Grading Danny's deadline-day moves

[GreenCoffeeBean]

This deadline was a great opportunity to improve the roster significantly. Seeing the fire sale in Orlando - couldn’t we have gotten Gordon and Vucevic on top of Fournier.
Something like Kemba plus Tristan plus Nesmith plus 3 FRPs

Getting rid of Kemba is going to be hard. His contract is bad.

[Celtics4ever]

I gave us a B, we need a move and had to get under the cap.   I will miss Theis but no wants our bench assets so better off to use some the TPE because I did not see us trading for a star.

The dumping of Teague just when he getting it was strange to me.   I won' t lose any sleep over Green.    Not really that familiar with Wagner and Kornet.

I would say we've improved offensively but maybe not defensively.   I concur it depends on what happens in the buyout market.   If we could add a PF there it would be nice but we are only what 900K under the cap.

I hope to hell we don't see any Grant at five crap going forward.  He is over matched in that role.   Heck often struggles with 4's with size.   It still seems like we are in find out what we have role big time in going forward with Rob.   I guess the two bigs are insurance if Rob gets hurt.

This deadline was a great opportunity to improve the roster significantly. Seeing the fire sale in Orlando - couldn’t we have gotten Gordon and Vucevic on top of Fournier.  Something like Kemba plus Tristan plus Nesmith plus 3 FRPs

A pipedream,   I didn't see anyone taking a risk for Kemba and we had no one like Wendell Carter to offer and RJ Hampton was a good offer than Gordon.   Ainge is notoriously stingy  so no way he was serious about trading assets that could beat those.

[NKY fan]

This deadline was a great opportunity to improve the roster significantly. Seeing the fire sale in Orlando - couldn’t we have gotten Gordon and Vucevic on top of Fournier.
Something like Kemba plus Tristan plus Nesmith plus 3 FRPs

Getting rid of Kemba is going to be hard. His contract is bad.

Orlando would have taken him. They are rebuilding anyway. It’s just a weird position we are in. If our record was closer to 600 it could make sense to take advantage of the fire sale there but we are below 500 so it’s a little risky

[Tr1boy]

Can the new guys be eligible to play tomorrow vs Bucks?

With no Theis and TT... Celts will be seriously shorthanded at C position

[Celtics4ever]

This deadline was a great opportunity to improve the roster significantly. Seeing the fire sale in Orlando - couldn’t we have gotten Gordon and Vucevic on top of Fournier.
Something like Kemba plus Tristan plus Nesmith plus 3 FRPs

Getting rid of Kemba is going to be hard. His contract is bad.

Orlando would have taken him. They are rebuilding anyway. It’s just a weird position we are in. If our record was closer to 600 it could make sense to take advantage of the fire sale there but we are below 500 so it’s a little risky

No one wants a guy that can 't play back to backs, reliably.

[Who]

F

Because?

(1) Downgraded from Theis (top 20ish center) to Mo Wagner (top 75ish center)

(2) Used TPE on a solid but unexceptional player in Fournier who they could easily have gotten a similar talent this summer. No reason to rush into using the TPE without getting a better talent back in return (like A.Gordon). Better to keep the options open to see if a better opportunity arises. If not, they could've settled for something similar to this during the summer.

[aingeforthree]

I loved the moves. Feels like this should help Brad figure out his rotations.

Let’s get Kemba & Smart fully healthy, and add another SF/PF/C in the buyout category. Then let’s go win some of those crunch time games (won 11 out of 30).

[ozgod]

This deadline was a great opportunity to improve the roster significantly. Seeing the fire sale in Orlando - couldn’t we have gotten Gordon and Vucevic on top of Fournier.
Something like Kemba plus Tristan plus Nesmith plus 3 FRPs

Takes two to tango, I doubt we could have gotten Vucevic and/or Gordon without giving up a lot. They're not going to take Kemba who looks like damaged goods or Nesmith who sometimes looks like he doesn't know where he's supposed to be. Honestly, if you were Orlando would you?

[RJ87]

I'm on the fence between a C- and D+.

Danny gets points for effort because I truly expected him to do nothing as he's done in the past during the deadline. But as I said in another thread, the moves themselves feel like we're rearranging the deck chairs, but the deck still has dry-rot.

Danny claimed he wouldn't spend the TPE on an expiring deal that was a bandaid, and then does exactly that. Are we paying Fournier this summer? Because the team followed up bringing him in with salary shedding moves which means the marching orders from ownership is to stay out of the tax.

