Who's the New coach!

[GreenlyGreeny]

No joke: It sounds like Hammon is going to become our HC or the Spurs’ next HC. The more I read about her, the more excited I become. This is basically a young version of Pops available for the taking.

More likely Pops would vacate rather than let her walk. No?

That’s my thought. Then Pops is available for 2-3 years, his legacy secure with the Spurs and his NBA legend cemented forever as the guy who brought about the first female head coach in any professional sport. But if he’s not finished, he would be the perfect Celtics coach the next 2-3 years before it all gets handed back to Stevens.

If I’m Stevens, I’m going after Hammon because you’re either getting Pops’ prodigy or you’re getting the above scenario. Doubt Pops wants to retire with this last season missing the playoffs. He’d want Hammon to take over the Spurs and try to follow in Red’s footsteps as HC of the Celtics, avoiding his prodigy all but two games per year.

It’s definitely the best move for Pops and Stevens.

[Kiorrik]

The more I think about it, the less I believe either Pop or Hammon will end up here.

Franchise loyalty and all.

[GreenlyGreeny]

The more I think about it, the less I believe either Pop or Hammon will end up here.

Franchise loyalty and all.

And Pops’ loyalty to the Spurs will want him seeing them hire Hammon even if it means stepping aside from the Spurs. That’s a legacy he definitely wants in place. They really do not have a serious team for next year, so it’s not surprising if he wants to step aside now to ensure his successor is Hammon.

After the dust settles on that, Pops’ can announce a “new chapter” with a “legendary franchise” and “a brilliant front office” with “talented, young players to work with” before deciding he’s OK retiring with more championships than any coach other than Red and Phil.

[Ogaju]

Just watched presser and in talking about the new coach Brad was careful to be gender neutral.

[gouki88]

The more I think about it, the less I believe either Pop or Hammon will end up here.

Franchise loyalty and all.

And Pops’ loyalty to the Spurs will want him seeing them hire Hammon even if it means stepping aside from the Spurs. That’s a legacy he definitely wants in place. They really do not have a serious team for next year, so it’s not surprising if he wants to step aside now to ensure his successor is Hammon.

After the dust settles on that, Pops’ can announce a “new chapter” with a “legendary franchise” and “a brilliant front office” with “talented, young players to work with” before deciding he’s OK retiring with more championships than any coach other than Red and Phil.

This is a strange fantasy

[makaveli]

I would love me some Kenny Atkinson, dude has done well with a bad Nets roster and deserves a serious chance. His team played hard and collective basketball, just what the doctor orderd for the C’s.

[Tr1boy]

As mentioned Scal thinks it will be Kara Lawson

She was well liked by the group (most still here)

She sounds like a strong speaker

Kara Lawson: What great teams do - speech to her team
https://youtu.be/xpVmAUVFJlA

Fantastic mesage. Celtics at times didnt even look like a "team" this past season. 

[Tr1boy]

Past quote

Brad on Lawson (as an assistant coach)

“Kara has been terrific as well. I think the world of Kara,” Stevens said. “She’s a special coach. You could always kind of see that when she was playing and you could hear it when she was calling games, but to get a chance to live it every day, she’s as good as there is. She’s really, really good.”

[Kernewek]

Hm. Having been thinking about this a little bit more. I'm not sure we'll actually be able to grab the top-tier of available HC talent. If we assume that this season wasn't just a horrific fluke, this is a gig that has:

• A team with pretty bad chemistry
• Kemba's contract relative to his play
• Relatively few options for the front office to improve the roster in the short term*
  

*(miraculously trade Kemba, keep one or the other of Smart & Fournier because ownership probably won't pay to keep both... and that's about it)

The front office is also run by a first-time GM who:

• Used to be the head coach
• Certainly played some part in the bad chemistry
• Is widely regarded as good with X's and O's but player management was an issue... and is now in a position where he won't do any X's and O's but will absolutely need to do more player management.

