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Re: Now DA should be on the hot seat
« Reply #120 on: November 21, 2020, 09:23:24 PM »

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And he just got Thompson.

Still wanna fire him?

Tristian Thompson averaged 12 and 10 on arguably the worst team in the NBA. He is 29, an absolute liability at the end of the game with his FT shooting.

So yes, I’m still on board with firing DA.

I don't want to demand a firing of Ainge.
But there isn't much reason to be thrilled with Thompson.
Clearly Turner is the younger and superior player, if he was on the table in a S-and-T with the Pacers we lost value.
What is worse is you traded a 1st and Kanter, your backup center who makes 5 million to now sign this guy to be a backup at 9 million. You lose offense for defense, lose a pick, plus pay more. The whole league is doing it the other way in paying offense and getting defenders cheap. DA should retire.

Thompson is a *lot* better than Kanter. At least as good a rebounder and garbage man around the basket, far more mobile.
For the money and the pick though? I'd much rather have Veron Carey Jr and Kanter than Thompson all day.
Really? You'd rather have 2 guys that might not even be in the rotation most of the year, than a impact guy who's gonna share starter minutes with Theis? I'm taking Thompson 10 times out if 10.
Thats the point Thompson isn't even good enough to get big minutes. So why not keep Kanter as a backup. Carey can develop into a younger better Thompson in a year or two that moves you closer to contention. Thompson doesn't move the needle towards that this year or next.

Re: Now DA should be on the hot seat
« Reply #121 on: November 21, 2020, 09:26:58 PM »

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And he just got Thompson.

Still wanna fire him?

Tristian Thompson averaged 12 and 10 on arguably the worst team in the NBA. He is 29, an absolute liability at the end of the game with his FT shooting.

So yes, I’m still on board with firing DA.

I don't want to demand a firing of Ainge.
But there isn't much reason to be thrilled with Thompson.
Clearly Turner is the younger and superior player, if he was on the table in a S-and-T with the Pacers we lost value.
What is worse is you traded a 1st and Kanter, your backup center who makes 5 million to now sign this guy to be a backup at 9 million. You lose offense for defense, lose a pick, plus pay more. The whole league is doing it the other way in paying offense and getting defenders cheap. DA should retire.

Thompson is a *lot* better than Kanter. At least as good a rebounder and garbage man around the basket, far more mobile.
For the money and the pick though? I'd much rather have Veron Carey Jr and Kanter than Thompson all day.
Really? You'd rather have 2 guys that might not even be in the rotation most of the year, than a impact guy who's gonna share starter minutes with Theis? I'm taking Thompson 10 times out if 10.
Thats the point Thompson isn't even good enough to get big minutes. So why not keep Kanter as a backup. Carey can develop into a younger better Thompson in a year or two that moves you closer to contention. Thompson doesn't move the needle towards that this year or next.
I'm just gonna have to disagree on that. He's definitely good enough to give us production, far more than Kanter and Carey ever will. You act as if it's a guarantee that Carey will even develop. Do you know the percentage of 2nd round draft picks that ever even become a role player? It's minuscule. We have a developing big man in RWIII. We don't need another one.
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Re: Now DA should be on the hot seat
« Reply #122 on: November 21, 2020, 09:35:56 PM »

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Re: Now DA should be on the hot seat
« Reply #123 on: November 21, 2020, 09:44:36 PM »

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And he just got Thompson.

Still wanna fire him?

Tristian Thompson averaged 12 and 10 on arguably the worst team in the NBA. He is 29, an absolute liability at the end of the game with his FT shooting.

So yes, I’m still on board with firing DA.

I don't want to demand a firing of Ainge.
But there isn't much reason to be thrilled with Thompson.
Clearly Turner is the younger and superior player, if he was on the table in a S-and-T with the Pacers we lost value.
What is worse is you traded a 1st and Kanter, your backup center who makes 5 million to now sign this guy to be a backup at 9 million. You lose offense for defense, lose a pick, plus pay more. The whole league is doing it the other way in paying offense and getting defenders cheap. DA should retire.

Thompson is a *lot* better than Kanter. At least as good a rebounder and garbage man around the basket, far more mobile.
For the money and the pick though? I'd much rather have Veron Carey Jr and Kanter than Thompson all day.
Really? You'd rather have 2 guys that might not even be in the rotation most of the year, than a impact guy who's gonna share starter minutes with Theis? I'm taking Thompson 10 times out if 10.
Utter ridiculousness isn't it?
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Re: Now DA should be on the hot seat
« Reply #124 on: November 21, 2020, 09:47:04 PM »

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And he just got Thompson.