We still have a bunch of young guys on the roster that won't offer much. Nesmith gets further pushed down the depth chart with Fournier coming in this season. So what are we doing? Are we rebuilding around the Jays? Are we trying to compete? Neither of these moves clarified anything. We still have no identity as an organization or as a team.

[Roy H.]

This deadline was a great opportunity to improve the roster significantly. Seeing the fire sale in Orlando - couldn’t we have gotten Gordon and Vucevic on top of Fournier.
Something like Kemba plus Tristan plus Nesmith plus 3 FRPs

They got a young prospect plus three better first round picks without having to take back Kemba's salary.

[td450]

C-

I like getting Fournier and think we should be able to keep him. He'd be a nice long term 6th man.

I do not understand not pulling the trigger on Gordon. This is a brutal position to find talent for. We have a huge hole at the 4 spot, and he's a 25 year old with elite athleticism, well above average defense and nice offensive skills for a guy you want to start, but not carry the offense. Maybe they know something here than we don't, but he seemed like a very good long term solution at power forward. We still have no one better than Grant Williams to play there. When are we going to be able to fill this spot? We didn't need great. We need a plus starter there.

Marcus Smart is a fan favorite, but he's never going to be at peace with his role for this team and there won't be minutes for him long term unless both Langford and Nesmith fail. We have little use for one or two draft picks right now. We already have 4 very young prospects who need minutes in Langford, Nesmith Pritchard and RWilliams.

[aingeforthree]

I'm on the fence between a C- and D+.

Danny gets points for effort because I truly expected him to do nothing as he's done in the past during the deadline. But as I said in another thread, the moves themselves feel like we're rearranging the deck chairs, but the deck still has dry-rot.

Danny claimed he wouldn't spend the TPE on an expiring deal that was a bandaid, and then does exactly that. Are we paying Fournier this summer? Because the team followed up bringing him in with salary shedding moves which means the marching orders from ownership is to stay out of the tax.

We still have a bunch of young guys on the roster that won't offer much. Nesmith gets further pushed down the depth chart with Fournier coming in this season. So what are we doing? Are we rebuilding around the Jays? Are we trying to compete? Neither of these moves clarified anything. We still have no identity as an organization or as a team.

You didn’t give up anything worth merit for Fournier. This helps us this year big time. Get our players healthy, grab another buyout candidate, and let’s win some games. We’re right there.

I still think the biggest decision is in the summer. I personally think he trades Jaylen Brown at some point. But for what ? I don’t think two ball stoppers like Tatum/Brown works. You have to move one IMO

[NKY fan]

This deadline was a great opportunity to improve the roster significantly. Seeing the fire sale in Orlando - couldn’t we have gotten Gordon and Vucevic on top of Fournier.
Something like Kemba plus Tristan plus Nesmith plus 3 FRPs

Takes two to tango, I doubt we could have gotten Vucevic and/or Gordon without giving up a lot. They're not going to take Kemba who looks like damaged goods or Nesmith who sometimes looks like he doesn't know where he's supposed to be. Honestly, if you were Orlando would you?

Well 3 FRPs is what they got when you add it all up. We could have added Timelord too . It’s just feels like a cheap price to pay for an all star center and two very good role players especially if you’re not a draft pick lover.
I think Orlando would have done it . It’s convenient for them plus he will help them tank. I mean at some point he will go out in a trade and we have to include picks.
If I have to do a deadline redo I would be fine with sending Kemba + Nesmith + Romeo + Timelord + 3 FRPs. We would have so much more fire power ( PG a little thin) and complete as a team. Now it’s the same old let’s wait till time X then decide to wait till time X + Y and it’s always the same

[NKY fan]

This deadline was a great opportunity to improve the roster significantly. Seeing the fire sale in Orlando - couldn’t we have gotten Gordon and Vucevic on top of Fournier.
Something like Kemba plus Tristan plus Nesmith plus 3 FRPs

They got a young prospect plus three better first round picks without having to take back Kemba's salary.

Sadly our picks will be very comparable to Bulls picks lol

[Rondo9]

Like I said in the other thread, Celticsblog: Whine when the make a trade, whine when they don't. This is a solid get and it's building around Jayson and Jaylen. I think he'll contribute greatly to this team.