Moses Brown trade irritating

[Sophomore]

Danny had a preference for guys who could play further than six feet from the basket.  Even with that said, he did draft Robert Williams.

The retro active narrative about how Brad was pushing for size kind of cracks me up. Brad didn’t use Kanter effectively, and Greg Monroe barely played.  That’s because as a coach Brad did not like traditional centers.

I agree that Brad seems to prefer guys who play away from the basket, but how exactly do you use Kanter effectively?  A lot of people talked about how he thrived with the Blazers as an indictment on Brad, but what happened in the playoffs?

Not to mention, Monroe played 19 minute a game in his half season in Boston, then 11 minutes with Toronto (and a few games in Boston and Philly) the following season, and then has been out of the NBA the last two years.  Monroe played a fair amount, but the NBA game passed him by.

Exactly. And Monroe is out of the league. That’s not because Brad hates playing big guys. It’s because Greg Monroe plays like he’s wearing lead boots, and his timing is often bad. Game’s too fast for him.

You can try to hide Kanter in your defense, but except in a few matchups he’s a disaster, especially in the playoffs.

[KG Living Legend]

Danny had a preference for guys who could play further than six feet from the basket.  Even with that said, he did draft Robert Williams.

The retro active narrative about how Brad was pushing for size kind of cracks me up. Brad didn’t use Kanter effectively, and Greg Monroe barely played.  That’s because as a coach Brad did not like traditional centers.

I agree that Brad seems to prefer guys who play away from the basket, but how exactly do you use Kanter effectively?  A lot of people talked about how he thrived with the Blazers as an indictment on Brad, but what happened in the playoffs?

Not to mention, Monroe played 19 minute a game in his half season in Boston, then 11 minutes with Toronto (and a few games in Boston and Philly) the following season, and then has been out of the NBA the last two years.  Monroe played a fair amount, but the NBA game passed him by.

Exactly. And Monroe is out of the league. That’s not because Brad hates playing big guys. It’s because Greg Monroe plays like he’s wearing lead boots, and his timing is often bad. Game’s too fast for him.

You can try to hide Kanter in your defense, but except in a few matchups he’s a disaster, especially in the playoffs.

 Not accusing Brad of hating Big guys. Accusing Danny of hating big guys.

[Ogaju]

When did he get traded?

[Roy H.]

Danny had a preference for guys who could play further than six feet from the basket.  Even with that said, he did draft Robert Williams.

The retro active narrative about how Brad was pushing for size kind of cracks me up. Brad didn’t use Kanter effectively, and Greg Monroe barely played.  That’s because as a coach Brad did not like traditional centers.

I agree that Brad seems to prefer guys who play away from the basket, but how exactly do you use Kanter effectively?  A lot of people talked about how he thrived with the Blazers as an indictment on Brad, but what happened in the playoffs?

Not to mention, Monroe played 19 minute a game in his half season in Boston, then 11 minutes with Toronto (and a few games in Boston and Philly) the following season, and then has been out of the NBA the last two years.  Monroe played a fair amount, but the NBA game passed him by.

Exactly. And Monroe is out of the league. That’s not because Brad hates playing big guys. It’s because Greg Monroe plays like he’s wearing lead boots, and his timing is often bad. Game’s too fast for him.

You can try to hide Kanter in your defense, but except in a few matchups he’s a disaster, especially in the playoffs.

Have you guys watched Brown play?  He put up okay numbers, but he was a minus 20.2 points per game while his team went 6-26 with him as a starter.  Essentially, almost every minute he played was garbage time.

[pearljammer10]

Moses was a throw in to balance out some minor details around Kemba and a first for Horford.

There’s a 10% chance Moses becomes a starter in the league, a 20% chance he has 5 years as a rotation guy, and a 70% chance he’s a 11th/12th man or worse for his career.

[gouki88]

Moses was a throw in to balance out some minor details around Kemba and a first for Horford.

There’s a 10% chance Moses becomes a starter in the league, a 20% chance he has 5 years as a rotation guy, and a 70% chance he’s a 11th/12th man or worse for his career.

How have you come to these random numbers? Given he literally just spent a season as a starter at 21 years old, I think they're a bit ludicrous. A Tristan Thompson like career is pretty reasonable to project

[footey]

Moses was a throw in to balance out some minor details around Kemba and a first for Horford.

There’s a 10% chance Moses becomes a starter in the league, a 20% chance he has 5 years as a rotation guy, and a 70% chance he’s a 11th/12th man or worse for his career.

How have you come to these random numbers? Given he literally just spent a season as a starter at 21 years old, I think they're a bit ludicrous. A Tristan Thompson like career is pretty reasonable to project

His percentages are wack, but Tristan Thompson was the 4th pick in the draft, and started on NBA Championship team and 3 NBA finalists.  You project a similar level of play from undrafted Moses Brown?