Still wanna fire him?

Tristian Thompson averaged 12 and 10 on arguably the worst team in the NBA. He is 29, an absolute liability at the end of the game with his FT shooting.

So yes, I’m still on board with firing DA.

I don't want to demand a firing of Ainge.
But there isn't much reason to be thrilled with Thompson.
Clearly Turner is the younger and superior player, if he was on the table in a S-and-T with the Pacers we lost value.
What is worse is you traded a 1st and Kanter, your backup center who makes 5 million to now sign this guy to be a backup at 9 million. You lose offense for defense, lose a pick, plus pay more. The whole league is doing it the other way in paying offense and getting defenders cheap. DA should retire.

Thompson is a *lot* better than Kanter. At least as good a rebounder and garbage man around the basket, far more mobile.
For the money and the pick though? I'd much rather have Veron Carey Jr and Kanter than Thompson all day.
Really? You'd rather have 2 guys that might not even be in the rotation most of the year, than a impact guy who's gonna share starter minutes with Theis? I'm taking Thompson 10 times out if 10.
Utter ridiculousness isn't it?

And this is why people like you don't run nba franchises.  What a poor thought out statement.  The Danny haters in full force tonight. 

Re: Now DA should be on the hot seat
« Reply #125 on: November 21, 2020, 09:49:34 PM »

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And he just got Thompson.

Still wanna fire him?

Tristian Thompson averaged 12 and 10 on arguably the worst team in the NBA. He is 29, an absolute liability at the end of the game with his FT shooting.

So yes, I’m still on board with firing DA.

I don't want to demand a firing of Ainge.
But there isn't much reason to be thrilled with Thompson.
Clearly Turner is the younger and superior player, if he was on the table in a S-and-T with the Pacers we lost value.
What is worse is you traded a 1st and Kanter, your backup center who makes 5 million to now sign this guy to be a backup at 9 million. You lose offense for defense, lose a pick, plus pay more. The whole league is doing it the other way in paying offense and getting defenders cheap. DA should retire.

Thompson is a *lot* better than Kanter. At least as good a rebounder and garbage man around the basket, far more mobile.
For the money and the pick though? I'd much rather have Veron Carey Jr and Kanter than Thompson all day.
Really? You'd rather have 2 guys that might not even be in the rotation most of the year, than a impact guy who's gonna share starter minutes with Theis? I'm taking Thompson 10 times out if 10.
Utter ridiculousness isn't it?

And this is why people like you don't run nba franchises.  What a poor thought out statement.  The Danny haters in full force tonight.
? I'm defending Danny. Unless you meant Csfan
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Re: Now DA should be on the hot seat
« Reply #126 on: November 21, 2020, 09:51:08 PM »

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And he just got Thompson.

Still wanna fire him?

Tristian Thompson averaged 12 and 10 on arguably the worst team in the NBA. He is 29, an absolute liability at the end of the game with his FT shooting.

So yes, I’m still on board with firing DA.

I don't want to demand a firing of Ainge.
But there isn't much reason to be thrilled with Thompson.
Clearly Turner is the younger and superior player, if he was on the table in a S-and-T with the Pacers we lost value.
What is worse is you traded a 1st and Kanter, your backup center who makes 5 million to now sign this guy to be a backup at 9 million. You lose offense for defense, lose a pick, plus pay more. The whole league is doing it the other way in paying offense and getting defenders cheap. DA should retire.

Thompson is a *lot* better than Kanter. At least as good a rebounder and garbage man around the basket, far more mobile.
For the money and the pick though? I'd much rather have Veron Carey Jr and Kanter than Thompson all day.
Really? You'd rather have 2 guys that might not even be in the rotation most of the year, than a impact guy who's gonna share starter minutes with Theis? I'm taking Thompson 10 times out if 10.
Thats the point Thompson isn't even good enough to get big minutes. So why not keep Kanter as a backup. Carey can develop into a younger better Thompson in a year or two that moves you closer to contention. Thompson doesn't move the needle towards that this year or next.
I'm just gonna have to disagree on that. He's definitely good enough to give us production, far more than Kanter and Carey ever will. You act as if it's a guarantee that Carey will even develop. Do you know the percentage of 2nd round draft picks that ever even become a role player? It's minuscule. We have a developing big man in RWIII. We don't need another one.
And you act like Thompson is a guaranteed fit. Go look at last year Kanter signing on this board. Thompson can be just as bad as a fit, he very much likes to sit in the paint and clog things, his out side shot isn't consistent or his defense. He has to be "locked in" to be good on D. We can very easily see Thompson benched at end of games, I very much expect it. So how is he a big upgrade over Kanter when they play so much a like? Being more mobile isn't enough it's playing fit. Baynes would have been better. Its a bad move as Thompson is getting paid almost double and it costed a 1st to move Kanter.

