Report: Schroder Signs With Celts

[Roy H.]

No other teammate of Lebron's is really considered a plus ball handler and certainly none of them can pass like Westbrook

Wade was a very good ball handler.  I suspect if he hunted triple doubles like Westbrook he could have put up similar stats.

[Moranis]

No other teammate of Lebron's is really considered a plus ball handler and certainly none of them can pass like Westbrook

Wade was a very good ball handler.  I suspect if he hunted triple doubles like Westbrook he could have put up similar stats.

Wade was very good for a SG, but not anywhere close to what a solid PG can provide. 

[jay]

  It makes no sense to me to bring in Schroder unless we have a plan to trade Smart (hopefully for a good young PF).
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Just because I like to daydream about this stuff…

Sign Schroder.  On January 15, trade Smart + Timelord + Romeo + picks for John Collins.

How good would this core be long-term?

Collins
Tatum
Brown
Nesmith
Schroder / Pritchard

I'd rather take a flyer on someone like Bagley.  Bagley for Smart works financially.

Could we move Jabari, Dunn, and Fernando for Bagley?  Seems like they are trying to give him away.  Then still sign Schröder to MLE?

[trickybilly]

  It makes no sense to me to bring in Schroder unless we have a plan to trade Smart (hopefully for a good young PF).
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Just because I like to daydream about this stuff…

Sign Schroder.  On January 15, trade Smart + Timelord + Romeo + picks for John Collins.

How good would this core be long-term?

Collins
Tatum
Brown
Nesmith
Schroder / Pritchard

I'd rather take a flyer on someone like Bagley.  Bagley for Smart works financially.

Could we move Jabari, Dunn, and Fernando for Bagley?  Seems like they are trying to give him away.  Then still sign Schröder to MLE?

Where did you hear they are trying to give away Bagley?

[gouki88]

  It makes no sense to me to bring in Schroder unless we have a plan to trade Smart (hopefully for a good young PF).
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Just because I like to daydream about this stuff…

Sign Schroder.  On January 15, trade Smart + Timelord + Romeo + picks for John Collins.

How good would this core be long-term?

Collins
Tatum
Brown
Nesmith
Schroder / Pritchard

I'd rather take a flyer on someone like Bagley.  Bagley for Smart works financially.

Could we move Jabari, Dunn, and Fernando for Bagley?  Seems like they are trying to give him away.  Then still sign Schröder to MLE?

Where did you hear they are trying to give away Bagley?

It's a good question. Have heard plenty about Bagley wanting out - little about Sacramento being desperate to dump him.

[jay]

This was one mention:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/seandeveney/2021/07/30/another-failed-trade-keeps-sacramento-kings-future-cloudy/

[Moranis]

This was one mention:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/seandeveney/2021/07/30/another-failed-trade-keeps-sacramento-kings-future-cloudy/

I think they used give away in not the same manner you are using it.  Bagley and Hield are absolutely on the block, but they aren't just going to dump them for nothing, which is why they are both still in Sacramento.  They want value for them and aren't going to trade them for basically a bucket of basketballs.

[jay]

Probably so.  Also the fact that he or his dad were on twitter wanting out, Fox’s dad tweeting at Bagley dad, seemed like they really want to move him.  Maybe Dunn and filler not enough though.

[BruceBanner18]

  It makes no sense to me to bring in Schroder unless we have a plan to trade Smart (hopefully for a good young PF).
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Just because I like to daydream about this stuff…

Sign Schroder.  On January 15, trade Smart + Timelord + Romeo + picks for John Collins.

How good would this core be long-term?

Collins
Tatum
Brown
Nesmith
Schroder / Pritchard

I'd rather take a flyer on someone like Bagley.  Bagley for Smart works financially.

Could we move Jabari, Dunn, and Fernando for Bagley?  Seems like they are trying to give him away.  Then still sign Schröder to MLE?

Speaking of young underperforming PFs what is happening with Markkanen. Can we low-ball our way into a rotation ready stretch 4?