The only positives, really, are that Brown and Tatum are ridiculously talented basketball players. But there are a lot of ways that the season could go poorly next season, and the new HC is going to be more on the chopping block than the new GM.

[Surferdad]

I would love me some Kenny Atkinson, dude has done well with a bad Nets roster and deserves a serious chance. His team played hard and collective basketball, just what the doctor orderd for the C’s.

Agree.  He gets his players playing HARD.  Not sure he's a championship coach, but he will get the most out of the players.

[slamtheking]

Hm. Having been thinking about this a little bit more. I'm not sure we'll actually be able to grab the top-tier of available HC talent. If we assume that this season wasn't just a horrific fluke, this is a gig that has:

• A team with pretty bad chemistry
• Kemba's contract relative to his play
• Relatively few options for the front office to improve the roster in the short term*
  

*(miraculously trade Kemba, keep one or the other of Smart & Fournier because ownership probably won't pay to keep both... and that's about it)

The front office is also run by a first-time GM who:

• Used to be the head coach
• Certainly played some part in the bad chemistry
• Is widely regarded as good with X's and O's but player management was an issue... and is now in a position where he won't do any X's and O's but will absolutely need to do more player management.

The only positives, really, are that Brown and Tatum are ridiculously talented basketball players. But there are a lot of ways that the season could go poorly next season, and the new HC is going to be more on the chopping block than the new GM.

not so sure Brad's not going to have a short leash for his tenure.  I believe his contract played a part in his promotion rather than bringing in a more-experienced front office person.  Brad may get a grace period this season by Wyc to get a plan together for the future but if he ends up floundering after 2 seasons with no clear plan for improvement in place (that's actually working) then I could see the team cutting bait on Brad when he's owed 2 less years on his deal.

[Celtics2021]

Hm. Having been thinking about this a little bit more. I'm not sure we'll actually be able to grab the top-tier of available HC talent. If we assume that this season wasn't just a horrific fluke, this is a gig that has:

• A team with pretty bad chemistry
• Kemba's contract relative to his play
• Relatively few options for the front office to improve the roster in the short term*
  

*(miraculously trade Kemba, keep one or the other of Smart & Fournier because ownership probably won't pay to keep both... and that's about it)

The front office is also run by a first-time GM who:

• Used to be the head coach
• Certainly played some part in the bad chemistry
• Is widely regarded as good with X's and O's but player management was an issue... and is now in a position where he won't do any X's and O's but will absolutely need to do more player management.

The only positives, really, are that Brown and Tatum are ridiculously talented basketball players. But there are a lot of ways that the season could go poorly next season, and the new HC is going to be more on the chopping block than the new GM.

not so sure Brad's not going to have a short leash for his tenure.  I believe his contract played a part in his promotion rather than bringing in a more-experienced front office person.  Brad may get a grace period this season by Wyc to get a plan together for the future but if he ends up floundering after 2 seasons with no clear plan for improvement in place (that's actually working) then I could see the team cutting bait on Brad when he's owed 2 less years on his deal.

I mean, sure, he has to ultimately perform.  But remember, Brad signed a contract extension fewer than 10 months ago, in the bubble, when he was already reportedly feeling burnt out from coaching.  I'd be very surprised if that contract didn't have language that anticipated this move.  I don't think he'll be on a terribly short leash. 

[Surferdad]

Hm. Having been thinking about this a little bit more. I'm not sure we'll actually be able to grab the top-tier of available HC talent. If we assume that this season wasn't just a horrific fluke, this is a gig that has:

• A team with pretty bad chemistry
• Kemba's contract relative to his play
• Relatively few options for the front office to improve the roster in the short term*
  

*(miraculously trade Kemba, keep one or the other of Smart & Fournier because ownership probably won't pay to keep both... and that's about it)

The front office is also run by a first-time GM who:

• Used to be the head coach
• Certainly played some part in the bad chemistry
• Is widely regarded as good with X's and O's but player management was an issue... and is now in a position where he won't do any X's and O's but will absolutely need to do more player management.