Re: Now DA should be on the hot seat
« Reply #127 on: November 22, 2020, 12:01:26 AM »

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This must be the requisite "fire Danny" thread for this offseason. I remember it coming out just as Kyrie left, and then got bumped when we let Al walk for nothing because we didn't give him $110m. We seemed to do pretty well after both those guys left.  :angel:

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Re: Now DA should be on the hot seat
« Reply #128 on: November 22, 2020, 12:09:23 AM »

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And he just got Thompson.

Still wanna fire him?

Tristian Thompson averaged 12 and 10 on arguably the worst team in the NBA. He is 29, an absolute liability at the end of the game with his FT shooting.

So yes, I’m still on board with firing DA.

I don't want to demand a firing of Ainge.
But there isn't much reason to be thrilled with Thompson.
Clearly Turner is the younger and superior player, if he was on the table in a S-and-T with the Pacers we lost value.
What is worse is you traded a 1st and Kanter, your backup center who makes 5 million to now sign this guy to be a backup at 9 million. You lose offense for defense, lose a pick, plus pay more. The whole league is doing it the other way in paying offense and getting defenders cheap. DA should retire.

Thompson is a *lot* better than Kanter. At least as good a rebounder and garbage man around the basket, far more mobile.
For the money and the pick though? I'd much rather have Veron Carey Jr and Kanter than Thompson all day.
Really? You'd rather have 2 guys that might not even be in the rotation most of the year, than a impact guy who's gonna share starter minutes with Theis? I'm taking Thompson 10 times out if 10.
Thats the point Thompson isn't even good enough to get big minutes. So why not keep Kanter as a backup. Carey can develop into a younger better Thompson in a year or two that moves you closer to contention. Thompson doesn't move the needle towards that this year or next.
I'm just gonna have to disagree on that. He's definitely good enough to give us production, far more than Kanter and Carey ever will. You act as if it's a guarantee that Carey will even develop. Do you know the percentage of 2nd round draft picks that ever even become a role player? It's minuscule. We have a developing big man in RWIII. We don't need another one.
And you act like Thompson is a guaranteed fit. Go look at last year Kanter signing on this board. Thompson can be just as bad as a fit, he very much likes to sit in the paint and clog things, his out side shot isn't consistent or his defense. He has to be "locked in" to be good on D. We can very easily see Thompson benched at end of games, I very much expect it. So how is he a big upgrade over Kanter when they play so much a like? Being more mobile isn't enough it's playing fit. Baynes would have been better. Its a bad move as Thompson is getting paid almost double and it costed a 1st to move Kanter.
Because Thompson is playable against most of the league. Kanter isn't. That's all there is to it. You can say they're basically the same all you want, but that simple fact makes Thompson much more valuable. Brad has a good track record of getting guys to buy into playing defense, so I'm not very concerned on that front.
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Re: Now DA should be on the hot seat
« Reply #129 on: November 22, 2020, 12:16:12 AM »

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And he just got Thompson.

Still wanna fire him?

Tristian Thompson averaged 12 and 10 on arguably the worst team in the NBA. He is 29, an absolute liability at the end of the game with his FT shooting.

So yes, I’m still on board with firing DA.

I don't want to demand a firing of Ainge.
But there isn't much reason to be thrilled with Thompson.
Clearly Turner is the younger and superior player, if he was on the table in a S-and-T with the Pacers we lost value.
What is worse is you traded a 1st and Kanter, your backup center who makes 5 million to now sign this guy to be a backup at 9 million. You lose offense for defense, lose a pick, plus pay more. The whole league is doing it the other way in paying offense and getting defenders cheap. DA should retire.

