Haliburton, Hield and Barnes were to be available, I don't think it is a good trade for the Sixers.  Simmons and Harris are the best two players in the trade.  You'd be banking on Haliburton developing to a star level player and doing so quickly.  Hield and Barnes aren't worth much if anything at all. 

Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #1463 on: February 01, 2022, 09:57:13 PM »

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The Sixers look like they are really trying to NOT trade Simmons. They are driving away teams with genuine interest. I have never really seen this before. I guess everyone in Philly is on board with this but it looks like a way to waste an MVP season by Embiid.

Seems like Morey is super confident he can do a sign and trade for harden this summer using simmons. If this is true I think he is undervalueing the cost of wasting this year of Embid.
How is he wasting this year?  The Sixers are only a half game out of 1st in the East.  Maxey has been developing nicely with Simmons not playing.  I haven't seen anything to indicate there is a potential Simmons trade which would move the needle for the Sixers this year.  The potential trading partners have been lowballing the Sixers.

It’s a bit silly how we all pretend to know what has been offered, but I’ll bite on the nonsense. It was rumored there was something around haliburton, Barnes and hield for simmons and Harris (some other pieces involved to make salaries work). I think they have a much better chance of winning the championship this year if they do that trade. And battling Cleveland for the top seed in the east Id obviously just indicative of the bucks and nets having a lot of injury problems this year. They would obviously be significant underdogs against a healthy bucks or nets teams without making any trades. If you disagree you should  definitely make a bet because the 76ers are currently +850 to win the east and an even more wild 20-1 to win the chipZ (I don’t recommend making these bets in general as they are terrible odds). In other words they are wasting a brilliant year from Embid like I originally said. I think a player like Halliburton could really help this year.
Your first thought to NOT bite on the nonsense was correct.  Nobody knows what is really being offered, but more than that, it's only Feb 1 today.  There are nine more days in the stare-down and any decent GM knows not to blink yet and give up something more valuable.  Morey knows this better than anyone so he's sticking to his guns for nine more days.  He doesn't care about wasting a year of prime Embiid.  He wants an elite player in return, but frankly I don't think he'll get one. Simmons just ain't in that category.

No one knows what rumors are real or not.  As to the SAC trade, I read that SAC didn't want Harris (or at least I think I saw that).

The point that PHI wants an elite player is pretty clear.  But is Haliburton elite?  Is Heild or Barnes?  Some seem to think so, I don't.  If they were, SAC would be a good team.  Harden certainly is, even if diminished some with age.  So they have to decide whether to take what is behind door 1 today or wait and hope that maybe they get Harden.  If they do take something now, you can't ignore the opportunity cost associated with that.  I don't think they are crazy to wait, at least if Haliburton and Heild is the best current option.  If it is for Lillard, I would be more interested.

I suspect nothing happens and they end up with Harden.  Just feels like where this is headed.  If they do end up with Harden, hard to call it a bad outcome.  If they wait and don't get Harden (or Lillard or Beal or other elite player), that is different.  Then the criticism will be warranted.
Why would the criticism be warranted?  If there isn't a good trade available that moves the needle for the Sixers, the correct decision is to wait until the offseason regardless of what eventually happens.  Any trade available now is most likely still going to be available in the offseason.

There have been plenty of rumors/reports that the Kings won't trade Haliburton for Simmons.  Even if Simmons and Harris for Haliburton, Hield and Barnes were to be available, I don't think it is a good trade for the Sixers.  Simmons and Harris are the best two players in the trade.  You'd be banking on Haliburton developing to a star level player and doing so quickly.  Hield and Barnes aren't worth much if anything at all.

Because they will have misjudged the market for Ben Simmons and failed to maximize a great Embiid season as a result

Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #1464 on: February 01, 2022, 10:12:27 PM »

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The Sixers look like they are really trying to NOT trade Simmons. They are driving away teams with genuine interest. I have never really seen this before. I guess everyone in Philly is on board with this but it looks like a way to waste an MVP season by Embiid.

Seems like Morey is super confident he can do a sign and trade for harden this summer using simmons. If this is true I think he is undervalueing the cost of wasting this year of Embid.
How is he wasting this year?  The Sixers are only a half game out of 1st in the East.  Maxey has been developing nicely with Simmons not playing.  I haven't seen anything to indicate there is a potential Simmons trade which would move the needle for the Sixers this year.  The potential trading partners have been lowballing the Sixers.

