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Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #1005 on: December 26, 2021, 06:30:20 PM »

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Lakers lost to the Nets at home..awesome!
Westbrick with a triple double on 4-20 field goals! The Lakers were -23 with him on the floor. He's the epitome of an empty stats player! Not to mention, he's a terrible fit next to LeBron cause they both need the ball in their hands. Lol at the Fakers for making the most idiotic trade of the offseason! ;D

Who knows if it is actually true, but it has been widely reported AD and Lebron pushed Pelinka to get Westbrook instead of Buddy Hield. This team would be in such a better position with Hield. I am loving it though (and it has made it mildly hilarious to watch lebron fans try and use randoms stats/arguments to why the Lakers may be headed towards the lottery but Lebron is still in near peak form). I just hope we are not in the lottery with them.

https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/1442915407963123712

Do they have their draft pick this year?

I asked the same question a week ago and someone mentioned that the Lakers’ pick for this year was included in the AD trade.

Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #1006 on: December 26, 2021, 06:34:14 PM »

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Lakers lost to the Nets at home..awesome!
Westbrick with a triple double on 4-20 field goals! The Lakers were -23 with him on the floor. He's the epitome of an empty stats player! Not to mention, he's a terrible fit next to LeBron cause they both need the ball in their hands. Lol at the Fakers for making the most idiotic trade of the offseason! ;D

Who knows if it is actually true, but it has been widely reported AD and Lebron pushed Pelinka to get Westbrook instead of Buddy Hield. This team would be in such a better position with Hield. I am loving it though (and it has made it mildly hilarious to watch lebron fans try and use randoms stats/arguments to why the Lakers may be headed towards the lottery but Lebron is still in near peak form). I just hope we are not in the lottery with them.

https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/1442915407963123712

Do they have their draft pick this year?

I asked the same question a week ago and someone mentioned that the Lakers’ pick for this year was included in the AD trade.

I think last year they had to give it up only if it was 1-8 and if not the pelicans get their draft pick this year.  I believe the Lakers draft pick was involved in the Westbrook trade.  I'm just not 100% sure.

Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #1007 on: December 26, 2021, 07:04:14 PM »

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The Lakers were -17 in the 8 minutes James was on the bench and in CC's world that makes the loss James' fault.

Can you stop with the nonsense man? Saying Lebron is no longer a top ten player, how does that in your eyes equate to me saying it was "his fault." Tatum could have a good game and the celtics could still lose a close one, and i may say this shows Tatum is not at an mvp level right now cause he could have taken over the game, but it would have nothing to do with whether I had an opinion on whether the loss was his fault. And just to clarify, I DO NOT, think the loss was his fault. He couldn't make a great defensive play at the end of the game that he would have possibly made when he was younger and better, but the game was not lost on that play. For the 1047 time, Please respond to what I actually say and stop the nonsense. And since i guess I have to just ask you super direct questions to avoid you trying to derail the conversation. Where do you rank Lebron James as a player this year?

Top 3? Top 5? Top 10? Top 20?
I'm confused, what were you trying to say in this post?

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This doesn’t really explain why the lakers lost at home to a team led by harden mills and claxton. Are you arguing that out of shape harden is better than James? I haven't had Harden in the top 10 because of his physical conditioning, but I guess he probably is. One of the things that was a huge difference in the past was on display last night on the defensive end. Lebron has made so many famous amazing defensive plays and blocks, but just couldn't get up high enough on the defensive end and Claxton dunked it over him for the and one to essentially end the game.

The Lakers lost at home because they are terrible without James in the game.  -17 in 8 minutes.  That is why they lost.  That also pretty clearly shows how valuable James is to the Lakers and how good James actually still is.  James is pretty clearly a top 10 player in the league this year and it is pretty easy to argue he is a top 5 player. 

He isn't eligible yet but if he was he'd be tied with Giannis for 3rd in ppg.  His 6.5 apg would be tied with Holiday for 15th.  His 1.7 apg is tied for 11th with Melton.  His eFG% and TS% are both the best they've been as Lakers (both just outside of the top 20).   His PER is tied for 9th.  His VORP is tied for 8th.  He is 6th in BPM (7th in OBPM).  Per 100 possessions the Lakers are +1.3 with Lebron and are 6.6 points worse per 100 possessions without him in the game.  Overall on the season, the Lakers have been outscored by 79 points (but are +16 with James so -95 without him). 

James is not the problem with the Lakers.
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Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #1008 on: December 26, 2021, 08:34:11 PM »

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Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #1009 on: December 26, 2021, 08:34:28 PM »

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The Lakers were -17 in the 8 minutes James was on the bench and in CC's world that makes the loss James' fault.