The only positives, really, are that Brown and Tatum are ridiculously talented basketball players. But there are a lot of ways that the season could go poorly next season, and the new HC is going to be more on the chopping block than the new GM.

not so sure Brad's not going to have a short leash for his tenure.  I believe his contract played a part in his promotion rather than bringing in a more-experienced front office person.  Brad may get a grace period this season by Wyc to get a plan together for the future but if he ends up floundering after 2 seasons with no clear plan for improvement in place (that's actually working) then I could see the team cutting bait on Brad when he's owed 2 less years on his deal.

Jeff Goodman thinks this move was driven entirely by contract.  He has like $30MM left on it.  Meanwhile Stephan A Smith is went bonkers that the failing coach was given a promotion.

[Celtics2021]

Hm. Having been thinking about this a little bit more. I'm not sure we'll actually be able to grab the top-tier of available HC talent. If we assume that this season wasn't just a horrific fluke, this is a gig that has:

• A team with pretty bad chemistry
• Kemba's contract relative to his play
• Relatively few options for the front office to improve the roster in the short term*
  

*(miraculously trade Kemba, keep one or the other of Smart & Fournier because ownership probably won't pay to keep both... and that's about it)

The front office is also run by a first-time GM who:

• Used to be the head coach
• Certainly played some part in the bad chemistry
• Is widely regarded as good with X's and O's but player management was an issue... and is now in a position where he won't do any X's and O's but will absolutely need to do more player management.

The only positives, really, are that Brown and Tatum are ridiculously talented basketball players. But there are a lot of ways that the season could go poorly next season, and the new HC is going to be more on the chopping block than the new GM.

not so sure Brad's not going to have a short leash for his tenure.  I believe his contract played a part in his promotion rather than bringing in a more-experienced front office person.  Brad may get a grace period this season by Wyc to get a plan together for the future but if he ends up floundering after 2 seasons with no clear plan for improvement in place (that's actually working) then I could see the team cutting bait on Brad when he's owed 2 less years on his deal.

Jeff Goodman thinks this move was driven entirely by contract.  He has like $30MM left on it.  Meanwhile Stephan A Smith is went bonkers that the failing coach was given a promotion.

It's bonkers to me that the coach with the longest active streak of advancing beyond the first round in the playoffs entering this season could be considered a failing coach.

[slamtheking]

Hm. Having been thinking about this a little bit more. I'm not sure we'll actually be able to grab the top-tier of available HC talent. If we assume that this season wasn't just a horrific fluke, this is a gig that has:

• A team with pretty bad chemistry
• Kemba's contract relative to his play
• Relatively few options for the front office to improve the roster in the short term*
  

*(miraculously trade Kemba, keep one or the other of Smart & Fournier because ownership probably won't pay to keep both... and that's about it)

The front office is also run by a first-time GM who:

• Used to be the head coach
• Certainly played some part in the bad chemistry
• Is widely regarded as good with X's and O's but player management was an issue... and is now in a position where he won't do any X's and O's but will absolutely need to do more player management.

The only positives, really, are that Brown and Tatum are ridiculously talented basketball players. But there are a lot of ways that the season could go poorly next season, and the new HC is going to be more on the chopping block than the new GM.

not so sure Brad's not going to have a short leash for his tenure.  I believe his contract played a part in his promotion rather than bringing in a more-experienced front office person.  Brad may get a grace period this season by Wyc to get a plan together for the future but if he ends up floundering after 2 seasons with no clear plan for improvement in place (that's actually working) then I could see the team cutting bait on Brad when he's owed 2 less years on his deal.

Jeff Goodman thinks this move was driven entirely by contract.  He has like $30MM left on it.  Meanwhile Stephan A Smith is went bonkers that the failing coach was given a promotion.

It's bonkers to me that the coach with the longest active streak of advancing beyond the first round in the playoffs entering this season could be considered a failing coach.

agreed and that SAS is screaming mad about it gives a lot more credence to it being a good move than a bad one.