[jambr380]

Speaking of young underperforming PFs what is happening with Markkanen. Can we low-ball our way into a rotation ready stretch 4?

There is this from Bleacher Report:

[Fischer] Dallas, New Orleans, Boston, and Minnesota have all shown interest in signing Markkanen to deals worth around $15 million in average annual value, sources said, but the Bulls are seeking a first-round pick in exchange for helping facilitate the transaction.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2947075-inside-chicago-bulls-85-million-demar-derozan-deal-and-markkanen-freeze-out

Not sure I want Markkanen at $15M/yr, but interesting that the Cs were mentioned. Also, at the end of the article (and since this is a Schroder thread), there was this...whatever it means:

The Celtics are exploring trade opportunities for point guard Kris Dunn and forward Bruno Fernando before concluding conversations with free agent Dennis Schroder.

[Roy H.]

Speaking of young underperforming PFs what is happening with Markkanen. Can we low-ball our way into a rotation ready stretch 4?

There is this from Bleacher Report:

[Fischer] Dallas, New Orleans, Boston, and Minnesota have all shown interest in signing Markkanen to deals worth around $15 million in average annual value, sources said, but the Bulls are seeking a first-round pick in exchange for helping facilitate the transaction.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2947075-inside-chicago-bulls-85-million-demar-derozan-deal-and-markkanen-freeze-out

Not sure I want Markkanen at $15M/yr, but interesting that the Cs were mentioned. Also, at the end of the article (and since this is a Schroder thread), there was this...whatever it means:

The Celtics are exploring trade opportunities for point guard Kris Dunn and forward Bruno Fernando before concluding conversations with free agent Dennis Schroder.

I’m skeptical of that report.  We’d presumably need to trade Smart.

I guess we can go crazy and sign both Schroder and Markannen.

Horford / Timelord / Kanter
Markannen / (Tatum) / Parker
Tatum / Nesmith
Brown / Richardson / Romeo
Schroder/ Pritchard

Upside?

[michigan adam]

Speaking of young underperforming PFs what is happening with Markkanen. Can we low-ball our way into a rotation ready stretch 4?

There is this from Bleacher Report:

[Fischer] Dallas, New Orleans, Boston, and Minnesota have all shown interest in signing Markkanen to deals worth around $15 million in average annual value, sources said, but the Bulls are seeking a first-round pick in exchange for helping facilitate the transaction.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2947075-inside-chicago-bulls-85-million-demar-derozan-deal-and-markkanen-freeze-out

Not sure I want Markkanen at $15M/yr, but interesting that the Cs were mentioned. Also, at the end of the article (and since this is a Schroder thread), there was this...whatever it means:

The Celtics are exploring trade opportunities for point guard Kris Dunn and forward Bruno Fernando before concluding conversations with free agent Dennis Schroder.

I’m skeptical of that report.  We’d presumably need to trade Smart.

I guess we can go crazy and sign both Schroder and Markannen.

Horford / Timelord / Kanter
Markannen / (Tatum) / Parker
Tatum / Nesmith
Brown / Richardson / Romeo
Schroder/ Pritchard

Upside?

That is a contender in my book...

[Vermont Green]

I guess we can go crazy and sign both Schroder and Markannen.

Horford / Timelord / Kanter
Markannen / (Tatum) / Parker
Tatum / Nesmith
Brown / Richardson / Romeo
Schroder/ Pritchard

Upside?

I could see something like that.  You are essentially getting Schroder and Markkanen for what, Smart and Dunn?  Maybe add a future first for Chicago (protected).  Chicago does not really want more salary but I don't see how else we could take on Markkanen at $15M.  I would then see the team more like this:

Schroder/Pritchard/Madar
Brown/Richardson/Edwards
Tatum/Nesmith/Langford
Markkanen/Parker/GWill
Horford/RWill/Kanter

The key to this is what you believe you are getting in Markkanen.  Is it the 40% 3PT shooter who can give you 19/9 like he did in 2018 as a starter or is he the player who couldn't keep his starting role in CHI in 2020?   I can't say that I know what Markkanen is going to be but love the potential for what he could be.  He could be a really nice big to play alongside Tatum and Brown.  Big risk to give up Smart but if you like Schroder, you got that covered.