[gouki88]

Moses was a throw in to balance out some minor details around Kemba and a first for Horford.

There’s a 10% chance Moses becomes a starter in the league, a 20% chance he has 5 years as a rotation guy, and a 70% chance he’s a 11th/12th man or worse for his career.

How have you come to these random numbers? Given he literally just spent a season as a starter at 21 years old, I think they're a bit ludicrous. A Tristan Thompson like career is pretty reasonable to project

His percentages are wack, but Tristan Thompson was the 4th pick in the draft, and started on NBA Championship team and 3 NBA finalists.  You project a similar level of play from undrafted Moses Brown?

I project Moses Brown to be able to average 9/9 over a long career. If he lucks into playing alongside the best player of his generation and gets carried to deep playoff runs, good for him.

[tstorey_97]

The team hasn't had a frontcourt. Baynes played two seasons. Ainge just lost his mind over Anthony Davis completely moondog lost it.

He is still talking about AD in his sleep. Davis wasn't ever coming here and Ainge still set up the team to get him and never had plan B.

That is my concept on why the team hasn't had a frontcourt.

From Garnett and Perkins with Cigars and champagne to absolutely nuthin.

Ainge played with one of the greatest frontcourts of all time and was trained by Auerbach who built most of the greatest frontcourts of all time...not like he doesn't know what one looks like.

I think Brown will eventually become an above average backup center in the NBA. No Idea if IME will be stoked about Thompson and Moses as they are trad centers. This issue would be resolved if Robert could stay on the court.

I have fewer problems with Moses Brown's game than some, but, yes, he can't shoot from outside and he is behind three other bigs...right?


 

[KG Living Legend]

The team hasn't had a frontcourt. Baynes played two seasons. Ainge just lost his mind over Anthony Davis completely moondog lost it.

He is still talking about AD in his sleep. Davis wasn't ever coming here and Ainge still set up the team to get him and never had plan B.

That is my concept on why the team hasn't had a frontcourt.

From Garnett and Perkins with Cigars and champagne to absolutely nuthin.

Ainge played with one of the greatest frontcourts of all time and was trained by Auerbach who built most of the greatest frontcourts of all time...not like he doesn't know what one looks like.

I think Brown will eventually become an above average backup center in the NBA. No Idea if IME will be stoked about Thompson and Moses as they are trad centers. This issue would be resolved if Robert could stay on the court.

I have fewer problems with Moses Brown's game than some, but, yes, he can't shoot from outside and he is behind three other bigs...right?


 

 Well said. Tp

[pearljammer10]

Moses was a throw in to balance out some minor details around Kemba and a first for Horford.

There’s a 10% chance Moses becomes a starter in the league, a 20% chance he has 5 years as a rotation guy, and a 70% chance he’s a 11th/12th man or worse for his career.

How have you come to these random numbers? Given he literally just spent a season as a starter at 21 years old, I think they're a bit ludicrous. A Tristan Thompson like career is pretty reasonable to project

So is a career like Jerome Moiso’s.

[gouki88]

Moses was a throw in to balance out some minor details around Kemba and a first for Horford.

There’s a 10% chance Moses becomes a starter in the league, a 20% chance he has 5 years as a rotation guy, and a 70% chance he’s a 11th/12th man or worse for his career.

How have you come to these random numbers? Given he literally just spent a season as a starter at 21 years old, I think they're a bit ludicrous. A Tristan Thompson like career is pretty reasonable to project

So is a career like Jerome Moiso’s.

Given his most recent season was twice as good as Moiso's best, and Moiso was older as a rookie than Moses Brown is now, I don't think so. Continue with the irrational pessimism though

[PAOBoston]

I said it before, Moses will have a better career than TimeLord

Only if TimeLord is injured.

If healthy, Rob is the third member of our big three. The team is just much better when he’s out there.

Sadly, he will be healthy for less than 50% of their games.

[rogueandpoet]

Probably because of the success of the Warriors everyone has been talking "positionless" basketball as the future. I think the success of Rob Williams, that big kid down in Phoenix and even the results Moses Brown got in OKC are notable. The league had hampered defences severely making it way to  easy for guards and forwards to attack the rim. The obvious solution is to have bigs that actually guard the rim. Bigs like Baynes, Horford, Kanter could control space around the rim but not the rim itself. Williams specifically and Brown possibly are players who block lots of shots and change lots of shots. That they can dunk anything within four feet of the rim and also run the court is just more icing on the cake. Brown and Williams don't need a jump shot, what they can do easily and naturally is perfect.

[Ogaju]

When exactly did the Kemba for Horford trade become the ‘Moses Brown trade’?