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Re: Danny Looking for a Center?
« Reply #15 on: February 08, 2021, 09:57:51 PM »

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Re: Danny Looking for a Center?
« Reply #16 on: February 08, 2021, 10:02:17 PM »

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Me and Kevin O'Connor have the same sources

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Re: Danny Looking for a Center?
« Reply #17 on: February 08, 2021, 10:40:59 PM »

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Maybe it's Vucevic.

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Re: Danny Looking for a Center?
« Reply #18 on: February 08, 2021, 11:05:33 PM »

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R. Williams is the center we need and Theis is the power forward we need. Tacko should be your third big. Stevens just doesn't know what he's doing, at all.

Embiid is playing like an MVP this year. There is no center in the league who can stop him one on one this year. The expectation should not be to find a center who can stop Jokic and Embiid. No such center exists. We just need to play the best players. Stevens is not playing the best players.

Re: Danny Looking for a Center?
« Reply #19 on: February 09, 2021, 12:53:21 AM »

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Im not concerned with TT, he will be very good for us come playoff time. We do need a banger to help with Embiid though, and getting PJ Tucker would be a great addition for a run.

Re: Danny Looking for a Center?
« Reply #20 on: February 09, 2021, 02:37:47 AM »

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R. Williams is the center we need and Theis is the power forward we need. Tacko should be your third big. Stevens just doesn't know what he's doing, at all.

Embiid is playing like an MVP this year. There is no center in the league who can stop him one on one this year. The expectation should not be to find a center who can stop Jokic and Embiid. No such center exists. We just need to play the best players. Stevens is not playing the best players.
“Tacko should be your third big” hahaha
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Re: Danny Looking for a Center?
« Reply #21 on: February 09, 2021, 02:57:51 AM »

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My target would be Mo Bamba. His advanced stats are awesome this season. Obviously, we have a very small sample size.

BPM: +9.7 (3rd best in the league)
WS/48: .254 (8th best in the league)
BLK%: 9.1 (10th best in the league)
TS%: 67.5
TRB%: 24.9 (9th best in the league)
PER: 34.3 (2nd best in the league)
Total RAPTOR: +4.7

I bet the Magic are willing to part ways with him.

https://twitter.com/BQRMagic/status/1358916557741707264?s=20

I'd also be happy with Khem Birch. He's a mobile big man who can play D on the perimeter, hence he'd be a terrific fit in our defensive system. 
« Last Edit: February 09, 2021, 03:03:52 AM by Jvalin »

Re: Danny Looking for a Center?
« Reply #22 on: February 09, 2021, 07:22:36 AM »

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My target would be Mo Bamba. His advanced stats are awesome this season. Obviously, we have a very small sample size.

BPM: +9.7 (3rd best in the league)
WS/48: .254 (8th best in the league)
BLK%: 9.1 (10th best in the league)
TS%: 67.5
TRB%: 24.9 (9th best in the league)
PER: 34.3 (2nd best in the league)
Total RAPTOR: +4.7

I bet the Magic are willing to part ways with him.

https://twitter.com/BQRMagic/status/1358916557741707264?s=20

I'd also be happy with Khem Birch. He's a mobile big man who can play D on the perimeter, hence he'd be a terrific fit in our defensive system.
Mo Bamba has played 60 minutes in 9 games. Those advanced stats are worthless, especially given they occurred during garbage time of blowouts.
« Last Edit: February 09, 2021, 10:03:32 AM by nickagneta »

Re: Danny Looking for a Center?
« Reply #23 on: February 09, 2021, 07:57:45 AM »

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My target would be Mo Bamba. His advanced stats are awesome this season. Obviously, we have a very small sample size.

BPM: +9.7 (3rd best in the league)
WS/48: .254 (8th best in the league)
BLK%: 9.1 (10th best in the league)
TS%: 67.5
TRB%: 24.9 (9th best in the league)
PER: 34.3 (2nd best in the league)
Total RAPTOR: +4.7

I bet the Magic are willing to part ways with him.

https://twitter.com/BQRMagic/status/1358916557741707264?s=20

I'd also be happy with Khem Birch. He's a mobile big man who can play D on the perimeter, hence he'd be a terrific fit in our defensive system.
Insanely easy for stats to be totally misleading when your example is playing six and a half MPG. Feel like you're being blind to simple analysis in favour of advanced metrics for the sake of advanced metrics here.
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Re: Danny Looking for a Center?
« Reply #24 on: February 09, 2021, 08:30:55 AM »

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My target would be Mo Bamba. His advanced stats are awesome this season. Obviously, we have a very small sample size.