Can you stop with the nonsense man? Saying Lebron is no longer a top ten player, how does that in your eyes equate to me saying it was "his fault." Tatum could have a good game and the celtics could still lose a close one, and i may say this shows Tatum is not at an mvp level right now cause he could have taken over the game, but it would have nothing to do with whether I had an opinion on whether the loss was his fault. And just to clarify, I DO NOT, think the loss was his fault. He couldn't make a great defensive play at the end of the game that he would have possibly made when he was younger and better, but the game was not lost on that play. For the 1047 time, Please respond to what I actually say and stop the nonsense. And since i guess I have to just ask you super direct questions to avoid you trying to derail the conversation. Where do you rank Lebron James as a player this year?

Top 3? Top 5? Top 10? Top 20?
I'm confused, what were you trying to say in this post?

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This doesn’t really explain why the lakers lost at home to a team led by harden mills and claxton. Are you arguing that out of shape harden is better than James? I haven't had Harden in the top 10 because of his physical conditioning, but I guess he probably is. One of the things that was a huge difference in the past was on display last night on the defensive end. Lebron has made so many famous amazing defensive plays and blocks, but just couldn't get up high enough on the defensive end and Claxton dunked it over him for the and one to essentially end the game.

The Lakers lost at home because they are terrible without James in the game.  -17 in 8 minutes.  That is why they lost.  That also pretty clearly shows how valuable James is to the Lakers and how good James actually still is.  James is pretty clearly a top 10 player in the league this year and it is pretty easy to argue he is a top 5 player. 

He isn't eligible yet but if he was he'd be tied with Giannis for 3rd in ppg.  His 6.5 apg would be tied with Holiday for 15th.  His 1.7 apg is tied for 11th with Melton.  His eFG% and TS% are both the best they've been as Lakers (both just outside of the top 20).   His PER is tied for 9th.  His VORP is tied for 8th.  He is 6th in BPM (7th in OBPM).  Per 100 possessions the Lakers are +1.3 with Lebron and are 6.6 points worse per 100 possessions without him in the game.  Overall on the season, the Lakers have been outscored by 79 points (but are +16 with James so -95 without him). 

James is not the problem with the Lakers.

You follow Cavs closely. Could  you see situation where Lebron finds a way back there through trade demand? If so, would Cavs have any interest? I assume Mobley and Garland are untouchable.  Bill Simmons has been floating this idea for a couple of weeks.

Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #1010 on: December 26, 2021, 09:21:43 PM »

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The Lakers were -17 in the 8 minutes James was on the bench and in CC's world that makes the loss James' fault.

Can you stop with the nonsense man? Saying Lebron is no longer a top ten player, how does that in your eyes equate to me saying it was "his fault." Tatum could have a good game and the celtics could still lose a close one, and i may say this shows Tatum is not at an mvp level right now cause he could have taken over the game, but it would have nothing to do with whether I had an opinion on whether the loss was his fault. And just to clarify, I DO NOT, think the loss was his fault. He couldn't make a great defensive play at the end of the game that he would have possibly made when he was younger and better, but the game was not lost on that play. For the 1047 time, Please respond to what I actually say and stop the nonsense. And since i guess I have to just ask you super direct questions to avoid you trying to derail the conversation. Where do you rank Lebron James as a player this year?

Top 3? Top 5? Top 10? Top 20?
I'm confused, what were you trying to say in this post?

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This doesn’t really explain why the lakers lost at home to a team led by harden mills and claxton. Are you arguing that out of shape harden is better than James? I haven't had Harden in the top 10 because of his physical conditioning, but I guess he probably is. One of the things that was a huge difference in the past was on display last night on the defensive end. Lebron has made so many famous amazing defensive plays and blocks, but just couldn't get up high enough on the defensive end and Claxton dunked it over him for the and one to essentially end the game.

The Lakers lost at home because they are terrible without James in the game.  -17 in 8 minutes.  That is why they lost.  That also pretty clearly shows how valuable James is to the Lakers and how good James actually still is.  James is pretty clearly a top 10 player in the league this year and it is pretty easy to argue he is a top 5 player. 