[Celtics2021]

Speaking of young underperforming PFs what is happening with Markkanen. Can we low-ball our way into a rotation ready stretch 4?

There is this from Bleacher Report:

[Fischer] Dallas, New Orleans, Boston, and Minnesota have all shown interest in signing Markkanen to deals worth around $15 million in average annual value, sources said, but the Bulls are seeking a first-round pick in exchange for helping facilitate the transaction.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2947075-inside-chicago-bulls-85-million-demar-derozan-deal-and-markkanen-freeze-out

Not sure I want Markkanen at $15M/yr, but interesting that the Cs were mentioned. Also, at the end of the article (and since this is a Schroder thread), there was this...whatever it means:

The Celtics are exploring trade opportunities for point guard Kris Dunn and forward Bruno Fernando before concluding conversations with free agent Dennis Schroder.

I’m skeptical of that report.  We’d presumably need to trade Smart.

I guess we can go crazy and sign both Schroder and Markannen.

Horford / Timelord / Kanter
Markannen / (Tatum) / Parker
Tatum / Nesmith
Brown / Richardson / Romeo
Schroder/ Pritchard

Upside?

Richardson would work in a Markkanen S&T instead of Smart.  It would keep us below the hard cap (although subject us to it), and year one of Markkanen could start at $14.6 million, certainly getting him above $15 million for an average annual value on a 3-4 year deal with raises.

I don’t see us doing it, but perhaps I’m biased in that I don’t think Markkanen is worth $15 million a year.

[Roy H.]

Speaking of young underperforming PFs what is happening with Markkanen. Can we low-ball our way into a rotation ready stretch 4?

There is this from Bleacher Report:

[Fischer] Dallas, New Orleans, Boston, and Minnesota have all shown interest in signing Markkanen to deals worth around $15 million in average annual value, sources said, but the Bulls are seeking a first-round pick in exchange for helping facilitate the transaction.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2947075-inside-chicago-bulls-85-million-demar-derozan-deal-and-markkanen-freeze-out

Not sure I want Markkanen at $15M/yr, but interesting that the Cs were mentioned. Also, at the end of the article (and since this is a Schroder thread), there was this...whatever it means:

The Celtics are exploring trade opportunities for point guard Kris Dunn and forward Bruno Fernando before concluding conversations with free agent Dennis Schroder.

I’m skeptical of that report.  We’d presumably need to trade Smart.

I guess we can go crazy and sign both Schroder and Markannen.

Horford / Timelord / Kanter
Markannen / (Tatum) / Parker
Tatum / Nesmith
Brown / Richardson / Romeo
Schroder/ Pritchard

Upside?

Richardson would work in a Markkanen S&T instead of Smart.  It would keep us below the hard cap (although subject us to it), and year one of Markkanen could start at $14.6 million, certainly getting him above $15 million for an average annual value on a 3-4 year deal with raises.

I don’t see us doing it, but perhaps I’m biased in that I don’t think Markkanen is worth $15 million a year.

Could we do the following?

1.  Sign and trade for Markannen. We send out Smart,
and Dunn, most likely to a third-party who sends Minny a first rounder.

2.  Sign and trade Schroder into our TPE, giving the Lakers a trade exception.

3.  Bring over YAM and sign him to a four year deal using our MLE.

4.  Cut Parker for cap reasons if necessary.

Is it possible to do that under the hard cap?

That puts us at:

Horford / Timelord / Kanter
Markannen / (Tatum) / Williams
Tatum / Nesmith
Brown / Richardson / Romeo / Edwards
Schroder/ Pritchard / YAM

Tell Brad that I will accept a paid internship in the front office.  I will settle for low six figures, a housing allowance, and private school for my kids.