BPM: +9.7 (3rd best in the league)
WS/48: .254 (8th best in the league)
BLK%: 9.1 (10th best in the league)
TS%: 67.5
TRB%: 24.9 (9th best in the league)
PER: 34.3 (2nd best in the league)
Total RAPTOR: +4.7

I bet the Magic are willing to part ways with him.

https://twitter.com/BQRMagic/status/1358916557741707264?s=20

I'd also be happy with Khem Birch. He's a mobile big man who can play D on the perimeter, hence he'd be a terrific fit in our defensive system.
Insanely easy for stats to be totally misleading when your example is playing six and a half MPG. Feel like you're being blind to simple analysis in favour of advanced metrics for the sake of advanced metrics here.
What's the simple analysis then? I'm the first one to admit that we got a small sample size.

Here are his totals thus far this season. It seems like plenty of Magic fans are perplexed as to why he ain't getting more minutes.

https://twitter.com/RGeezyNBA/status/1358242436481392640?s=20

Bamba is younger than Timelord. Imo, he has a higher upside, plus he'd be a better fit in our system. Only reason he ain't playing is cause the Magic are super deep at the Center position. Vucevic is an all-star caliber player. Birch is a terrific small-ball Center. I'd be happy with Birch instead of Bamba as well.



The Magic could have a use for a wing prospect. I bet they'd at least consider this deal. I'd then trade Timelord in a separate deal. Let's say for future pick(s) + salary filler/cap relief.
« Last Edit: February 09, 2021, 08:44:31 AM by Jvalin »

Re: Danny Looking for a Center?
« Reply #25 on: February 09, 2021, 08:32:23 AM »

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I also find it curious why any member of a teams front office with legit knowledge of the teams plans would be talking to the media other then to spread false propaganda.


I will say that from the minute Thompson was signed I had my doubts about the make up of the Center rotation. As individual players I like Thompson, Theis and R Williams but as a rotating group they lack versatility. On defense they all lack the size to match up against larger centers are are grossly over-matched vs Embiid. On offense aside from Theis's 3pt shot they bring very little in terms of perimeter skills. Thompson is limited to post ups and put backs while R Williams is purely a dive man.

In my mind the ideal Cs center rotation would be to have

One Smaller big who can switch on D, and hit an open 3 on offense ( Theis fills this role)

One larger 6'11 + 240+ big who isn't a P&R liability but can not be overwhelmed by the likes of Embiid (Baynes was this guy in the past)

One small ball 5 (Grant currently fills this role, Larry Nance would be the dream fit)


This isn't to say that Thompson and R Williams cant fit but their size and skills sets are not ideal suited for what this team needs.
« Last Edit: February 09, 2021, 08:39:56 AM by CFAN38 »
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Re: Danny Looking for a Center?
« Reply #26 on: February 09, 2021, 08:43:48 AM »

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My target would be Mo Bamba. His advanced stats are awesome this season. Obviously, we have a very small sample size.

BPM: +9.7 (3rd best in the league)
WS/48: .254 (8th best in the league)
BLK%: 9.1 (10th best in the league)
TS%: 67.5
TRB%: 24.9 (9th best in the league)
PER: 34.3 (2nd best in the league)
Total RAPTOR: +4.7

I bet the Magic are willing to part ways with him.

https://twitter.com/BQRMagic/status/1358916557741707264?s=20

I'd also be happy with Khem Birch. He's a mobile big man who can play D on the perimeter, hence he'd be a terrific fit in our defensive system.
Insanely easy for stats to be totally misleading when your example is playing six and a half MPG. Feel like you're being blind to simple analysis in favour of advanced metrics for the sake of advanced metrics here.
What's the simple analysis then? I'm the first one to admit that we got a small sample size.

Here are his totals thus far this season. It seems like plenty of Magic fans are perplexed as to why he ain't getting more playing time.

https://twitter.com/RGeezyNBA/status/1358242436481392640?s=20

Bamba is younger than Timelord. Imo, he has a higher upside, plus he'd be a better fit in our system. Only reason he ain't playing is cause the Magic are super deep at the Center position. Vucevic is an all-star caliber player. Birch is a terrific mobile Center. I'd be happy with Birch instead of Bamba as well.



The Magic could have a use for a wing prospect. I bet they'd at least consider this deal. I'd then trade Timelord in a separate deal. Let's say for future pick(s) + salary filler/cap relief.

At the time of the 2018 draft was and still am a huge Mo Bamba fan. However If i'm the Celtics Id be hesitant to take on a project big when this team is looking to win now. If I was the GM of the Thunder I would be pushing hard to trade for Bamba and get him into a role as Horfords 20mpg backup for the rest of the season. 
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Re: Danny Looking for a Center?
« Reply #27 on: February 09, 2021, 08:49:41 AM »

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My target would be Mo Bamba. His advanced stats are awesome this season. Obviously, we have a very small sample size.