He isn't eligible yet but if he was he'd be tied with Giannis for 3rd in ppg.  His 6.5 apg would be tied with Holiday for 15th.  His 1.7 apg is tied for 11th with Melton.  His eFG% and TS% are both the best they've been as Lakers (both just outside of the top 20).   His PER is tied for 9th.  His VORP is tied for 8th.  He is 6th in BPM (7th in OBPM).  Per 100 possessions the Lakers are +1.3 with Lebron and are 6.6 points worse per 100 possessions without him in the game.  Overall on the season, the Lakers have been outscored by 79 points (but are +16 with James so -95 without him). 

James is not the problem with the Lakers.

You follow Cavs closely. Could  you see situation where Lebron finds a way back there through trade demand? If so, would Cavs have any interest? I assume Mobley and Garland are untouchable.  Bill Simmons has been floating this idea for a couple of weeks.
Nope.  I can't see James playing for another team in his career unless his son makes the league when he is still playing.  I could absolutely see him wanting to play with his son.  Someone else that follows the Lakers also theorized that if James is serious about wanting to own a NBA team, that he might join that team for a season or two to help make that happen (since the Lakers are extremely unlikely for that, both given the owners and the value/cost of the team).  I don't think that is all that likely, but I suppose it could happen.  Remember when James went to the Lakers they were a crappy lottery team, he didn't go there only to win titles, and that hasn't changed especially now that his family has more roots in LA and his businesses are really thriving there. 
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Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #1011 on: December 27, 2021, 04:38:49 AM »

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Lakers lost to the Nets at home..awesome!
Westbrick with a triple double on 4-20 field goals! The Lakers were -23 with him on the floor. He's the epitome of an empty stats player! Not to mention, he's a terrible fit next to LeBron cause they both need the ball in their hands. Lol at the Fakers for making the most idiotic trade of the offseason! ;D

Who knows if it is actually true, but it has been widely reported AD and Lebron pushed Pelinka to get Westbrook instead of Buddy Hield. This team would be in such a better position with Hield. I am loving it though (and it has made it mildly hilarious to watch lebron fans try and use randoms stats/arguments to why the Lakers may be headed towards the lottery but Lebron is still in near peak form). I just hope we are not in the lottery with them.

https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/1442915407963123712

Do they have their draft pick this year?

I asked the same question a week ago and someone mentioned that the Lakers’ pick for this year was included in the AD trade.

I think last year they had to give it up only if it was 1-8 and if not the pelicans get their draft pick this year.  I believe the Lakers draft pick was involved in the Westbrook trade.  I'm just not 100% sure.
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Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #1012 on: December 27, 2021, 04:42:26 AM »

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The Lakers were -17 in the 8 minutes James was on the bench and in CC's world that makes the loss James' fault.

Can you stop with the nonsense man? Saying Lebron is no longer a top ten player, how does that in your eyes equate to me saying it was "his fault." Tatum could have a good game and the celtics could still lose a close one, and i may say this shows Tatum is not at an mvp level right now cause he could have taken over the game, but it would have nothing to do with whether I had an opinion on whether the loss was his fault. And just to clarify, I DO NOT, think the loss was his fault. He couldn't make a great defensive play at the end of the game that he would have possibly made when he was younger and better, but the game was not lost on that play. For the 1047 time, Please respond to what I actually say and stop the nonsense. And since i guess I have to just ask you super direct questions to avoid you trying to derail the conversation. Where do you rank Lebron James as a player this year?

Top 3? Top 5? Top 10? Top 20?
I'm confused, what were you trying to say in this post?

Quote
This doesn’t really explain why the lakers lost at home to a team led by harden mills and claxton. Are you arguing that out of shape harden is better than James? I haven't had Harden in the top 10 because of his physical conditioning, but I guess he probably is. One of the things that was a huge difference in the past was on display last night on the defensive end. Lebron has made so many famous amazing defensive plays and blocks, but just couldn't get up high enough on the defensive end and Claxton dunked it over him for the and one to essentially end the game.

The Lakers lost at home because they are terrible without James in the game.  -17 in 8 minutes.  That is why they lost.  That also pretty clearly shows how valuable James is to the Lakers and how good James actually still is.  James is pretty clearly a top 10 player in the league this year and it is pretty easy to argue he is a top 5 player. 

He isn't eligible yet but if he was he'd be tied with Giannis for 3rd in ppg.  His 6.5 apg would be tied with Holiday for 15th.  His 1.7 apg is tied for 11th with Melton.  His eFG% and TS% are both the best they've been as Lakers (both just outside of the top 20).   His PER is tied for 9th.  His VORP is tied for 8th.  He is 6th in BPM (7th in OBPM).  Per 100 possessions the Lakers are +1.3 with Lebron and are 6.6 points worse per 100 possessions without him in the game.  Overall on the season, the Lakers have been outscored by 79 points (but are +16 with James so -95 without him). 