It’s a bit silly how we all pretend to know what has been offered, but I’ll bite on the nonsense. It was rumored there was something around haliburton, Barnes and hield for simmons and Harris (some other pieces involved to make salaries work). I think they have a much better chance of winning the championship this year if they do that trade. And battling Cleveland for the top seed in the east Id obviously just indicative of the bucks and nets having a lot of injury problems this year. They would obviously be significant underdogs against a healthy bucks or nets teams without making any trades. If you disagree you should  definitely make a bet because the 76ers are currently +850 to win the east and an even more wild 20-1 to win the chipZ (I don’t recommend making these bets in general as they are terrible odds). In other words they are wasting a brilliant year from Embid like I originally said. I think a player like Halliburton could really help this year.
Your first thought to NOT bite on the nonsense was correct.  Nobody knows what is really being offered, but more than that, it's only Feb 1 today.  There are nine more days in the stare-down and any decent GM knows not to blink yet and give up something more valuable.  Morey knows this better than anyone so he's sticking to his guns for nine more days.  He doesn't care about wasting a year of prime Embiid.  He wants an elite player in return, but frankly I don't think he'll get one. Simmons just ain't in that category.

No one knows what rumors are real or not.  As to the SAC trade, I read that SAC didn't want Harris (or at least I think I saw that).

The point that PHI wants an elite player is pretty clear.  But is Haliburton elite?  Is Heild or Barnes?  Some seem to think so, I don't.  If they were, SAC would be a good team.  Harden certainly is, even if diminished some with age.  So they have to decide whether to take what is behind door 1 today or wait and hope that maybe they get Harden.  If they do take something now, you can't ignore the opportunity cost associated with that.  I don't think they are crazy to wait, at least if Haliburton and Heild is the best current option.  If it is for Lillard, I would be more interested.

I suspect nothing happens and they end up with Harden.  Just feels like where this is headed.  If they do end up with Harden, hard to call it a bad outcome.  If they wait and don't get Harden (or Lillard or Beal or other elite player), that is different.  Then the criticism will be warranted.
Why would the criticism be warranted?  If there isn't a good trade available that moves the needle for the Sixers, the correct decision is to wait until the offseason regardless of what eventually happens.  Any trade available now is most likely still going to be available in the offseason.

There have been plenty of rumors/reports that the Kings won't trade Haliburton for Simmons.  Even if Simmons and Harris for Haliburton, Hield and Barnes were to be available, I don't think it is a good trade for the Sixers.  Simmons and Harris are the best two players in the trade.  You'd be banking on Haliburton developing to a star level player and doing so quickly.  Hield and Barnes aren't worth much if anything at all.

Because they will have misjudged the market for Ben Simmons and failed to maximize a great Embiid season as a result

Well said. With a center that has had his fair share of injuries, you have to maximize every healthy season.

Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #1465 on: February 01, 2022, 11:13:55 PM »

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It’s real weird to view this as “if he hasn’t been traded it means nobody good has been offered.” There have been lots of reports of teams just hanging up on Morey cause he asked for ridiculous things. This has been the case going back to his time Houston (reputation wise).

Also haliburton being made available was pretty widely reported https://www.libertyballers.com/platform/amp/2022/1/5/22868708/report-kings-deaaron-fox-tyrese-haliburton-available-nba-trade-rumors-sixers-ben-simmons

I realize most people don’t see a lot of kings basketball cause they stink and are on west coast, but haliburton is really good. Him and maxey would be a great backcourt tandem.

Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #1466 on: February 01, 2022, 11:23:33 PM »

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It’s real weird to view this as “if he hasn’t been traded it means nobody good has been offered.” There have been lots of reports of teams just hanging up on Morey cause he asked for ridiculous things. This has been the case going back to his time Houston (reputation wise).

Also haliburton being made available was pretty widely reported https://www.libertyballers.com/platform/amp/2022/1/5/22868708/report-kings-deaaron-fox-tyrese-haliburton-available-nba-trade-rumors-sixers-ben-simmons

I realize most people don’t see a lot of kings basketball cause they stink and are on west coast, but haliburton is really good. Him and maxey would be a great backcourt tandem.

I don't believe that Morey is operating in good faith.

Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #1467 on: February 01, 2022, 11:26:46 PM »

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If the Sixers goal is to win the title in the next season or two, then Haliburton, Barnes, and Hield for Simmons and Harris is not going to accomplish that.  Sure, they'd be better than they are without Simmons, but they'd actually be worse then they'd be with Simmons and certainly much worse than if they landed someone like Harden.  That is the reason they haven't made that type of trade as it doesn't really get them into surefire championship range.  They'd still rely so much on Embiid and Harris is actually a better scorer than any of those Sacramento players so they'd be worse there as well.  Haliburton could eventually be a real star capable of being a #2 guy, but that is years down the road and Embiid may not be a #1 guy at that time.  Barnes and Hield are fine players, but they aren't elevating a team into contention
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Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #1468 on: February 02, 2022, 12:39:00 AM »

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The Sixers look like they are really trying to NOT trade Simmons. They are driving away teams with genuine interest. I have never really seen this before. I guess everyone in Philly is on board with this but it looks like a way to waste an MVP season by Embiid.

Seems like Morey is super confident he can do a sign and trade for harden this summer using simmons. If this is true I think he is undervalueing the cost of wasting this year of Embid.
How is he wasting this year?  The Sixers are only a half game out of 1st in the East.  Maxey has been developing nicely with Simmons not playing.  I haven't seen anything to indicate there is a potential Simmons trade which would move the needle for the Sixers this year.  The potential trading partners have been lowballing the Sixers.

It’s a bit silly how we all pretend to know what has been offered, but I’ll bite on the nonsense. It was rumored there was something around haliburton, Barnes and hield for simmons and Harris (some other pieces involved to make salaries work). I think they have a much better chance of winning the championship this year if they do that trade. And battling Cleveland for the top seed in the east Id obviously just indicative of the bucks and nets having a lot of injury problems this year. They would obviously be significant underdogs against a healthy bucks or nets teams without making any trades. If you disagree you should  definitely make a bet because the 76ers are currently +850 to win the east and an even more wild 20-1 to win the chipZ (I don’t recommend making these bets in general as they are terrible odds). In other words they are wasting a brilliant year from Embid like I originally said. I think a player like Halliburton could really help this year.
Your first thought to NOT bite on the nonsense was correct.  Nobody knows what is really being offered, but more than that, it's only Feb 1 today.  There are nine more days in the stare-down and any decent GM knows not to blink yet and give up something more valuable.  Morey knows this better than anyone so he's sticking to his guns for nine more days.  He doesn't care about wasting a year of prime Embiid.  He wants an elite player in return, but frankly I don't think he'll get one. Simmons just ain't in that category.

No one knows what rumors are real or not.  As to the SAC trade, I read that SAC didn't want Harris (or at least I think I saw that).

The point that PHI wants an elite player is pretty clear.  But is Haliburton elite?  Is Heild or Barnes?  Some seem to think so, I don't.  If they were, SAC would be a good team.  Harden certainly is, even if diminished some with age.  So they have to decide whether to take what is behind door 1 today or wait and hope that maybe they get Harden.  If they do take something now, you can't ignore the opportunity cost associated with that.  I don't think they are crazy to wait, at least if Haliburton and Heild is the best current option.  If it is for Lillard, I would be more interested.

I suspect nothing happens and they end up with Harden.  Just feels like where this is headed.  If they do end up with Harden, hard to call it a bad outcome.  If they wait and don't get Harden (or Lillard or Beal or other elite player), that is different.  Then the criticism will be warranted.
Why would the criticism be warranted?  If there isn't a good trade available that moves the needle for the Sixers, the correct decision is to wait until the offseason regardless of what eventually happens.  Any trade available now is most likely still going to be available in the offseason.

There have been plenty of rumors/reports that the Kings won't trade Haliburton for Simmons.  Even if Simmons and Harris for Haliburton, Hield and Barnes were to be available, I don't think it is a good trade for the Sixers.  Simmons and Harris are the best two players in the trade.  You'd be banking on Haliburton developing to a star level player and doing so quickly.  Hield and Barnes aren't worth much if anything at all.

Because they will have misjudged the market for Ben Simmons and failed to maximize a great Embiid season as a result

Well said. With a center that has had his fair share of injuries, you have to maximize every healthy season.
You guys sound like you're playing NBA2K.  You can't maximize every season in real life.  Bad trades and even mediocre trades set you back. 

Also, trades at the deadline rarely make a significant positive impact.  The ones that do are smaller role player trades to fill a gap.  What's the last big trade at the deadline that actually made a difference for that season?  Thinking that a Simmons and Harris for Haliburton, Barnes and Hield trade would make a positive difference is truly video game thinking.  Even if that was actually a good trade which I don't think it is, you can't incorporate that much change in less than half a season to become a championship contender.     

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« Reply #1469 on: February 02, 2022, 01:05:11 AM »

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The Sixers look like they are really trying to NOT trade Simmons. They are driving away teams with genuine interest. I have never really seen this before. I guess everyone in Philly is on board with this but it looks like a way to waste an MVP season by Embiid.