BPM: +9.7 (3rd best in the league)
WS/48: .254 (8th best in the league)
BLK%: 9.1 (10th best in the league)
TS%: 67.5
TRB%: 24.9 (9th best in the league)
PER: 34.3 (2nd best in the league)
Total RAPTOR: +4.7

I bet the Magic are willing to part ways with him.

https://twitter.com/BQRMagic/status/1358916557741707264?s=20

I'd also be happy with Khem Birch. He's a mobile big man who can play D on the perimeter, hence he'd be a terrific fit in our defensive system.
Insanely easy for stats to be totally misleading when your example is playing six and a half MPG. Feel like you're being blind to simple analysis in favour of advanced metrics for the sake of advanced metrics here.
What's the simple analysis then? I'm the first one to admit that we got a small sample size.

Here are his totals thus far this season. It seems like plenty of Magic fans are perplexed as to why he ain't getting more playing time.

https://twitter.com/RGeezyNBA/status/1358242436481392640?s=20

Bamba is younger than Timelord. Imo, he has a higher upside, plus he'd be a better fit in our system. Only reason he ain't playing is cause the Magic are super deep at the Center position. Vucevic is an all-star caliber player. Birch is a terrific mobile Center. I'd be happy with Birch instead of Bamba as well.



The Magic could have a use for a wing prospect. I bet they'd at least consider this deal. I'd then trade Timelord in a separate deal. Let's say for future pick(s) + salary filler/cap relief.

At the time of the 2018 draft was and still am a huge Mo Bamba fan. However If i'm the celtics Id be hesitant to take on a project big when this team is looking to win now.
Realistically speaking, this team ain't winning now mate. We both know this. If you ask me, we are the 4th best team in the East. Plus, it's not like Romeo is a win-now player. We'd be swapping prospects.

Re: Danny Looking for a Center?
« Reply #28 on: February 09, 2021, 08:52:34 AM »

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My target would be Mo Bamba. His advanced stats are awesome this season. Obviously, we have a very small sample size.

BPM: +9.7 (3rd best in the league)
WS/48: .254 (8th best in the league)
BLK%: 9.1 (10th best in the league)
TS%: 67.5
TRB%: 24.9 (9th best in the league)
PER: 34.3 (2nd best in the league)
Total RAPTOR: +4.7

I bet the Magic are willing to part ways with him.

https://twitter.com/BQRMagic/status/1358916557741707264?s=20

I'd also be happy with Khem Birch. He's a mobile big man who can play D on the perimeter, hence he'd be a terrific fit in our defensive system.
Insanely easy for stats to be totally misleading when your example is playing six and a half MPG. Feel like you're being blind to simple analysis in favour of advanced metrics for the sake of advanced metrics here.
Where is this type of common sense for Timelord?!
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Re: Danny Looking for a Center?
« Reply #29 on: February 09, 2021, 08:58:05 AM »

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My target would be Mo Bamba. His advanced stats are awesome this season. Obviously, we have a very small sample size.

BPM: +9.7 (3rd best in the league)
WS/48: .254 (8th best in the league)
BLK%: 9.1 (10th best in the league)
TS%: 67.5
TRB%: 24.9 (9th best in the league)
PER: 34.3 (2nd best in the league)
Total RAPTOR: +4.7

I bet the Magic are willing to part ways with him.

https://twitter.com/BQRMagic/status/1358916557741707264?s=20

I'd also be happy with Khem Birch. He's a mobile big man who can play D on the perimeter, hence he'd be a terrific fit in our defensive system.
Insanely easy for stats to be totally misleading when your example is playing six and a half MPG. Feel like you're being blind to simple analysis in favour of advanced metrics for the sake of advanced metrics here.
What's the simple analysis then? I'm the first one to admit that we got a small sample size.

Here are his totals thus far this season. It seems like plenty of Magic fans are perplexed as to why he ain't getting more minutes.

https://twitter.com/RGeezyNBA/status/1358242436481392640?s=20

Bamba is younger than Timelord. Imo, he has a higher upside, plus he'd be a better fit in our system. Only reason he ain't playing is cause the Magic are super deep at the Center position. Vucevic is an all-star caliber player. Birch is a terrific small-ball Center. I'd be happy with Birch instead of Bamba as well.



The Magic could have a use for a wing prospect. I bet they'd at least consider this deal. I'd then trade Timelord in a separate deal. Let's say for future pick(s) + salary filler/cap relief.
The simple analysis is to accept that there isn't a large enough sample size for his stats to stabilise as well as get a good idea of his skills/style of play/ability with the eye test. I will say that the moment he starts playing Robert Williams type of minutes while still looking good will probably make him very difficult to pry from the Magic when you consider his insane physical tools (he's taller, longer and more mobile than Williams).

Btw I'd love Birch, he's a very good big man who blends in old school banging and offensive rebounding with modern day quickness and athleticism.
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