Evan Fourniers next contract

[perks-a-beast]

No way the Celtics are able to afford this guy after this season, right? There are teams like the Knicks and the Bulls who I can see lining up to sign him somewhere in the 16-20 mill a season range..

[todd_days_41]

The Atlantic speculated that the Cs and EF may have already agreed on the framework of an extension as part of the deal.

[Roy H.]

I’d be down with $16 to $18 million.

[Celtics2021]

The Atlantic speculated that the Cs and EF may have already agreed on the framework of an extension as part of the deal.

If so they could make it official with an extend-and-trade today, as opposed to leaving us in suspense for the offseason.

[perks-a-beast]

I’d be down with $16 to $18 million.

Actually makes sense since that’s what Joe Harris got and they are very similar players.

[tonydelk]

I’d be down with $16 to $18 million.

Actually makes sense since that’s what Joe Harris got and they are very similar players.

Sign me up.  3 or 4 yr deal.  He's 28 until October. 

[Who]

Fournier is an MLE level player who will get paid a lot more than the MLE.

Whoever pays him will overpay him.

[RJ87]

Fournier is an MLE level player who will get paid a lot more than the MLE.

Whoever pays him will overpay him.

It us.

Gordon Hayward and 4 second round picks for the right to pay Evan Fournier.

These are the moves that make GM's into kings.

[PAOBoston]

Baseline would be Joe Harris contract imo. Think that is fair.

[Roy H.]

Fournier is an MLE level player who will get paid a lot more than the MLE.

Whoever pays him will overpay him.

I don’t agree.

How many guys who can score 19 ppg on 39% 3PT% settle for the MLE.  He’s 28 years old, and is around average as a passer and defender.

[Who]

Fournier is an MLE level player who will get paid a lot more than the MLE.

Whoever pays him will overpay him.

I don’t agree.

How many guys who can score 19 ppg on 39% 3PT% settle for the MLE.  He’s 28 years old, and is around average as a passer and defender.

Fournier is one of those guys that has been padding his stats on bad offensive teams. There is no way he puts up those numbers on a top team.

He is a 14ppg guy on good shooting percentages with solid ball-handling & passing, subpar defense, mediocre rebounding. That is an MLE guy.

[PAOBoston]

Fournier is an MLE level player who will get paid a lot more than the MLE.

Whoever pays him will overpay him.

I don’t agree.

How many guys who can score 19 ppg on 39% 3PT% settle for the MLE.  He’s 28 years old, and is around average as a passer and defender.

Fournier is one of those guys that has been padding his stats on bad offensive teams. There is no way he puts up those numbers on a top team.

He is a 14ppg guy on good shooting percentages with solid ball-handling & passing, subpar defense, mediocre rebounding. That is an MLE guy.

Do you consider Joe Harris/Bogdanovic etc MLE type players?

[Jvalin]

Fournier is an MLE level player who will get paid a lot more than the MLE.

Whoever pays him will overpay him.

I don’t agree.

How many guys who can score 19 ppg on 39% 3PT% settle for the MLE.  He’s 28 years old, and is around average as a passer and defender.

He's a below average defender.
- short wingspan(6-7 ½) relative to his height (6-7)
- below average lateral quickness
- below average athleticsim

The advanced stats don't like his defense either.
defensive RAPTOR: -2.3
DBPM: -0.8

He's a crafty scorer though and a dangerous shooter.

Don't like the trade, but I don't hate it either. In a vacuum, we got him on the cheap. Thing is, he ain't moving the needle for us. Let's face it, the C's aren't legit contenders. What's the point in sacrificing future assets for players who aren't moving the needle for us? Most importantly, I don't like the fit next to the Jays. Fournier is a score-first player. I reckon we needed a pass-first player.

If the rumored Indy deal was on the table during the offseason, I'd much rather have Turner + McDermott + 4 second round picks over Fournier + an $11 million TPE.

[Who]

Fournier is an MLE level player who will get paid a lot more than the MLE.

Whoever pays him will overpay him.

I don’t agree.

How many guys who can score 19 ppg on 39% 3PT% settle for the MLE.  He’s 28 years old, and is around average as a passer and defender.

Fournier is one of those guys that has been padding his stats on bad offensive teams. There is no way he puts up those numbers on a top team.

He is a 14ppg guy on good shooting percentages with solid ball-handling & passing, subpar defense, mediocre rebounding. That is an MLE guy.

Do you consider Joe Harris/Bogdanovic etc MLE type players?

Joe Harris? Yes
Bogdanovic? No.

Or at least summer when he signed his contract with Atlanta, I did not view him as an MLE player. I thought he showed good talent in Sacramento and had more to offer. That he could be a 3rd/4th option on a top team. Given his struggles in Atlanta, I may be wrong about that.

But last summer? Yes, I thought he was worth more than the MLE. Now, I am not so sure. His play in Atlanta has been disappointing and along the lines of what I expect to see with Fournier.

[Surferdad]

Fournier is an MLE level player who will get paid a lot more than the MLE.

Whoever pays him will overpay him.

I don’t agree.

How many guys who can score 19 ppg on 39% 3PT% settle for the MLE.  He’s 28 years old, and is around average as a passer and defender.

He's a below average defender.
- short wingspan(6-7 ½) relative to his height (6-7)
- below average lateral quickness
- below average athleticsim

The advanced stats don't like his defense either.
defensive RAPTOR: -2.3
DBPM: -0.8

He's a crafty scorer though and a dangerous shooter.

Don't like the trade, but I don't hate it either. In a vacuum, we got him on the cheap. Thing is, he ain't moving the needle for us. Let's face it, the C's aren't legit contenders. What's the point in sacrificing future assets for players who aren't moving the needle for us?

If the rumored Indy deal was on the table during the offseason, I'd much rather have Turner + McDermott + 4 second round picks over Fournier + an $11 million TPE.

Right, he ain't moving the needle and he WAS cheap.  However, DA did not give up much.  This will make the rest of the season interesting, and probably keep some fans from from giving up on this team altogether.  The latter is not normal C's approach but I think Wyc believes it was necessary this year due to lackluster performance.