Thompson is a *lot* better than Kanter. At least as good a rebounder and garbage man around the basket, far more mobile.
For the money and the pick though? I'd much rather have Veron Carey Jr and Kanter than Thompson all day.
Really? You'd rather have 2 guys that might not even be in the rotation most of the year, than a impact guy who's gonna share starter minutes with Theis? I'm taking Thompson 10 times out if 10.
Thats the point Thompson isn't even good enough to get big minutes. So why not keep Kanter as a backup. Carey can develop into a younger better Thompson in a year or two that moves you closer to contention. Thompson doesn't move the needle towards that this year or next.
I'm just gonna have to disagree on that. He's definitely good enough to give us production, far more than Kanter and Carey ever will. You act as if it's a guarantee that Carey will even develop. Do you know the percentage of 2nd round draft picks that ever even become a role player? It's minuscule. We have a developing big man in RWIII. We don't need another one.
And you act like Thompson is a guaranteed fit. Go look at last year Kanter signing on this board. Thompson can be just as bad as a fit, he very much likes to sit in the paint and clog things, his out side shot isn't consistent or his defense. He has to be "locked in" to be good on D. We can very easily see Thompson benched at end of games, I very much expect it. So how is he a big upgrade over Kanter when they play so much a like? Being more mobile isn't enough it's playing fit. Baynes would have been better. Its a bad move as Thompson is getting paid almost double and it costed a 1st to move Kanter.
Because Thompson is playable against most of the league. Kanter isn't. That's all there is to it. You can say they're basically the same all you want, but that simple fact makes Thompson much more valuable. Brad has a good track record of getting guys to buy into playing defense, so I'm not very concerned on that front.

In Brad's team if they don't defend they don't play, simple as that.
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Re: Now DA should be on the hot seat
« Reply #130 on: November 22, 2020, 12:17:59 AM »

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And he just got Thompson.

Still wanna fire him?

Tristian Thompson averaged 12 and 10 on arguably the worst team in the NBA. He is 29, an absolute liability at the end of the game with his FT shooting.

So yes, I’m still on board with firing DA.

I don't want to demand a firing of Ainge.
But there isn't much reason to be thrilled with Thompson.
Clearly Turner is the younger and superior player, if he was on the table in a S-and-T with the Pacers we lost value.
What is worse is you traded a 1st and Kanter, your backup center who makes 5 million to now sign this guy to be a backup at 9 million. You lose offense for defense, lose a pick, plus pay more. The whole league is doing it the other way in paying offense and getting defenders cheap. DA should retire.

Thompson is a *lot* better than Kanter. At least as good a rebounder and garbage man around the basket, far more mobile.
For the money and the pick though? I'd much rather have Veron Carey Jr and Kanter than Thompson all day.
Really? You'd rather have 2 guys that might not even be in the rotation most of the year, than a impact guy who's gonna share starter minutes with Theis? I'm taking Thompson 10 times out if 10.
Thats the point Thompson isn't even good enough to get big minutes. So why not keep Kanter as a backup. Carey can develop into a younger better Thompson in a year or two that moves you closer to contention. Thompson doesn't move the needle towards that this year or next.
I'm just gonna have to disagree on that. He's definitely good enough to give us production, far more than Kanter and Carey ever will. You act as if it's a guarantee that Carey will even develop. Do you know the percentage of 2nd round draft picks that ever even become a role player? It's minuscule. We have a developing big man in RWIII. We don't need another one.
And you act like Thompson is a guaranteed fit. Go look at last year Kanter signing on this board. Thompson can be just as bad as a fit, he very much likes to sit in the paint and clog things, his out side shot isn't consistent or his defense. He has to be "locked in" to be good on D. We can very easily see Thompson benched at end of games, I very much expect it. So how is he a big upgrade over Kanter when they play so much a like? Being more mobile isn't enough it's playing fit. Baynes would have been better. Its a bad move as Thompson is getting paid almost double and it costed a 1st to move Kanter.
Because Thompson is playable against most of the league. Kanter isn't. That's all there is to it. You can say they're basically the same all you want, but that simple fact makes Thompson much more valuable. Brad has a good track record of getting guys to buy into playing defense, so I'm not very concerned on that front.
 
Not everyone buys into BS. We will see if Thompson brings it and fits or goes the way of Kanter.

Re: Now DA should be on the hot seat
« Reply #131 on: November 22, 2020, 12:19:11 AM »

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And he just got Thompson.

Still wanna fire him?

Tristian Thompson averaged 12 and 10 on arguably the worst team in the NBA. He is 29, an absolute liability at the end of the game with his FT shooting.

So yes, I’m still on board with firing DA.

I don't want to demand a firing of Ainge.
But there isn't much reason to be thrilled with Thompson.
Clearly Turner is the younger and superior player, if he was on the table in a S-and-T with the Pacers we lost value.
What is worse is you traded a 1st and Kanter, your backup center who makes 5 million to now sign this guy to be a backup at 9 million. You lose offense for defense, lose a pick, plus pay more. The whole league is doing it the other way in paying offense and getting defenders cheap. DA should retire.

