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Re: Shams: Celtics acquire Josh Richardson for Moses Brown
« Reply #120 on: July 31, 2021, 01:43:13 PM »

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I assume that means Brad preferred Bruno Fernando to Moses? He was drafted at 34 in the year Moses went undrafted and didn’t play much due to being behind Capella and Onkongwu. So, maybe he still has upside?
He's just another expiring contract. He's shown absolutely nothing thusfar.

At least Moses showed something, even if it was empty stats (who knows), I was semi-excited to see him be a backup-backup

I guess I need to search out some empty stats for Bruno!


Re: Shams: Celtics acquire Josh Richardson for Moses Brown
« Reply #121 on: July 31, 2021, 01:43:18 PM »

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Sum total of the Gordon Hayward trade to Charlotte for the Celtics: In: Evan Fournier to end 2020-21 season (at least), Josh Richardson Out: Gordon Hayward, Jeff Teague, Moses Brown and four second round picks (2 to CHA for the TPE, 2 to ORL for Fournier)

So, arguably we would have been better off letting Hayward walk for nothing.
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Re: Shams: Celtics acquire Josh Richardson for Moses Brown
« Reply #122 on: July 31, 2021, 01:45:12 PM »

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Terrible move. So much for the takes that Moses and the #16 are even value. Right now Stevens is just shuffling the deck chairs while not actually making the team better.

So we traded #16 for Richardson…awesome
We'll have the flexibility to straight up sign a max FA or trade or whatever we want next summer. Hate to say it, but none of these moves have anything to do with the upcoming season.

So hope a top free agent signs here? I'm not sure I'm willing to waste another year of Brown and Tatum's prime on a maybe.
If you can't get players you want around them, then what options does Stevens have?

Maybe we'll swing and miss, who can tell, but we'll be one of the most attractive places in the league for a FA to sign, or for a veteran star to want to be traded to.

Re: Shams: Celtics acquire Josh Richardson for Moses Brown
« Reply #123 on: July 31, 2021, 01:47:05 PM »

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I'll say this on Kris Dunn, of all the players I've been wrong about, he was probably the biggest whiff. I thought he'd be a superstar.

Re: Shams: Celtics acquire Josh Richardson for Moses Brown
« Reply #124 on: July 31, 2021, 01:49:20 PM »

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I am happy we longer have to hear about the pretense of Moses Brown's empty stats making him a genuine prospect.

Good lord preach. I stated I thought Moses Brown had about a 10% chance at being a starter someday and people went bananas. He was literally in the Walker/Horford deal to balance out minor details. He was never in the Cs long term plans.

Re: Shams: Celtics acquire Josh Richardson for Moses Brown
« Reply #125 on: July 31, 2021, 01:49:58 PM »

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I'll say this on Kris Dunn, of all the players I've been wrong about, he was probably the biggest whiff. I thought he'd be a superstar.

Completely agree with you on this. I took him third in that draft that year.

Re: Shams: Celtics acquire Josh Richardson for Moses Brown
« Reply #126 on: July 31, 2021, 01:51:25 PM »

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This is the biggest bait and switch since Will Solomon's time as a Celtic!

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Re: Shams: Celtics acquire Josh Richardson for Moses Brown
« Reply #127 on: July 31, 2021, 01:57:19 PM »

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Darn.  would have wanted to keep Brown, but there were a lot of centers on the roster already. 

So Walker, 16 for Horford, Richardson.  That seems like a pretty clear win for Boston in its entirety.
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Re: Shams: Celtics acquire Josh Richardson for Moses Brown
« Reply #128 on: July 31, 2021, 02:03:56 PM »

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My hope is we’ll get a pick back with this deal also.  In other words, we helped Dallas by taking on Richardson’s deal, we had to send them something to make the deal legal, and we sent them a slightly better something to even out the deal with the pick they were also including for the favor.

But that’s just my hope.

Re: Shams: Celtics acquire Josh Richardson for Moses Brown
« Reply #129 on: July 31, 2021, 02:07:02 PM »

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My hope is we’ll get a pick back with this deal also.  In other words, we helped Dallas by taking on Richardson’s deal, we had to send them something to make the deal legal, and we sent them a slightly better something to even out the deal with the pick they were also including for the favor.

But that’s just my hope.

Trade has already been officially announced by both teams. No reference to a pick.

Allegedly, we asked Dallas to take on more guaranteed salary, presumably by absorbing Grant Williams. They refused. We pushed Moses Brown on them as a salary dump.

It amazes me that we are so cap conscious that we dumped a prospect who is locked up for several years at below $2 million.



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Re: Shams: Celtics acquire Josh Richardson for Moses Brown
« Reply #130 on: July 31, 2021, 02:13:34 PM »

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My hope is we’ll get a pick back with this deal also.  In other words, we helped Dallas by taking on Richardson’s deal, we had to send them something to make the deal legal, and we sent them a slightly better something to even out the deal with the pick they were also including for the favor.

But that’s just my hope.

Trade has already been officially announced by both teams. No reference to a pick.

Allegedly, we asked Dallas to take on more guaranteed salary, presumably by absorbing Grant Williams. They refused. We pushed Moses Brown on them as a salary dump.

It amazes me that we are so cap conscious that we dumped a prospect who is locked up for several years at below $2 million.

That’s what I get for hoping.  Definitely more disappointed than I was last night.  Here’s hoping they unlock Richardson’s Miami days.

Re: Shams: Celtics acquire Josh Richardson for Moses Brown
« Reply #131 on: July 31, 2021, 02:16:23 PM »

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How much room do we currently have under the 2021 season luxury tax? That may explain why we had to dump Brown?  To acquire Richardson, we had to do it on this year’s books. However, it’s quite important that we don’t go over the tax line.


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Re: Shams: Celtics acquire Josh Richardson for Moses Brown
« Reply #132 on: July 31, 2021, 02:26:11 PM »

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Wait I'm just seeing this. They traded Moses Brown for him??  :o

Dang end of an era I guess  :P (but still surprised about it)
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Re: Shams: Celtics acquire Josh Richardson for Moses Brown
« Reply #133 on: July 31, 2021, 02:28:03 PM »

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How much room do we currently have under the 2021 season luxury tax? That may explain why we had to dump Brown?  To acquire Richardson, we had to do it on this year’s books. However, it’s quite important that we don’t go over the tax line.
His contract is not guaranteed. We could cut him to save the cash. I guess Brad values a 2nd round pick more?

Re: Shams: Celtics acquire Josh Richardson for Moses Brown
« Reply #134 on: July 31, 2021, 02:29:36 PM »

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How much room do we currently have under the 2021 season luxury tax? That may explain why we had to dump Brown?  To acquire Richardson, we had to do it on this year’s books. However, it’s quite important that we don’t go over the tax line.
His contract is not guaranteed. We could cut him to save the cash. I guess Brad values a 2nd round pick more?

I mean he values Richardson more and he’s not wrong.