Seems like Morey is super confident he can do a sign and trade for harden this summer using simmons. If this is true I think he is undervalueing the cost of wasting this year of Embid.
How is he wasting this year?  The Sixers are only a half game out of 1st in the East.  Maxey has been developing nicely with Simmons not playing.  I haven't seen anything to indicate there is a potential Simmons trade which would move the needle for the Sixers this year.  The potential trading partners have been lowballing the Sixers.

It’s a bit silly how we all pretend to know what has been offered, but I’ll bite on the nonsense. It was rumored there was something around haliburton, Barnes and hield for simmons and Harris (some other pieces involved to make salaries work). I think they have a much better chance of winning the championship this year if they do that trade. And battling Cleveland for the top seed in the east Id obviously just indicative of the bucks and nets having a lot of injury problems this year. They would obviously be significant underdogs against a healthy bucks or nets teams without making any trades. If you disagree you should  definitely make a bet because the 76ers are currently +850 to win the east and an even more wild 20-1 to win the chipZ (I don’t recommend making these bets in general as they are terrible odds). In other words they are wasting a brilliant year from Embid like I originally said. I think a player like Halliburton could really help this year.
Your first thought to NOT bite on the nonsense was correct.  Nobody knows what is really being offered, but more than that, it's only Feb 1 today.  There are nine more days in the stare-down and any decent GM knows not to blink yet and give up something more valuable.  Morey knows this better than anyone so he's sticking to his guns for nine more days.  He doesn't care about wasting a year of prime Embiid.  He wants an elite player in return, but frankly I don't think he'll get one. Simmons just ain't in that category.

No one knows what rumors are real or not.  As to the SAC trade, I read that SAC didn't want Harris (or at least I think I saw that).

The point that PHI wants an elite player is pretty clear.  But is Haliburton elite?  Is Heild or Barnes?  Some seem to think so, I don't.  If they were, SAC would be a good team.  Harden certainly is, even if diminished some with age.  So they have to decide whether to take what is behind door 1 today or wait and hope that maybe they get Harden.  If they do take something now, you can't ignore the opportunity cost associated with that.  I don't think they are crazy to wait, at least if Haliburton and Heild is the best current option.  If it is for Lillard, I would be more interested.

I suspect nothing happens and they end up with Harden.  Just feels like where this is headed.  If they do end up with Harden, hard to call it a bad outcome.  If they wait and don't get Harden (or Lillard or Beal or other elite player), that is different.  Then the criticism will be warranted.
Why would the criticism be warranted?  If there isn't a good trade available that moves the needle for the Sixers, the correct decision is to wait until the offseason regardless of what eventually happens.  Any trade available now is most likely still going to be available in the offseason.

There have been plenty of rumors/reports that the Kings won't trade Haliburton for Simmons.  Even if Simmons and Harris for Haliburton, Hield and Barnes were to be available, I don't think it is a good trade for the Sixers.  Simmons and Harris are the best two players in the trade.  You'd be banking on Haliburton developing to a star level player and doing so quickly.  Hield and Barnes aren't worth much if anything at all.

Because they will have misjudged the market for Ben Simmons and failed to maximize a great Embiid season as a result

Well said. With a center that has had his fair share of injuries, you have to maximize every healthy season.
You guys sound like you're playing NBA2K.  You can't maximize every season in real life.  Bad trades and even mediocre trades set you back. 

Also, trades at the deadline rarely make a significant positive impact.  The ones that do are smaller role player trades to fill a gap.  What's the last big trade at the deadline that actually made a difference for that season?  Thinking that a Simmons and Harris for Haliburton, Barnes and Hield trade would make a positive difference is truly video game thinking.  Even if that was actually a good trade which I don't think it is, you can't incorporate that much change in less than half a season to become a championship contender.     

You really oddly defend the 76ers. What has Morey done in his career to suggest he is really a brilliant gm that will make the right deal. He traded Paul for Westbrook. He gave away Westbrook for nothing. He didn’t take jarret Allen for free when he traded harden. His one clear good move as a gm was trading for harden. Embid is in his eighth year and about to turn 28. The deal with the kings wouldn’t just help this year, haliburton is dramatically improving each year and could be an all star next season. He is that good. Get away from the train wreck of playing next to the ball dominant low efficiency fox and horrible coaching he is going to look a lot different. You can for whatever reason act like there is no chance Morey is possibly making a wrong move or misjudging the market, but it’s clearly a very distinct possibility. Especially judging from his history of trades.