James is not the problem with the Lakers.

You follow Cavs closely. Could  you see situation where Lebron finds a way back there through trade demand? If so, would Cavs have any interest? I assume Mobley and Garland are untouchable.  Bill Simmons has been floating this idea for a couple of weeks.
Nope.  I can't see James playing for another team in his career unless his son makes the league when he is still playing.  I could absolutely see him wanting to play with his son.  Someone else that follows the Lakers also theorized that if James is serious about wanting to own a NBA team, that he might join that team for a season or two to help make that happen (since the Lakers are extremely unlikely for that, both given the owners and the value/cost of the team).  I don't think that is all that likely, but I suppose it could happen.  Remember when James went to the Lakers they were a crappy lottery team, he didn't go there only to win titles, and that hasn't changed especially now that his family has more roots in LA and his businesses are really thriving there.

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Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #1013 on: December 27, 2021, 08:27:12 AM »

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The Lakers were -17 in the 8 minutes James was on the bench and in CC's world that makes the loss James' fault.

Can you stop with the nonsense man? Saying Lebron is no longer a top ten player, how does that in your eyes equate to me saying it was "his fault." Tatum could have a good game and the celtics could still lose a close one, and i may say this shows Tatum is not at an mvp level right now cause he could have taken over the game, but it would have nothing to do with whether I had an opinion on whether the loss was his fault. And just to clarify, I DO NOT, think the loss was his fault. He couldn't make a great defensive play at the end of the game that he would have possibly made when he was younger and better, but the game was not lost on that play. For the 1047 time, Please respond to what I actually say and stop the nonsense. And since i guess I have to just ask you super direct questions to avoid you trying to derail the conversation. Where do you rank Lebron James as a player this year?

Top 3? Top 5? Top 10? Top 20?
I'm confused, what were you trying to say in this post?

Quote
This doesn’t really explain why the lakers lost at home to a team led by harden mills and claxton. Are you arguing that out of shape harden is better than James? I haven't had Harden in the top 10 because of his physical conditioning, but I guess he probably is. One of the things that was a huge difference in the past was on display last night on the defensive end. Lebron has made so many famous amazing defensive plays and blocks, but just couldn't get up high enough on the defensive end and Claxton dunked it over him for the and one to essentially end the game.

The Lakers lost at home because they are terrible without James in the game.  -17 in 8 minutes.  That is why they lost.  That also pretty clearly shows how valuable James is to the Lakers and how good James actually still is.  James is pretty clearly a top 10 player in the league this year and it is pretty easy to argue he is a top 5 player

He isn't eligible yet but if he was he'd be tied with Giannis for 3rd in ppg.  His 6.5 apg would be tied with Holiday for 15th.  His 1.7 apg is tied for 11th with Melton.  His eFG% and TS% are both the best they've been as Lakers (both just outside of the top 20).   His PER is tied for 9th.  His VORP is tied for 8th.  He is 6th in BPM (7th in OBPM).  Per 100 possessions the Lakers are +1.3 with Lebron and are 6.6 points worse per 100 possessions without him in the game.  Overall on the season, the Lakers have been outscored by 79 points (but are +16 with James so -95 without him). 

James is not the problem with the Lakers.

You follow Cavs closely. Could  you see situation where Lebron finds a way back there through trade demand? If so, would Cavs have any interest? I assume Mobley and Garland are untouchable.  Bill Simmons has been floating this idea for a couple of weeks.
Nope.  I can't see James playing for another team in his career unless his son makes the league when he is still playing.  I could absolutely see him wanting to play with his son.  Someone else that follows the Lakers also theorized that if James is serious about wanting to own a NBA team, that he might join that team for a season or two to help make that happen (since the Lakers are extremely unlikely for that, both given the owners and the value/cost of the team).  I don't think that is all that likely, but I suppose it could happen.  Remember when James went to the Lakers they were a crappy lottery team, he didn't go there only to win titles, and that hasn't changed especially now that his family has more roots in LA and his businesses are really thriving there.

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I answered your question.  Perhaps it is you that has trouble reading and comprehending.
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Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #1014 on: December 27, 2021, 10:49:12 AM »

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Re: NBA Season 2021-22
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Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #1016 on: December 27, 2021, 10:59:10 AM »

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Sucks.  Now the losses will really pile up.
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Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #1017 on: December 27, 2021, 11:02:28 AM »

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Re: NBA Season 2021-22
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Re: NBA Season 2021-22
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