Thompson is a *lot* better than Kanter. At least as good a rebounder and garbage man around the basket, far more mobile.
For the money and the pick though? I'd much rather have Veron Carey Jr and Kanter than Thompson all day.
Really? You'd rather have 2 guys that might not even be in the rotation most of the year, than a impact guy who's gonna share starter minutes with Theis? I'm taking Thompson 10 times out if 10.
Thats the point Thompson isn't even good enough to get big minutes. So why not keep Kanter as a backup. Carey can develop into a younger better Thompson in a year or two that moves you closer to contention. Thompson doesn't move the needle towards that this year or next.
I'm just gonna have to disagree on that. He's definitely good enough to give us production, far more than Kanter and Carey ever will. You act as if it's a guarantee that Carey will even develop. Do you know the percentage of 2nd round draft picks that ever even become a role player? It's minuscule. We have a developing big man in RWIII. We don't need another one.
And you act like Thompson is a guaranteed fit. Go look at last year Kanter signing on this board. Thompson can be just as bad as a fit, he very much likes to sit in the paint and clog things, his out side shot isn't consistent or his defense. He has to be "locked in" to be good on D. We can very easily see Thompson benched at end of games, I very much expect it. So how is he a big upgrade over Kanter when they play so much a like? Being more mobile isn't enough it's playing fit. Baynes would have been better. Its a bad move as Thompson is getting paid almost double and it costed a 1st to move Kanter.
Because Thompson is playable against most of the league. Kanter isn't. That's all there is to it. You can say they're basically the same all you want, but that simple fact makes Thompson much more valuable. Brad has a good track record of getting guys to buy into playing defense, so I'm not very concerned on that front.

This isn't even an argument.  Kanter hasn't ever been half the player TT is.  THOMPSON is a dbl dbl machine.  He's one of the best perimeter defensive bigs in the league.  Kanter is unplayable on the defensive end.  Thompson gives youb30 minutes a game.  Shuts down players.  Hustles and makes winning plays like smart.  Kanter is a liability and a 15mpg player.  I'll take TT 10 times out of 10 over Kanter. 

Re: Now DA should be on the hot seat
« Reply #132 on: November 22, 2020, 12:26:35 AM »

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And he just got Thompson.

Still wanna fire him?

Tristian Thompson averaged 12 and 10 on arguably the worst team in the NBA. He is 29, an absolute liability at the end of the game with his FT shooting.

So yes, I’m still on board with firing DA.

I don't want to demand a firing of Ainge.
But there isn't much reason to be thrilled with Thompson.
Clearly Turner is the younger and superior player, if he was on the table in a S-and-T with the Pacers we lost value.
What is worse is you traded a 1st and Kanter, your backup center who makes 5 million to now sign this guy to be a backup at 9 million. You lose offense for defense, lose a pick, plus pay more. The whole league is doing it the other way in paying offense and getting defenders cheap. DA should retire.

Thompson is a *lot* better than Kanter. At least as good a rebounder and garbage man around the basket, far more mobile.
For the money and the pick though? I'd much rather have Veron Carey Jr and Kanter than Thompson all day.
Really? You'd rather have 2 guys that might not even be in the rotation most of the year, than a impact guy who's gonna share starter minutes with Theis? I'm taking Thompson 10 times out if 10.
Thats the point Thompson isn't even good enough to get big minutes. So why not keep Kanter as a backup. Carey can develop into a younger better Thompson in a year or two that moves you closer to contention. Thompson doesn't move the needle towards that this year or next.
I'm just gonna have to disagree on that. He's definitely good enough to give us production, far more than Kanter and Carey ever will. You act as if it's a guarantee that Carey will even develop. Do you know the percentage of 2nd round draft picks that ever even become a role player? It's minuscule. We have a developing big man in RWIII. We don't need another one.
And you act like Thompson is a guaranteed fit. Go look at last year Kanter signing on this board. Thompson can be just as bad as a fit, he very much likes to sit in the paint and clog things, his out side shot isn't consistent or his defense. He has to be "locked in" to be good on D. We can very easily see Thompson benched at end of games, I very much expect it. So how is he a big upgrade over Kanter when they play so much a like? Being more mobile isn't enough it's playing fit. Baynes would have been better. Its a bad move as Thompson is getting paid almost double and it costed a 1st to move Kanter.
Because Thompson is playable against most of the league. Kanter isn't. That's all there is to it. You can say they're basically the same all you want, but that simple fact makes Thompson much more valuable. Brad has a good track record of getting guys to buy into playing defense, so I'm not very concerned on that front.
 
