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Moses Brown trade irritating
« on: July 11, 2021, 11:18:15 AM »

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 Let me explain why. Listening to an OKC thunder podcast and the guy doing the video was a rational fan, explaining he did think moses was the starter this year and possibly down the road, and was genuinely surprised they traded him.

 Also said he was a monster on the boards with solid upside. All good things to hear.

 The issue here is that all the years we have had no size or severely undersized bigs. Not one time Danny couldn't find an under the radar big who had legit size and was a borderline starting center or Good back up?

 This was a very telling trade IMO, for  Brad's first trade. I think he addressed one of his biggest frustrations as the coach.

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All signs point to this trade was in the works for a while since Ainge was a GM, so I wouldn’t just go off saying this is finally Brad getting a big man with size. It’s not like Ainge has not gotten centers with size in the past like Aaron Baynes.

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 Let me explain why. Listening to an OKC thunder podcast and the guy doing the video was a rational fan, explaining he did think moses was the starter this year and possibly down the road, and was genuinely surprised they traded him.

 Also said he was a monster on the boards with solid upside. All good things to hear.

 The issue here is that all the years we have had no size or severely undersized bigs. Not one time Danny couldn't find an under the radar big who had legit size and was a borderline starting center or Good back up?

 This was a very telling trade IMO, for  Brad's first trade. I think he addressed one of his biggest frustrations as the coach.

Jury is out as to whether Moses is borderline starting center, or even a good back up. I hope he develops into becoming that, but I am skeptical, despite his monster game vs us this past season.  Really struggles rotating on defense, seems to have poor hands too.  Weak lower body, and very long legs makes it difficult for him to hold his ground on defense.  Bad foul shooter.  Sorry to be so negative, I just think we have to manage expectations with this guy. 

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I feel he's the Rondo of '08. Unproven, huge upside, possibly all-star level.

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I’m just irritated we couldn’t have gotten Maledon or Bazley instead - much better fits.

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I feel he's the Rondo of '08. Unproven, huge upside, possibly all-star level.
What is it April's Fools Day in Australia? You must be joking, mate.

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 Let me explain why. Listening to an OKC thunder podcast and the guy doing the video was a rational fan, explaining he did think moses was the starter this year and possibly down the road, and was genuinely surprised they traded him.

 Also said he was a monster on the boards with solid upside. All good things to hear.

 The issue here is that all the years we have had no size or severely undersized bigs. Not one time Danny couldn't find an under the radar big who had legit size and was a borderline starting center or Good back up?

 This was a very telling trade IMO, for  Brad's first trade. I think he addressed one of his biggest frustrations as the coach.

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Danny had a preference for guys who could play further than six feet from the basket.  Even with that said, he did draft Robert Williams.

The retro active narrative about how Brad was pushing for size kind of cracks me up. Brad didn’t use Kanter effectively, and Greg Monroe barely played.  That’s because as a coach Brad did not like traditional centers.


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Danny had a preference for guys who could play further than six feet from the basket.  Even with that said, he did draft Robert Williams.

The retro active narrative about how Brad was pushing for size kind of cracks me up. Brad didn’t use Kanter effectively, and Greg Monroe barely played.  That’s because as a coach Brad did not like traditional centers.

I agree that Brad seems to prefer guys who play away from the basket, but how exactly do you use Kanter effectively?  A lot of people talked about how he thrived with the Blazers as an indictment on Brad, but what happened in the playoffs?

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I feel he's the Rondo of '08. Unproven, huge upside, possibly all-star level.
What is it April's Fools Day in Australia? You must be joking, mate.
I think he had his wobbly boot on when he posted.

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Danny had a preference for guys who could play further than six feet from the basket.  Even with that said, he did draft Robert Williams.

The retro active narrative about how Brad was pushing for size kind of cracks me up. Brad didn’t use Kanter effectively, and Greg Monroe barely played.  That’s because as a coach Brad did not like traditional centers.

I agree that Brad seems to prefer guys who play away from the basket, but how exactly do you use Kanter effectively?  A lot of people talked about how he thrived with the Blazers as an indictment on Brad, but what happened in the playoffs?

Not to mention, Monroe played 19 minute a game in his half season in Boston, then 11 minutes with Toronto (and a few games in Boston and Philly) the following season, and then has been out of the NBA the last two years.  Monroe played a fair amount, but the NBA game passed him by.

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Danny had a preference for guys who could play further than six feet from the basket.  Even with that said, he did draft Robert Williams.

The retro active narrative about how Brad was pushing for size kind of cracks me up. Brad didn’t use Kanter effectively, and Greg Monroe barely played.  That’s because as a coach Brad did not like traditional centers.

I agree that Brad seems to prefer guys who play away from the basket, but how exactly do you use Kanter effectively?  A lot of people talked about how he thrived with the Blazers as an indictment on Brad, but what happened in the playoffs?

Not to mention, Monroe played 19 minute a game in his half season in Boston, then 11 minutes with Toronto (and a few games in Boston and Philly) the following season, and then has been out of the NBA the last two years.  Monroe played a fair amount, but the NBA game passed him by.

Sure, but if that's the case, then why do we expect Moses Brown to be much better than Monroe in an even more modern NBA game?

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Danny had a preference for guys who could play further than six feet from the basket.  Even with that said, he did draft Robert Williams.

The retro active narrative about how Brad was pushing for size kind of cracks me up. Brad didn’t use Kanter effectively, and Greg Monroe barely played.  That’s because as a coach Brad did not like traditional centers.

I agree that Brad seems to prefer guys who play away from the basket, but how exactly do you use Kanter effectively?  A lot of people talked about how he thrived with the Blazers as an indictment on Brad, but what happened in the playoffs?

Not to mention, Monroe played 19 minute a game in his half season in Boston, then 11 minutes with Toronto (and a few games in Boston and Philly) the following season, and then has been out of the NBA the last two years.  Monroe played a fair amount, but the NBA game passed him by.

Sure, but if that's the case, then why do we expect Moses Brown to be much better than Monroe in an even more modern NBA game?

IMO they are vastly different types of players as Monroe’s weaknesses outweighed his strengths where as Moses looks to be the opposite. Long athletic defensive minded centres still hold value in today’s NBA. In saying that watching clips of Moses, I doubt he’ll contribute much next season for the Celtics outside of the G-League, as he is still extremely raw and would be a foul machine if he played important nba minutes (there’s a reason he went undrafted).
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I said it before, Moses will have a better career than TimeLord
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I said it before, Moses will have a better career than TimeLord

Only if TimeLord is injured.

If healthy, Rob is the third member of our big three. The team is just much better when he’s out there.