Not everyone buys into BS. We will see if Thompson brings it and fits or goes the way of Kanter.
I'd say a vast majority very much so bought into Brad's defense. In the past 5 years, we've been top 10 in defensive rating for 4 of those years. 3 of those years, we've been top 5. He even got Kyrie to play decent defense for a year, so I'm not worried. Even unmotivated, he's a flat out better defender than Kanter ever will be.
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Re: Now DA should be on the hot seat
« Reply #133 on: November 22, 2020, 12:27:37 AM »

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This must be the requisite "fire Danny" thread for this offseason. I remember it coming out just as Kyrie left, and then got bumped when we let Al walk for nothing because we didn't give him $110m. We seemed to do pretty well after both those guys left.  :angel:

Also, I would trust Danny's idea of Gordon's value vs Michael Jordan's idea of Gordon's value any day.

Yes each year the same stuff... LOL
At leats last year we lost people who really brought things (Al) or were the cornerstone of the team (Kirie). This year we just lost a guy who never brought anything in 3 years of PO (ok bec injury bla bla bla... but finnally it's the same he didn't brong anything when time was counting). Danny tried to save something (it's true recap he should trade him last deadline but I am not sure he knew GH would decline 34 millions !) and he failed... But then took two correct vet role players... I am OK with that.

Re: Now DA should be on the hot seat
« Reply #134 on: November 22, 2020, 12:57:03 AM »

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And he just got Thompson.

Still wanna fire him?

Tristian Thompson averaged 12 and 10 on arguably the worst team in the NBA. He is 29, an absolute liability at the end of the game with his FT shooting.

So yes, I’m still on board with firing DA.

I don't want to demand a firing of Ainge.
But there isn't much reason to be thrilled with Thompson.
Clearly Turner is the younger and superior player, if he was on the table in a S-and-T with the Pacers we lost value.
What is worse is you traded a 1st and Kanter, your backup center who makes 5 million to now sign this guy to be a backup at 9 million. You lose offense for defense, lose a pick, plus pay more. The whole league is doing it the other way in paying offense and getting defenders cheap. DA should retire.

Thompson is a *lot* better than Kanter. At least as good a rebounder and garbage man around the basket, far more mobile.
For the money and the pick though? I'd much rather have Veron Carey Jr and Kanter than Thompson all day.
Really? You'd rather have 2 guys that might not even be in the rotation most of the year, than a impact guy who's gonna share starter minutes with Theis? I'm taking Thompson 10 times out if 10.
Thats the point Thompson isn't even good enough to get big minutes. So why not keep Kanter as a backup. Carey can develop into a younger better Thompson in a year or two that moves you closer to contention. Thompson doesn't move the needle towards that this year or next.
I'm just gonna have to disagree on that. He's definitely good enough to give us production, far more than Kanter and Carey ever will. You act as if it's a guarantee that Carey will even develop. Do you know the percentage of 2nd round draft picks that ever even become a role player? It's minuscule. We have a developing big man in RWIII. We don't need another one.
And you act like Thompson is a guaranteed fit. Go look at last year Kanter signing on this board. Thompson can be just as bad as a fit, he very much likes to sit in the paint and clog things, his out side shot isn't consistent or his defense. He has to be "locked in" to be good on D. We can very easily see Thompson benched at end of games, I very much expect it. So how is he a big upgrade over Kanter when they play so much a like? Being more mobile isn't enough it's playing fit. Baynes would have been better. Its a bad move as Thompson is getting paid almost double and it costed a 1st to move Kanter.
Because Thompson is playable against most of the league. Kanter isn't. That's all there is to it. You can say they're basically the same all you want, but that simple fact makes Thompson much more valuable. Brad has a good track record of getting guys to buy into playing defense, so I'm not very concerned on that front.
 
Not everyone buys into BS. We will see if Thompson brings it and fits or goes the way of Kanter.
I'd say a vast majority very much so bought into Brad's defense. In the past 5 years, we've been top 10 in defensive rating for 4 of those years. 3 of those years, we've been top 5. He even got Kyrie to play decent defense for a year, so I'm not worried. Even unmotivated, he's a flat out better defender than Kanter ever will be.
Kanter had his games on defense against the likes of Embiid and Jokic where he was lock down. Why there were so few always made me wonder.... nah he got lucky those games lol